The Republican base are doe eyed zombies. They love leader, he's racist, xenophobic, authoritarian, an asshole, and most of all hurts the people they don't like; the perfect Republican. They don't care if they get hurt, just as long as he gets the Muslims, the Mexicans, the blacks, the liberals, and everyone that isn't them.
YES, BUT they through in the penalty that the people would RATHER take then the mandate itself. THAT killed the premium pool.
"If we want to cover Pre existing conditions"
I see where you are coming from but here is the questions.
1) True cost analysis, TOTAL premiums in, vs TOTAL expenses out. the likely fact is unfortunately there is NOT enough Premium to cover the Total Expenses out THAT now include Pre Existing conditions that likely carry 70% of the Actual cost burden.
2) A Competitive market or a HIGHLY regulated market. ONLY 2 real options
2a) Competative market, Mutiple levels, Let them set the cost. Some that want volume will charge cheaper, Some the emphasize on specialty care will charge higher. But letting the MARKET place set the price and premiums allowing those at many levels of cost to afford care.
2b) Regulated market. ALL hospitals and doctors have a flat rate, All specialty services are regulated by pricing So that we can set a Dollar expense so we can equally share the cost burden cross the tax payers.
WE cannot combine the above 2. If we want one or the other we have to commit both have their pro's and cons, but we cant do this mixed ACA crap the way it is its totally broken.
Their only hope is to rig another election. Better hope Russia is on their game.
1) True cost analysis, TOTAL premiums in, vs TOTAL expenses out. the likely fact is unfortunately there is NOT enough Premium to cover the Total Expenses out THAT now include Pre Existing conditions that likely carry 70% of the Actual cost burden.
cant go one serious legislative post without throwing out HIGHLY incendiary, hyperbole rhetoric. JEEZ
Why can we have one DAMN post that debates the ACTUAL legislation without someone saying all the above BULL CRAP....
Still stuck on the Russia thing? That's so yesterday. He won fair and square, plan for 6 more years.
The penalty helps subsidize the system. You can argue that the penalty isn't high enough to discourage people from opting to absorb the penalty instead of buying insurance.
Regarding all the other points, we know now that it is nine years after passage that Obamacare works -- even after Republicans have been gunning for it and trying to sabotage it for nine years. We also know that the premium increases have been lower than during the preceding period. We also know that tens of millions now are covered who weren't. Yup, it works.
Except marketplace insurers have been in the black for three years now. Beef up the premium tax credits a bit (since financial assistance has proven to be a much more effective inducement than the individual mandate) and throw in a little reinsurance to bring overall premium levels down, both of which are in the Dems' legislation today, and we're done.
How about when Democrats get in power they cancel red state welfare and see how you react to that? Republicans account for 1/3rd of GDP yet need 2/3rds of assistance. The reason they go after minorities and immigrants is because they need somebody below them.
Again another Hyperbole attack..... Red State, Blue State, black, white orange. ALL BENEFIT from welfare programs. Its abuse and mismanagement.
Why attack ONE side rather than ADDRESSING the WHOLE programs and debating the legislation LIKE MOST ARE. ONLY you choose throw our words like racist, homophobic, etc etc. ,SO SAD..... no dog in the fight so just resort to slurs and personal attacks....
Trump administration now says entire Affordable Care Act should be struck down - CNNPolitics
The Trump administration on Monday said the entire Affordable Care Act should be struck down, in a dramatic reversal.
In a filing with a federal appeals court, the Justice Department said it agreed with the ruling of a federal judge in Texas that invalidated the Obama-era health care law.
In a letter Monday night, the administration said "it is not urging that any portion of the district court's judgment be reversed."
"The Department of Justice has determined that the district court's comprehensive opinion came to the correct conclusion and will support it on appeal," said Kerri Kupec, spokesperson for the Justice Department.
It's a major shift for the Justice Department from when Jeff Sessions was attorney general. At the time, the administration argued that the community rating rule and the guaranteed issue requirement -- protections for people with pre-existing conditions -- could not be defended but the rest of the law could stand.
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Trump’s Justice Department notified a federal appeals court in New Orleans late Monday it would asking judges to toss out the entire ACA which is going to put healthcare for millions of Americans in jeopardy. Previous Republican attempts to repeal Obamacare triggered a backlash that propelled Democrats back into the majority of the House in the last election. Months ago, when people were polled about what their main concerns are, health care was their number one concern. Undoing everything Barack Obama did was Trump's first objective. Now that the Mueller investigation is over, he can now focus on repealing Obamacare. What's next, rollbacks in Medicare?
Russia and the FBI helped. Without gerrymandering and the electoral college Republicans would lose all power in the U.S. and never get it back.
You think Trump wants to end Obamacare because he's going to fix healthcare? LMAO... sucker born every day. I guess you'd have to be to be a Republican. Still waiting for that trickle down economics to land you your range rover and boat?
After Putin blows him off. A rebound dictator.
Trump administration now says entire Affordable Care Act should be struck down - CNNPolitics
The Trump administration on Monday said the entire Affordable Care Act should be struck down, in a dramatic reversal.
In a filing with a federal appeals court, the Justice Department said it agreed with the ruling of a federal judge in Texas that invalidated the Obama-era health care law.
In a letter Monday night, the administration said "it is not urging that any portion of the district court's judgment be reversed."
"The Department of Justice has determined that the district court's comprehensive opinion came to the correct conclusion and will support it on appeal," said Kerri Kupec, spokesperson for the Justice Department.
It's a major shift for the Justice Department from when Jeff Sessions was attorney general. At the time, the administration argued that the community rating rule and the guaranteed issue requirement -- protections for people with pre-existing conditions -- could not be defended but the rest of the law could stand.
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Trump’s Justice Department notified a federal appeals court in New Orleans late Monday it would asking judges to toss out the entire ACA which is going to put healthcare for millions of Americans in jeopardy. Previous Republican attempts to repeal Obamacare triggered a backlash that propelled Democrats back into the majority of the House in the last election. Months ago, when people were polled about what their main concerns are, health care was their number one concern. Undoing everything Barack Obama did was Trump's first objective. Now that the Mueller investigation is over, he can now focus on repealing Obamacare. What's next, rollbacks in Medicare?
Supreme Court already ruled
1) the composition of the court changed.
2) the Trump Admin stated it won't defend the ACA in court.
It's actually a different issue. From the Times:The Supreme Court aren't going to change their own ruling,for political reasons
I read the administration's action as the kid who kills his parents and then argues to the court that it should be lenient because he's an orphan. The GOP weakened the ACA and now is arguing it should be overturned because they weakened the law.The administration staked out its new position in a lawsuit that was filed by Republican attorneys general in Texas and other states after Congress failed in 2017 to repeal the Affordable Care Act, but later reduced the law’s tax penalty for people who do not have insurance to zero. The suit contended that the absence of the real tax penalty rendered the law’s “individual mandate” — the requirement that most Americans have insurance — unconstitutional.
Without a requirement to purchase insurance, they argued, the law could not then insist that insurance companies cover pre-existing medical conditions and a suite of other “essential health benefits,” such as maternity care and prescription drugs.
The Republican base are doe eyed zombies. They love leader, he's racist, xenophobic, authoritarian, an asshole, and most of all hurts the people they don't like; the perfect Republican. They don't care if they get hurt, just as long as he gets the Muslims, the Mexicans, the blacks, the liberals, and everyone that isn't them.
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