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Trump’s big speech won’t matter

jdog21 said:
The average immigrant consumed $6 more in cash assistance, $7 more in SNAP benefits, and $98 more in Medicaid than the average native did.
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link?
 
What's great is that so many of his claims have already been called into question...and his lies also called out.

So a) his handlers will be writing as much of his speech as possible (knowing he'll ignore what he wants) & praying and b) he'll be feeling the pressure when he spouts off-script to not make false claims and exaggerations and outright lies. He knows the level of scrutiny on every word will be high.

And he knows that Pelosi and Shumer can challenge anything he says immediately after (after fact-checking and all!)

Another wind storm here today, I hope I dont lose power before it's televised. I haz popcorn.
 
Rogue Valley said:
... The Democrats have been granted equal airtime tonight to rebut Trump and debunk his on-air lies and disinformation.
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Whatever Trump has to say, I hope he ends his speech with "I've got a pen, and I've got a phone."
 
Barnacle said:
Whatever Trump has to say, I hope he ends his speech with "I've got a pen, and I've got a phone."
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Everybody knows Trump has a phone!
 
Barnacle said:
Whatever Trump has to say, I hope he ends his speech with "I've got a pen, and I've got a phone."
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I do too, it will prove that he and those that still support him are hypocrites AND liars. :lamo
 
Barnacle said:
Whatever Trump has to say, I hope he ends his speech with "I've got a pen, and I've got a phone."
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But I don't have a clue and the majority of America realizes it.
 
Praxas said:
You realize they are talking about LEGAL immigrants right and children of illegals. You are making conclusions based on a false premise.
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Do you have any data that separates out legal immigrants from illegal aliens and their costs to our society, id be happy to look at them. But if you don't, simply dismissing other studies because you don't like them lumping immigrants into one basket, like that throws out an entire argument is disingenuous. Or is all you have conjecture?
 
jdog21 said:
Do you have any data that separates out legal immigrants from illegal aliens and their costs to our society, id be happy to look at them. But if you don't, simply dismissing other studies because you don't like them lumping immigrants into one basket, like that throws out an entire argument is disingenuous. Or is all you have conjecture?
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You're the one making the claims. Sorry but if you're lumping illegal and legal immigrants together than you aren't getting an accurate picture of illegal immigration. That's a fact.
 
Praxas said:
You're the one making the claims. Sorry but if you're lumping illegal and legal immigrants together than you aren't getting an accurate picture of illegal immigration. That's a fact.
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Those in the noncitizen categories are a cost on tax payers that don't go to American citizens and can be controlled better for the benefit of American citizens
 
jdog21 said:
Those in the noncitizen categories are a cost on tax payers that don't go to American citizens and can be controlled better for the benefit of American citizens
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Noncitizens could be folks here under LEGAL work permits, i.e. NOT ILLEGAL.
 
Praxas said:
That's still lumping illegal and legal immigrants so there is no way to get an accurate picture of illegal immigration costs.
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Praxas said:
Noncitizens could be folks here under LEGAL work permits, i.e. NOT ILLEGAL.
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The government wont list illegal aliens as a separate statistical item (thanks democrats) So how is that my fault. Problem is you still cant refute that they cost money.
 
jdog21 said:
The government wont list illegal aliens as a separate statistical item (thanks democrats) So how is that my fault. Problem is you still cant refute that they cost money.
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You can’t say how much illegals cost and that is fact. It’s your fault because you made a claim about illegals you can’t back up.
 
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