Trump’s Big Lie Devoured the G.O.P. and Now Eyes Our Democracy

[Rawley]

You mean like Trump crushed Biden in 2020?

Nope

Where do you get your premonitions from? Oh, that's right, ****er Carlson.

Rachel's Vagina. It's never wrong.

 

[mike2810]

Nope

Meaningless? 75 million people voted for the guy.

Would you like affidavits from all 75 million of us? What are you looking for?

hard to do when the President is constantly calling us racists and white supremacists.



I think you've found the party where you belong.

and 81 million voted for Biden.

What I am looking for is for people to accept the outcome of the 2020 election. There is more important issues to deal with.

I don't recall Biden calling all Republicans races or white supremacists. Do you have a quote from Biden that makes you believe he was calling you a racist?

 

[Pound4abrown]

Nope

Meaningless? 75 million people voted for the guy.

Would you like affidavits from all 75 million of us? What are you looking for?

hard to do when the President is constantly calling us racists and white supremacists.



I think you've found the party where you belong.

You clearly don't understand how voting works, regardless of how many people voted for the loser, he is still the loser.

 

[Jetboogieman]

That is the type of complete bull**** that can only emanate from a mind trapped so deep within a liberal bubble that no light or reason can penetrate.

You don't care, that's the real reason you don't want to address it.

Everything is a joke to you, Trumps behavior, his undermining of Democracy, the false belief that millions of Americans have that the election was stolen, the danger of COVID and the people who have died.

All a giant opportunity to troll and laugh and have fun at the expense of the good of your country and the lives of your fellow citizens.

 

[Grand Mal]

You should bet your house on that. Do you think it's a coincidence that the Democrats are frantically scrambling to get every left wing loon project passed now, immediately? They know they are going to lose all power in the Congress.

Good politics. Get the radical stuff done first and present moderate when the election comes. I see it here every time the NDP defeat the Liberals or the Conservatives. Trump screwed up that principle when he did diddly-squat with his House and Senate majority's. For you to say the Dems will lose you must be thinking the Republicans can get their shit together in the next year and a half. Who do you think will lead them into midterms? They don't even know that yet and the clock is ticking.

 

[bomberfox]

It really is this simple.

All "real" Americans need to fight the threat by all means at our disposal.
I know I will not do business with anyone who is a Trumpist.

We have more means than that

 

[bomberfox]

You don't care, that's the real reason you don't want to address it.

Everything is a joke to you, Trumps behavior, his undermining of Democracy, the false belief that millions of Americans have that the election was stolen, the danger of COVID and the people who have died.

All a giant opportunity to troll and laugh and have fun at the expense of the good of your country and the lives of your fellow citizens.

Its honestly worse than childish

 

[lacesaver]

Trump lost his reelection. Of course, he doesn't blame himself. Of course, he blames the GOP, and, of course, being it is his nature, Trump is seeking revenge.

It is entirely possible that Trump is out to destroy the Republican Party. Contrary to all the rhetoric from Fox and Republicans, Trump's chances of being elected to office are slim and none. By seeking revenge, he has nothing to lose.

Vladimir Putin helped Trump win the Presidency in 2016. Putin tried to help Trump again in 2020, but to no avail. Trump lost.

According to Kevin McCarthy and Steve Scalise, the number one and number two Republicans in the House, the defeated Donald Trump is the leader of the Republican Party. The vast majority of Republicans agree with them.

Trump insists to this day -- contrary to the judgement of 60 court cases plus the Supreme Court, contrary to countless audits and investigations throughout the land, all of which found nothing to support voter fraud -- that voter fraud took place in the Presidential election.

However, all those Republicans who were elected on the same ballot are okay. Trump doesn't bother with the inconsistency. Why should he? His uninformed, intelligence challenged cult believes everything he says. Why bother with reality?

Trump insists that the American Presidential election on November 3, 2020, was steeped in voter fraud, and he began making that claim months before the election.

'We can't have an election stolen like this,' Trump said.

By the strangest of circumstances, the communist dictator of Russia is saying the very same thing.

The Insider reports, "Putin weaponized Trump's conspiracy theories about the election to denigrate the US's support of free and fair elections around the globe.

"Since Trump lost the election, he and his loyalists have made baseless claims of widespread voter fraud and election-rigging, and they've concocted a vast conspiracy in which the Democratic Party worked with "big tech" and "big media" to hand Biden the election."

A former President of the United States and the leader of the Republican Party is making the same argument about American elections as is the communist dictator of Russia. To make matters worse, the vast majority of Republicans, including McCarthy and Scalise, are too naive, too gullible, and too dense to understand the reality of the damage they are doing to their own party.

Do you feel better, you got that all out?

 

[Fletch]

You don't care, that's the real reason you don't want to address it.

Everything is a joke to you, Trumps behavior, his undermining of Democracy, the false belief that millions of Americans have that the election was stolen, the danger of COVID and the people who have died.

All a giant opportunity to troll and laugh and have fun at the expense of the good of your country and the lives of your fellow citizens.

I did address it. I rejected your position as meaningless, ignorant, hyper-partisan nonsense. What more can I say than that?

 

[j brown's body]

Are you going to blame the "Big Lie" when the GOP crushes you in 2022?

Like Putin?

Republicans are running for office on the platform of overturning elections. Democracy really is under seige.

 

[j brown's body]

Someone still obsessed with Trump. And anti-Semitic Thomas Friedman too.

Its not about Trump. Its about democracy. Republicans oppose it.

 

[noonereal]

Do you generally ask people their political values when doing business?

Never.
If they don't advertise they support the animal know as Trump, I have no way of knowing.

The only question I ask is, "are you vaccinated?"

 

[HangLow]

Trump lost his reelection. Of course, he doesn't blame himself. Of course, he blames the GOP, and, of course, being it is his nature, Trump is seeking revenge.

It is entirely possible that Trump is out to destroy the Republican Party. Contrary to all the rhetoric from Fox and Republicans, Trump's chances of being elected to office are slim and none. By seeking revenge, he has nothing to lose.

Vladimir Putin helped Trump win the Presidency in 2016. Putin tried to help Trump again in 2020, but to no avail. Trump lost.

According to Kevin McCarthy and Steve Scalise, the number one and number two Republicans in the House, the defeated Donald Trump is the leader of the Republican Party. The vast majority of Republicans agree with them.

Trump insists to this day -- contrary to the judgement of 60 court cases plus the Supreme Court, contrary to countless audits and investigations throughout the land, all of which found nothing to support voter fraud -- that voter fraud took place in the Presidential election.

However, all those Republicans who were elected on the same ballot are okay. Trump doesn't bother with the inconsistency. Why should he? His uninformed, intelligence challenged cult believes everything he says. Why bother with reality?

Trump insists that the American Presidential election on November 3, 2020, was steeped in voter fraud, and he began making that claim months before the election.

'We can't have an election stolen like this,' Trump said.

By the strangest of circumstances, the communist dictator of Russia is saying the very same thing.

The Insider reports, "Putin weaponized Trump's conspiracy theories about the election to denigrate the US's support of free and fair elections around the globe.

"Since Trump lost the election, he and his loyalists have made baseless claims of widespread voter fraud and election-rigging, and they've concocted a vast conspiracy in which the Democratic Party worked with "big tech" and "big media" to hand Biden the election."

A former President of the United States and the leader of the Republican Party is making the same argument about American elections as is the communist dictator of Russia. To make matters worse, the vast majority of Republicans, including McCarthy and Scalise, are too naive, too gullible, and too dense to understand the reality of the damage they are doing to their own party.

A former President of the United States and the leader of the Republican Party is making the same argument about American elections as is the communist dictator of Russia.

To make matters worse, the vast majority of Republicans, including McCarthy and Scalise, are too naive, too gullible, and too dense to understand the reality of the damage they are doing to their own party.

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[Rawley]

and 81 million voted for Biden.

What I am looking for is for people to accept the outcome of the 2020 election. There is more important issues to deal with.

I don't recall Biden calling all Republicans races or white supremacists. Do you have a quote from Biden that makes you believe he was calling you a racist?

Sure., We support the changes in GA and other states' voting laws that he keeps calling "Jim Crow" laws. SO, by definition we are racists and White Supremacists. Taking a guess, at least 70 million of us support these laws, and I'd bet that at least 50 million DEms have no problem with them (if they are being honest).

 

[Rawley]

You clearly don't understand how voting works, regardless of how many people voted for the loser, he is still the loser.

Figure that one out all by yourself? Kudos.

 

[Rawley]

Good politics. Get the radical stuff done first and present moderate when the election comes. I see it here every time the NDP defeat the Liberals or the Conservatives. Trump screwed up that principle when he did diddly-squat with his House and Senate majority's. For you to say the Dems will lose you must be thinking the Republicans can get their shit together in the next year and a half. Who do you think will lead them into midterms? They don't even know that yet and the clock is ticking.

Since you were clearly not following US politics back then., Do some homework on the 2010 midterm elections. Largest swing in the house in 70 years. And that was off of one single issue. DEms have handed Repubs 15 issues already and it's only been three months.

Crushed.

 

[Grand Mal]

Since you were clearly not following US politics back then., Do some homework on the 2010 midterm elections. Largest swing in the house in 70 years. And that was off of one single issue. DEms have handed Repubs 15 issues already and it's only been three months.

Crushed.

You got your work cut out for you. Biden's approval rating is not bad, up there in Bill Clinton- George HW Bush territory, despite your 15 issues. And there's really only one issue. One and a half- Covid and the border. If the Republicans try to make Hunter an issue they'll get a great reaction from those who already hate Joe but they risk losing moderates.
Who will lead the party?

 

[Rawley]

You got your work cut out for you. Biden's approval rating is not bad, up there in Bill Clinton- George HW Bush territory, despite your 15 issues.

and Obama's was 70% in the months after his election. Your point?

And there's really only one issue. One and a half- Covid and the border. If the Republicans try to make Hunter an issue they'll get a great reaction from those who already hate Joe but they risk losing moderates.
Who will lead the party?

Who was leading the party when they gained 63 seats in the House in 2010? Not sure why you are harping on this.

 

[Grand Mal]

and Obama's was 70% in the months after his election. Your point?


Who was leading the party when they gained 63 seats in the House in 2010? Not sure why you are harping on this.

My point was all those guys won second terms. And I'm not harping, I'm asking your opinion. The Republican Party is divided and will have to pull itself together. Will they follow the lead of a Trump loyalist like Cruz or go with the McConnell camp, who Trump called a dumb son of a bitch?

 

[Rawley]

My point was all those guys won second terms.

Well, we were talking about the midterm election. And the Democrats got creamed in 2010 because of the issues handed to them by the Democrats. Exact same thing is happening now. DEmocrats are going to be crushed in the midterms.

And I'm not harping, I'm asking your opinion.

About an irrelevant point. THe minority party does not need "a leader" to crush the majority party in the midterms - again see the 2010 midterms.

The Republican Party is divided and will have to pull itself together. Will they follow the lead of a Trump loyalist like Cruz or go with the McConnell camp, who Trump called a dumb son of a bitch?

If you you want to look at reality, you need to stop listening to the talking heads in the loon media. THe Republican Party is not divided whatsoever. Fourth time - the Dems are handing the REpubs the issues. Do you think a Repub voter is going to vote Dem or sit out the midterm election because some other Repub likes Trump or McConnelL or Cruz or Desantis? Is that what they are telling you? Does that make sense to you?

 

[mike2810]

Sure., We support the changes in GA and other states' voting laws that he keeps calling "Jim Crow" laws. SO, by definition we are racists and White Supremacists. Taking a guess, at least 70 million of us support these laws, and I'd bet that at least 50 million DEms have no problem with them (if they are being honest).

I have read that spin regarding Biden. Just like I have read the spin from republican supporters about Dems saying they are nothing more than BLM /Antifa supporters and want a socialist government.

In Arizona some Republicans are wanting to change the time a person has to correct a ballot mailed without a signature. I have no issue with mail in ballots needing a signature that can be verified the person is a registered voter. Here is the rub. Up in the Navajo Nation there are legal voters who will have a hard time with the meeting the time frame do to the remoteness of their location. I for one do not see the need to shorten the timeframe. The current law has worked well for years.

We should always look for improvements to our election process.

I for one do not see how Trump is helping when he continues to spin his loss.