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And Jesus wasn't talking about governmental entities anyway; the "you" to whom He refers is the individual and that one individual's decision to give alms, clothe the poor, visit the sick, etc.
but he was talking about loving our neighbors, wasn't He? Now the government is hating on that.And Jesus wasn't talking about governmental entities anyway; the "you" to whom He refers is the individual and that one individual's decision to give alms, clothe the poor, visit the sick, etc.
People always seem to have this idea that Christ shares their ideology.lol...good one...
Yes, we knew that you fine Trump cukt Christians would find ways to “justify” the pure hatefulness involved in the programs of Trump and Stephen Miller and Mike Johnson and the Congressional Republicans to deprive “the least of these” of government assistance so that Trump can give himself and his wealthy elite sponsors her another huge and unneeded tax cut. This is what we expected all along. Jesus weeps.
And, again, you have yet to show that anything that I said in the OP is incorrect. Why are you avoiding doing so?
Lees, i am fine with watsup trying to exposit scripture the best way he can.
our Motive here should be to encourage ALL on this forum to look at what God says and follow it. i don't care if watsup doesn't believe, at least he understands some rudiments of what God expects from him and us.
this latest from watsup is AMAZING; give an Atheist a bible and let him preach. pretty soooon he will believe and know God.
i think God is working inside of him to be able to write something like this, so thank you watsup, keep preaching whether you believe or not.
in the End, all these atheists and christians should come to the Historic faith as God intended.
how?
the way is narrow the Leads to Eternal Life and few find it Jesus said. just because you are a christian doesn't mean you will see heaven, many are fooled by some declaration of godliness but inside we have fallen away from the faith.
so..........all of us NEEED to find the faith on a daily basis. all means all. and i hope to see you Lee and watsup on streets of Gold with a great sigh of relief and joy.
promise me that. .........k ?
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16 And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:(Acts 16:16-18) Christians don't need the approval or disapproval of non-believers.
6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.(Matt. 4:6) Satan knows the Scripture also, and will quote it to you all day long if you listen.
Lees
Agreed...and looking in the mirror, asking, "How can I apply what he said in my life?" before throwing his teachings on someone else...People always seem to have this idea that Christ shares their ideology.
As taken from the New Testament, Christ had his own ideology and expects his followers to share it. Not the other way around. If you are a Christian, an actual one, you can't be trying to finesse what he said. What he said was very plain and straightforward. Either you can cleave to it or you cannot. Most cannot.
I'm not an atheist, but I am not really much of a Christian. MML&J and Acts I & II had all kinds of interesting things to say and really, really good principles.
It would probably benefit Christians to spend more time on MML&J and a little less time deciding what Jesus really meant.
Show us where Jesus said that. What I remember Jesus saying was render unto Caesar what is Caesar's.
I have no objection to helping those who genuinely need it.Back to treating everyone else as you want to be treated - and to taking care of those in need: What objections do you have against these sentiments?
People always seem to have this idea that Christ shares their ideology.
As taken from the New Testament, Christ had his own ideology and expects his followers to share it. Not the other way around. If you are a Christian, an actual one, you can't be trying to finesse what he said. What he said was very plain and straightforward. Either you can cleave to it or you cannot. Most cannot.
I'm not an atheist, but I am not really much of a Christian. MML&J and Acts I & II had all kinds of interesting things to say and really, really good principles.
It would probably benefit Christians to spend more time on MML&J and a little less time deciding what Jesus really meant.
Here it is:
Matthew 25:40-45
New International Version
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of THE LEAST OF THESE, you did not do for me.’
Jesus fed the masses when they ran out of food. Trump is shutting down programs that help to feed those on the lower economic scale. People are now starving in Sudan and elsewhere because Trump shut down selected USAID programs. His buddy Netanyahu is purposely starving to death thousands upon thousands of Palestinian children, and Trump is giving tacit approval by looking the other way.
Jesus healed the sick. Trump is shutting down Medicare programs that help economically deprived adults and children to get proper medical care.
Jesus preached an earthly gospel of empathy and compassion towards others. Trump clearly finds such instances to be signs of weakness, he has no use for them, his right-hand man Stephen Miller comes out and says such right out loud, and his “Christian” fundamentalist followers follow along like lemmings and actually find ways to justify such cruelty, as we will soon see. Fact is, it is quite clear that Trump pretty much can’t stand “the least of these” and doesn’t want to be around them or have anything to do with them. Instead, he cuts as many programs designed to help them as he can in order to provide huge tax cuts for himself and his wealthy elite buddies. More pure corruption.
Jesus would not recognize this hateful “Christian” Trumpcult as followers of his message of love and hope. Jesus would harshly criticize them for their utter hypocrisy just as he did with the Pharisees.
The Trump cult has hijacked patriotism and turned it into hateful xenophobia, and has now hijacked religion and turned it into nothing more than a political action committee that is about as far from Jesus-based Christianity as possible.
(Acts 16:16-18) Christians don't need the approval or disapproval of non-believers.
(Matt. 4:6) Satan knows the Scripture also, and will quote it to you all day long if you listen.
I disagree with your statement that 'just because you are a christian doesn't mean you will see heaven'.
Lees
this latest from watsup is AMAZING; give an Atheist a bible and let him preach.
Which begs the question, is it an attitude of love to use words such as MAGAt, "Dear Leader", tRump, Nazis, Fascists, basket of deplorables, Trumpies, Morons, Uneducated, Racists, Trumpies, garbage, etc. to describe those with opinions that differ from yours?all we need to do is to preach the truth in an attitude of love
Yes, we knew that you fine Trump cukt Christians would find ways to “justify” the pure hatefulness involved in the programs of Trump and Stephen Miller and Mike Johnson and the Congressional Republicans to deprive “the least of these” of government assistance so that Trump can give himself and his wealthy elite sponsors her another huge and unneeded tax cut. This is what we expected all along. Jesus weeps.
Which begs the question, is it an attitude of love to use words such as MAGAt, "Dear Leader", tRump, Nazis, Fascists, basket of deplorables, Trumpies, Morons, Uneducated, Racists, Trumpies, garbage, etc. to describe those with opinions that differ from yours?
You're not speaking out of concern for Jesus' teachings.
You are using Jesus Christ to make Trump-supporting Christians feel guilty.
Your concern is to uphold your own political views.
What I said has nothing to do with Trump.
It had to do with your wrong use of Scripture, and you who don't believe a word of it anyway but then posture yourself as some expositor of Scripture. Oxymoron.
Lees
I do not by any means approve of everything Trump does or says. And actually, I am more critical of him on some other (more conservative) forums that I am on. But since this forum is about 80% Democrat, I usually find myself defending various positions of his. Because 80% of the forum is already dumping on him plenty. Certainly no earthly political candidate is going to come anywhere near perfection. Still, overall, and so far, I find his policies preferable to the left's. You are either going to pick a side, or you're going to stand out and not vote.however forn, you may wanna take a Good Look on what the Orange Monarch and his side kicks are up to. some of them are doing Excellent works and i commend them, RFK comes to mind.
I do not by any means approve of everything Trump does or says. And actually, I am more critical of him on some other (more conservative) forums that I am on. But since this forum is about 80% Democrat, I usually find myself defending various positions of his. Because 80% of the forum is already dumping on him plenty. Certainly no earthly political candidate is going to come anywhere near perfection. Still, overall, and so far, I find his policies preferable to the left's. You are either going to pick a side, or you're going to stand out and not vote.
What are your thoughts about October 7? Hamas started this particular round of fighting. Trump gave Hamas a deadline to release the hostages. Hamas ignored that deadline, so Trump turned them over to Netanyahu to deal with. A deadline with no consequences is no deadline at all.What are your thoughts about Netanyahu starving to death Palestinian children while Trump carefully looks the other way and does what he feels is more important, namely playing golf every weekend.
What are your thoughts about October 7? Hamas started this particular round of fighting. Trump gave Hamas a deadline to release the hostages. Hamas ignored that deadline, so Trump turned them over to Netanyahu to deal with. A deadline with no consequences is no deadline at all.
You're not speaking out of concern for Jesus' teachings.
You are using Jesus Christ to make Trump-supporting Christians feel guilty.
What are your thoughts about Netanyahu starving to death Palestinian children while Trump carefully looks the other way and does what he feels is more important, namely playing golf every weekend.
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