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True tales of self defense.

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Many of those are police shootings, several are headed to trial on the flimsiness of the claim of "self defense". Your desperation is noted though.
Yet still self defense.....if you disagree, feel free to start your own thread; this is not the place for it.
 
Yet still self defense.....if you disagree, feel free to start your own thread; this is not the place for it.
Oh, no dissenting opinions allowed?

How very fascist of you.

Actual defensive gun use is vanishingly rare. The fact that that you had to include extremely weak cases as well as police line of duty stuff is proof.
 
Oh, no dissenting opinions allowed?

How very fascist of you.

Actual defensive gun use is vanishingly rare. The fact that that you had to include extremely weak cases as well as police line of duty stuff is proof.
Allowed in a thread of your making.
 
We have another one of these threads around the corner here. Come over and we can do it there. This thread is redundant. Turtledude isn’t even here. What a rip.
 
We have another one of these threads around the corner here. Come over and we can do it there. This thread is redundant. Turtledude isn’t even here. What a rip.
Then make a thread of your own outlining that fact.
 
Then make a thread of your own outlining that fact.
No no, I’ve not made myself clear. There is ALREADY a thread just like this. Maybe 7-10 days old and a couple hundred pages where I systematically demolish the gunner’s arguments. I’d help you here, but you’ve already said there “will be NO systematic demolition of this thread!”
 
No no, I’ve not made myself clear. There is ALREADY a thread just like this. Maybe 7-10 days old and a couple hundred pages where I systematically demolish the gunner’s arguments. I’d help you here, but you’ve already said there “will be NO systematic demolition derailment of this thread!”
We understand on another.
Go make your own thread.
 
We understand on another.
Go make your own thread.
Ok yes, because I was only going to say one thing, and really you can disregard what I say because I’m a socialist really, so it won’t derail your thread. I was going to say people who don’t want guns, don’t want people killed by them, or to live in a society profuse with them, and so self defense is a self perpetuating myth to us. An ugly dragon eating it’s own tail.

Anyway, what I mean is, you’re welcome (for boosting your thread). The pro’s will be by soon. Got some heavy hitters here.

Namaste
 
Ok yes, because I was only going to say one thing, and really you can disregard what I say because I’m a socialist really, so it won’t derail your thread. I was going to say people who don’t want guns, don’t want people killed by them, or to live in a society profuse with them, and so self defense is a self perpetuating myth to us. An ugly dragon eating it’s own tail.

Anyway, what I mean is, you’re welcome (for boosting your thread). The pro’s will be by soon. Got some heavy hitters here.

Namaste
WTF does Socialism has to do with the inherent right to self defense? :rolleyes:
 
Oh, no dissenting opinions allowed?

How very fascist of you.

Actual defensive gun use is vanishingly rare. The fact that that you had to include extremely weak cases as well as police line of duty stuff is proof.

"Vanishingly rare?" Bum posts stories on it every week. And I'm sure that it meant everything (their lives) to those individuals and their families. No matter how often or not, it's ALL that matters to them in that instant. What justification do you see in denying people that choice?

It is a good thing that often, the gun introduction is enough to ending the confrontation, without having to fire.

Last spring, in a nice neighborhood in Seattle, a man with an ax climbed up to an apartment balcony and entered thru the glass doors. The husband went and got his handgun and drove the man from the apt. He didnt have to fire, but he was able to immediately end that potentially deadly encounter.​
Less fortunate, also in a decent (touristy) area of Seattle, a couple was walking along and a random guy started stabbing the woman. Her boyfriend tried to defend her...was also stabbed...and died. She was stabbed 11 times and lived. If the boyfriend had had a gun, he could probably have saved her.​

I think in both cases, definitely the latter, the men were mentally ill. The mentally ill are abusing and killing people more and more it seems. They've been esp. triggered, it seems, against Asian-Americans. Many more incidents in the last 2 yrs. So criminal or mentally ill...there doesnt seem to be any doubt that there are definitely real risks, even in public, even in good neighborhoods.
 
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