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But Russia.......
I know ... (sigh).
I wonder how many liberals have stopped buying Russian caviar? (grin)
But Russia.......
"The company ... had made "significant restructuring and corporate governance changes" to allow them to meet the criteria to be delisted within the next 30 days.
It explicitly said Deripaska will remain on the sanctions list and his property would remain blocked as required under law.
"Treasury sanctioned these companies because of their ownership and control by sanctioned Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, not for the conduct of the companies themselves," said Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin in a statement. "These companies have committed to significantly diminish Deripaska's ownership and sever his control." ..."
Good grief.
Some people can't even comprehend what they read ...
But that's paper shuffling. Putin controls and profits from this entity, via his oligarchs. And he just got a ('nother) pass from the Trump administration."The company ... had made "significant restructuring and corporate governance changes" to allow them to meet the criteria to be delisted within the next 30 days.
It explicitly said Deripaska will remain on the sanctions list and his property would remain blocked as required under law.
"Treasury sanctioned these companies because of their ownership and control by sanctioned Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, not for the conduct of the companies themselves," said Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin in a statement. "These companies have committed to significantly diminish Deripaska's ownership and sever his control." ..."
Good grief.
Some people can't even comprehend what they read ...
Can you imagine if he would have prevailed in the midterms? With his egotistical authoritarian narcissism? My God. I doubt any of us could even imagine.And as time goes on more, we realize that Trump not only dosn't have to answer us, but even if it it is quid pro quo out in the open...it may be legal. And even if it's NOT legal, it may be impossible to prove.
I'm just as mad at our powerlessness to address our concerns, as I am that he's doing what he does I suppose.
It's like Ken Starr making the book rounds this week, talking about how Impeachment is such a terrible thing to drag the country through. I'm wondering if he's been around the last 2 years, I feel this is 100x worse than the Clinton impeachment, how about you? Impeachment would be like a vacation compared to the criminal/traitor/selling the nation out every other day, and lying about it to the public, reality TV.
Did the company comply with everything needed to in order to get sanctions lifted? Yes or no?
Can you imagine if he would have prevailed in the midterms? With his egotistical authoritarian narcissism? My God. I doubt any of us could even imagine.
Indeed. He came out today and publicly expressed his pleasure at Trump's actions, referring to the President as "Donald"!And on the same day trump randomly announced our withdrawal from syria. What a remarkable coincidence. Putin has to be ecstatic.
Indeed. He came out today and publicly expressed his pleasure at Trump's actions, referring to the President as "Donald"!
Oh stop. go read some posts and like them, at least then your posts might look slightly more credible instead of looking like a bought and paid for Trump defender.The sanctions the thread is fretting about were IMPOSED by the Trump admin. As were the individual ones against Derpiska which are NOT being removed.
The Senate on Thursday approved sweeping sanctions against Russia, forcing President Trump to decide whether to accept a tougher line against Moscow or issue a politically explosive veto amid investigations into ties between his presidential campaign and Russian officials.
Oh, isn't this slick? Bloomberg's article had info CNN's article didn't:So Deripaska lowered his “stake.” How do you think he did that? “Here, Vlad, can you do me a solid and hold some of my ownership stake in my company so we can get sanctions reduced?”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ove-sanctions-on-deripaska-s-rusal-in-30-days
“These companies have committed to significantly diminish Deripaska’s ownership and sever his control,” Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said in the statement. “The companies will be subject to ongoing compliance and will face severe consequences if they fail to comply.”
“Mnuchin added that Treasury “maintains the ability under the terms of the agreement to have unprecedented levels of transparency into operations.”
Because transparency is what Russia is all about.........
VTB Bank or another entity approved by the Treasury Department will take ownership of a block of shares in EN+ as collateral for previous obligations companies controlled by the billionaire have to the bank.
Oh stop. go read some posts and like them, at least then your posts might look slightly more credible instead of looking like a bought and paid for Trump defender.
Russians sanctions have been opposed by Trump since his campaign, remember when that Russian spy was the first one to ask him about Russian sanctions and he said they wouldn't be necessary?
Congress however, tied his hands, and pushed for sanctions with enough support that Trump had little choice. But he still attacked it verbally...unconstitutional, flawed, etc., etc.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/27/us/politics/senate-russia-sanctions-trump.html?module=inline
Oh, isn't this slick? Bloomberg's article had info CNN's article didn't:
VTB is the Russian state-owned bank Felix Slater lined-up for Trump's financing of the Russia Trump Tower's project, that Trump was negotiating during the election, as was uncovered by Mueller and ratified by Micheal Cohen.
So, I see two possible take-aways here:
1] Trump just sold-out intentionally
or,
2] Trump sold-out unintentionally
Either way, Putin just got a big Christmas present.
For one, those sanctions were impressed under Congressional order. Secondly, Deripaska is not the recipient of Trump's largess here. He is merely the conduit. Putin is the recipient. Via VTB Bank and other oligarchs.The sanctions the thread is fretting about were IMPOSED by the Trump admin.
As were the individual ones against Derpiska which are NOT being removed.
Yeah-- he opposed the sanctions imposed by the Obama Admininistration after the election. He has imposed others since being inagurated-- such as the one this thread is about.
Hm. Shades of Trump!Deripaska has an eligible charity as well;
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ecipients-are-said-to-include-his-own-charity
For one, those sanctions were impressed under Congressional order. Secondly, Deripaska is not the recipient of Trump's largess here. He is merely the conduit. Putin is the recipient. Via VTB Bank and other oligarchs.
It was a paper shuffle.
Since you aren't addressing the fact that he opposed them continuously, and couldn't reasonable override the Congressional veto-proof majoirty, I'll take it that you know Trump opposes sanctions, but you're just trying to run cover like always. Carry on your good works.
Hurry, call in those favors Putin, January is swiftly approaching and we're not sure how long Trump can last in his bunker, they are pounding on every side.
So Deripaska lowered his “stake.” How do you think he did that? “Here, Vlad, can you do me a solid and hold some of my ownership stake in my company so we can get sanctions reduced?”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ove-sanctions-on-deripaska-s-rusal-in-30-days
“These companies have committed to significantly diminish Deripaska’s ownership and sever his control,” Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said in the statement. “The companies will be subject to ongoing compliance and will face severe consequences if they fail to comply.”
“Mnuchin added that Treasury “maintains the ability under the terms of the agreement to have unprecedented levels of transparency into operations.”
Because transparency is what Russia is all about.........
I'm not aware of any such law. It's my understanding this is an administrative decision, via Treasury.And the law set the criteria for them to be lifted. Shall Trump ignore the law?
There is a thread hereabouts wondering if Putin wishes to resurrect the Cold War. If the USA is to approach that anything to do with Putin and Russia is toxic, perhaps the appropriate question do the anti-Trumpers (Democrats) wish to resurrect the Cold War.
Source: (CNN Politico) Treasury plans to lift sanctions on Russian aluminum giant Rusal
Fresh on the heels of Trump's withdrawing the troops from Syria, we see this.
Oleg Vladimir Depreska, besides sharing a given-name with Putin, appears to be one of his puppet oligarchs. The company in the article, Rusal, is owned by him (Depreska). Well, except now he has reduced his ownership (on paper) to 49.5%. And Trump (via the Treasury) has summarily removed the sanctions imposed by Congress.
This is another big win for Putin. The question I have, is:
"Is it warranted?"
And the law set the criteria for them to be lifted. Shall Trump ignore the law?
No, see, both sides are whining, but we have the body of evidence of Trump and his campaigns public behavior, evidence of lies, consciousness of guilty, intent, etc., and multiple campaign staff up on felony charges for lying to investigators, now Stone/Corsi look to be getting their time in the barrel soon, and the net continues to close.Too bad you don't have any proof ... only your whining ...
I'm not aware of any such law. It's my understanding this is an administrative decision, via Treasury.
If you have cites for legal statute forcing Trump's hand, I'd kindly appreciate your sharing them.