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'Treason If True': Trump Lashes Out At Gen Milley Over Claims Of China Dealings "Behind The President's Back"

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Oh boy, first Biden’s calls and now this blatant BS
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Update (1906ET): President Trump has responded to claims that Milley had a back-channel with his Chinese counterparts and would warn them of any impending attacks.

"If the story of “Dumbass” General Mark Milley...is true, then I assume he would be tried for TREASON in that he would have been dealing with his Chinese counterpart behind the President’s back and telling China that he would be giving them notification “of an attack.”" wrote Trump in a statement.

That said, Trump also said that "The good news is that the story is Fake News concocted by a weak and ineffective General together with two authors who I refused to give an interview to because they write fiction, not fact. Actions should be taken immediately against Milley, and better generals in our Military, of which we have many, should get involved so that another Afghanistan disaster never happens again."

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No what happened was Milley called and assured the Chinese Trump wasn't going to attack them, because the Chinese for some reason thought he would. You never want your adversary to think they will be attacked, that's when they become unpredictable.
 
It also cannot be treason. Treason is very narrowly defined by Article III, Section 3, Clause 1 of the US Constitution:
{emphasis added}

Since General Milley did not levy war against the US, and since China is not a declared enemy of the US, there can be no treason.
 
Aid and comfort
 
joluoto said:
No what happened was Milley called and assured the Chinese Trump wasn't going to attack them, because the Chinese for some reason thought he would. You never want your adversary to think they will be attacked, that's when they become unpredictable.
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It's so fantastic)))

It has been widely known for many years that the United States is completely incapacitated in foreign policy on the eve of elections.
The war between Russia and Georgia in 2008, a Turkish Invasion of Iraq in 2016, the state coup attempt in Montenegro in 2016, I personally was there, vacation spent in that moment, the war between Armenia and Azerbaijan in 2020...
I hope it's not the secret of the citizens of the United States that everything in the World have long realized that for the period of their presidential elections, the United States withdrew from participation in the global agenda, especially in the conflict.
Because there are stories that the Chinese were allegedly afraid of starting a war with the United States in the wake of the elections... this is populism bordering on amateurism.
This is nonsense.
 
Evilroddy said:
You're not at war with China. If you were there'd be a declaration of war to point to.
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If he was calling ahead of an attack to provide warning that is treason.
 
VySky said:
If he was calling ahead of an attack to provide warning that is treason.
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How many different ways does it need to be said?

You don't know what treason means.
 
VySky said:
If he was calling ahead of an attack to provide warning that is treason.
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VySky:

Gen. Milley was calling ahead to diffuse Chinese fears of a possible attack by the USA military during an apprehended palace coups, which might have been illegally ordered by the President without Congressional Authorization. The President does not have the power to start and declare wars. Milley was trying to avoid a war, not tip the Chinese off about a planned war by the USA.

That said, Milley stepped way outside the chain of command and should offer his resignation for doing so. A wise president would either refuse such a resignation publicly or accept it, and then reinstate the general immediately and praise him publicly for his service to the country at a time of American political upheaval. Mr. Trump's term of office was a stark warning of the dangers of allowing the creep towards an imperial presidency where war powers lie with just one person in contravention to the US constitution.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.
 
VySky said:
If he was calling ahead of an attack to provide warning that is treason.
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He called and said the US was not going to attack China, that is the absolute opposite of what you are claiming.
 
ZeroHedge folks, need anything more be said?

Let's say, for the sake of argument, I was a diehard follower of CNN, and practically every thread I posted quoted CNN and I mimicked what they were saying, without so much as an original thought. Now I imagine, folks would read my ramblings and think "Man oh man, this guy can't think for himself, he has to mimic CNN" or "why does this guy primarily quote the same source all the time, is he in the employ of CNN?"
And of course I would become defensive and claim that CNN is the only source for REAL news, the only news outlet that dares to tell us the truth and give us a fresh perspective. And then when I am assailed for my source of news, I will still ignore the implications and just keep on doing the same on every thread.
 
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I mean say what you want about CNN, they are still more credible than random Bulgarian Fight Club fan.
 
joluoto said:
I mean say what you want about CNN, they are still more credible than random Bulgarian Fight Club fan.
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the point being, taking ONE news source, and repeating every story they print without questioning the veracity of the story.
 
That’s why Trump called it fake news. Miley is a POS
 
I am guessing there is zero chance that VySky will look up the actual definition of treason and a 100% chance he will continue his inaccurate screed.
 
tacomancer said:
I am guessing there is zero chance that VySky will look up the actual definition of treason and a 100% chance he will continue his inaccurate screed.
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Are you saying if the treasonous General called China to warn of an impending attack that in itself is not treason? Please explain
 
VySky said:
Are you saying if the treasonous General called China to warn of an impending attack that in itself is not treason? Please explain
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Are we are war with China? If so, when did congress make this declaration?
 
tacomancer said:
Are we are war with China? If so, when did congress make this declaration?
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If the United States has decided to launch an attack on China what do you call that? And if said leading General calls your enemy and warns them of the imminent strike? What do you call that?
 
VySky said:
If the United States has decided to launch an attack on China what do you call that? And if said leading General calls your enemy and warns them of the imminent strike? What do you call that?
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So we were not at war with China at that time then, got it.

Without being at war, it is impossible to commit treason.
 
tacomancer said:
So we were not at war with China at that time then, got it.

Without being at war, it is impossible to commit treason.
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LMAO

What do you think we are doing if we are launching nukes? We are at WAR. And if your leading military leader during a time OF WAR calls the ENEMY and tells them the nukes are coming guess what that’s called

TREASON!

So now you know.and won’t sound so ignorant
 
Any declaration of war would have been after the fact, which means it would still have been impossible to commit treason.

Also the president doesn't have the power to declare war, congress does. The president can only invoke military action for a specific time period.
 
Who said the POTUS can declare war? Thanks for the update on water being wet.

Why assume we would not be at war with someone we have decided to nuke?
 
We are not at war with china.
 
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