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Transgender minors have a right to gender-affirming care, Justice Dept. warns states

That's called bluffing, and you're not doing a good job of it. 🤷‍♂️

Meanwhile, my sources say that regret for gender confirmation surgery is no more than 1%.

It should be zero for kids
 
To protect children
Well then advocate for raising the age of medical autonomy. Nobody seemed to think it was an issue until now.
The mature minor doctrine is a rule of law found in the United States and Canada accepting that an unemancipated minor patient may possess the maturity to choose or reject a particular health care treatment, sometimes without the knowledge or agreement of parents, and should be permitted to do so.[1] It is now generally considered a form of patients rights

Wiki also lists individual states and their various laws/minimum ages.
 
What "care" exactly?

Hormones? Surgery?

At what age? Sixteen? Ten? Five??

Holey Hannah, I've raised three kids and the idea of letting them decide to get permanent, life-changing "treatment" as a minor is not such a hot idea, imho. Considering the degree to which post-surgical trans report continued dissatisfaction and depression, or regret... letting minors with their scientifically-proven-undeveloped brains make this choice, against parental judgement, strikes me as a very bad idea.
Yes, if you follow the links through to the bills that are deemed so objectionable, you'll find that delays in "gender affirming care" includes delaying "irreversible gender reassignment surgery until the age of 18."

That the cite in the OP relies on euphemisms should tell us something. That @Phys251 dodged your question in favor of a personal attack should, too.
 
Yes, if you follow the links through to the bills that are deemed so objectionable, you'll find that delays in "gender affirming care" includes delaying "irreversible gender reassignment surgery until the age of 18."

More transphobic nonsense. Trans youth have the right to gender-affirming care. Why do you want to keep it from them?

That the cite in the OP relies on euphemisms should tell us something. That @Phys251 dodged your question in favor of a personal attack should, too.

:LOL:
 
Well then advocate for raising the age of medical autonomy. Nobody seemed to think it was an issue until now.


Wiki also lists individual states and their various laws/minimum ages.
They generally need a court order to get this right in most jurisdictions which is not what people are calling for here
 
What "care" exactly?
The mildest, lowest-consequence form of care would be social transitioning such as use of preferred pronouns, freedom to have toys/clothes/etc. of their choice without stigma and so on. For kids with gender dysphoria whether severe/diagnosed or not, that would of course be a treatment process which should be respected, much like accessibility tools for disabled people, gifted/remedial/vocational programs for kids of differing aptitudes and so on. But it seems that many conservatives would oppose (and teach their kids to oppose) even that mildest form of gender affirmation. By all appearances, conservatives are determined to ensure that transgender folk need medical/surgical treatment to have even the faintest hope of having their preferred gender recognized.

Given that social climate, the recommended first stage of medical treatment for children, if required, is use of puberty blockers to prevent development of the unwanted/wrong secondary sex characteristics and minimize complications with a full surgical transition if desired once they reach adulthood.

Hormones? Surgery?

At what age? Sixteen? Ten? Five??
Social transitioning can begin at more or less any age. Diagnosis of gender dysphoria requires the presence of multiple key diagnostic criteria over a period of at least six months IIRC, which would be a sensible guideline for any parents; children should have the primary say in how they want to be treated, subject to health and legal requirements obviously, but there's also the important distinction between short-term whimsy and an actual disconnect between sex and gender. The first stage of medical intervention - puberty blockers - are not administered until after the onset of puberty, potentially after years of recognized dysphoria and social transitioning.

Holey Hannah, I've raised three kids and the idea of letting them decide to get permanent, life-changing "treatment" as a minor is not such a hot idea, imho. Considering the degree to which post-surgical trans report continued dissatisfaction and depression, or regret... letting minors with their scientifically-proven-undeveloped brains make this choice, against parental judgement, strikes me as a very bad idea.
How valid do you imagine "parental judgement" would be in diagnosing sickle cell anaemia or AIDS or any of a thousand other conditions, even before introducing the widespread prejudices and even greater scope of ignorance and misinformation surrounding trangenderism? Ideally of course parents should be in the loop and on board with their children's needs. But allowing parents to block medical treatment of teenagers' persistent self-reported experience and needs, based on the parents' prejudices and ignorance, seems like a wildly misguided notion.

There's potential downsides both to growing up as the wrong gender and to blocking/delaying puberty with a view to potential later transitioning: The only person who can reasonably make the choice which of those risks to take is the teenager themself, obviously with appropriate information from medical professional/s.
 
The mildest, lowest-consequence form of care would be social transitioning such as use of preferred pronouns, freedom to have toys/clothes/etc. of their choice without stigma and so on. For kids with gender dysphoria whether severe/diagnosed or not, that would of course be a treatment process which should be respected, much like accessibility tools for disabled people, gifted/remedial/vocational programs for kids of differing aptitudes and so on. But it seems that, many conservatives would oppose (and teach their kids to oppose) even that mildest form of gender affirmation. By all appearances, conservatives are determined to ensure that transgender folk need medical/surgical treatment to have even the faintest hope of having their preferred gender recognized.

Given that social climate, the recommended first stage of medical treatment for children, if required, is use of puberty blockers to prevent development of the unwanted/wrong secondary sex characteristics and minimize complications with a full surgical transition if desired once they reach adulthood.


Social transitioning can begin at more or less any age. Diagnosis of gender dysphoria requires the presence of multiple key diagnostic criteria over a period of at least six months IIRC, which would be a sensible guideline for any parents; children should have the primary say in how they want to be treated, subject to health and legal requirements obviously, but there's also the important distinction between short-term whimsy and an actual disconnect between sex and gender. The first stage of medical intervention - puberty blockers - are not administered until after the onset of puberty, potentially after years of recognized dysphoria and social transitioning.


How valid do you imagine "parental judgement" would be in diagnosing sickle cell anaemia or AIDS or any of a thousand other conditions, even before introducing the widespread prejudices and even greater scope of ignorance and misinformation surrounding trangenderism? Ideally of course parents should be in the loop and on board with their children's needs. But allowing parents to block medical treatment of teenagers' persistent self-reported experience and needs, based on the parents' prejudices and ignorance, seems like a wildly misguided notion.

There's potential downsides both to growing up as the wrong gender and to blocking/delaying puberty with a view to potential later transitioning; the only person who can reasonably make the choice which of those risks to take is the teenager themself, obviously with appropriate information from medical professional/s.
I think it is a wildly misguided motion that children are able to determine they need permanent medical procedures
 
It’s a weird world when a 16 year old is not considered mature enough to understand the impact something like smoking/vaping has on their long term health, but are able to make permanent and irreversible choices about their health about their perceived gender. It’s just odd the choices we feel teens can or can’t make and the contortion needed to justify those positions
 
More transphobic nonsense. Trans youth have the right to gender-affirming care. Why do you want to keep it from them?
Yes, I absolutely want to keep them from a procedure that will disfigure them for life by carving out their reproductive organs until they are old enough to make such a decision for themselves.
 
It’s a weird world when a 16 year old is not considered mature enough to understand the impact something like smoking/vaping has on their long term health, but are able to make permanent and irreversible choices about their health about their perceived gender. It’s just odd the choices we feel teens can or can’t make and the contortion needed to justify those positions
It's a kind of child sacrifice performed at the Altar of Progressive Politics.
 
Yes, I absolutely want to keep them from a procedure that will disfigure them for life

Pure transphobic nonsense. Why do you want to block trans youth from potentially life-saving hormone therapy?

by carving out their reproductive organs until they are old enough to make such a decision for themselves.

We're talking about gender-affirming hormone therapy, not gender confirmation surgery. Do try to keep up.
 
I think it is a wildly misguided motion that children are able to determine they need permanent medical procedures
Well, that's not how it goes down. Generally it is weeks/months of therapy and multiple sign offs by both therapists, doctors, and behavioral health specialists.
There is no specific order for these steps, other than requirements for a behavioral health evaluation and preparation in advance of chest and genital surgery, and the use of hormone therapy and presenting full time in one's chosen gender identity for 1 year before genital procedures, unless there is a medical or other reason that prevents meeting these requirements.
For transgender and gender non-binary people under the age of 18, there are some additional considerations both for gender identity exploration as well as for undergoing various medical or surgical interventions. In general this involves first working with a behavioral health provider or child & adolescent gender program to explore identity and process.
 
It's a kind of child sacrifice performed at the Altar of Progressive Politics.

Projection. Righties don't care how many trans kids are murdered or commit suicide.
 
Well, that's not how it goes down. Generally it is weeks/months of therapy and multiple sign offs by both therapists, doctors, and behavioral health specialists.


But ultimately it is a child deciding that they want permanent life altering treatment.


I dont think a child can decide to smoke a cigarette so I sure dont think they can decide this
 
Pure transphobic nonsense. Why do you want to block trans youth from potentially life-saving hormone therapy?
According to the NIH, the body of scientific research on the subject bears out that gender dysphoria resolves naturally with puberty in the vast majority of cases. Why do you want to deny kids a natural resolution to their disorder?
 
According to the NIH, the body of scientific research on the subject bears out that gender dysphoria resolves naturally with puberty in the vast majority of cases.

Prove it.

Why do you want to deny kids a natural resolution to their disorder?

I asked my question first. :)
 
According to the NIH, the body of scientific research on the subject bears out that gender dysphoria resolves naturally with puberty in the vast majority of cases. Why do you want to deny kids a natural resolution to their disorder?
I would like to see that research
 
Well then advocate for raising the age of medical autonomy. Nobody seemed to think it was an issue until now.


Wiki also lists individual states and their various laws/minimum ages.

I don't think this would/should apply in this case. Elective body alterations, hormones, isn't a medical preventative or a life threatening condition that this is needed.
 
Pure transphobic nonsense. Why do you want to block trans youth from potentially life-saving hormone therapy?



We're talking about gender-affirming hormone therapy, not gender confirmation surgery. Do try to keep up.
No, we are talking about surgery, too. It's clear you only gave a superficial read to your own cite. Follow the links to some of those bills. The topic includes surgery.

That said, I oppose underage hormone treatments for Gender Dysphoria, too. They are less of a health risk than the surgery, but still potentially dangerous.
 
Prove it.
Proven.

“Evidence from the 10 available prospective follow-up studies from childhood to adolescence (reviewed in the study by Ristori and Steensma) indicates that for ~80% of children who meet the criteria for GDC, the GD recedes with puberty.”
 
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