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Transgender Ban on Girls in Sports

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Do you agree with this Utah ruling?

Utah bans transgender athletes in girls sports despite veto

Dwayne Wade, a great basketball player does not agree with it.

Dwyane Wade takes heartfelt stand against anti-trans laws​

On Tuesday, Wade offered his take on the wave of bigoted anti-trans legislation that’s sweeping the nation. He shared the now-viral speech from Missouri father Brandon Boulware, who urged Missouri legislators to reject a bill that would ban his trans daughter from playing sports. Missouri is one of 20 states considering restrictions on athletics or gender-confirming health care for transgender kids.

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What say you, should transgender girls be able to play sports competitively?
 

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What say you, should transgender girls be able to play sports competitively?
No, they shouldn't.

The activists are making it harder for transgender people.

A few activists are now even claiming that some "women" have penises.

When the activists go too far, they become a laughing stock and make it more difficult for transgender people.

(Just as some deranged feminists wanted schools to teach "herstory" instead of "history."
 

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It isn't about trans females having an unfair advantage in sports, which is the cons perspective. It's about a society accepting trans into the whole of society in everything, not excluding them from where the cons believe trans don't belong.
 

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It isn't about trans females having an unfair advantage in sports, which is the cons perspective. It's about a society accepting trans into the whole of society in everything, not excluding them from where the cons believe trans don't belong.
But trans females do get an unfair advantage
 

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It isn't about trans females having an unfair advantage in sports, which is the cons perspective. It's about a society accepting trans into the whole of society in everything, not excluding them from where the cons believe trans don't belong.
If only belief could make a male a female. Women- biological women-are the people who cannot participate in the whole of society when they are once again, marginalized and displaced by males.
Same shit, different day.
 

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No, they shouldn't.

The activists are making it harder for transgender people.

A few activists are now even claiming that some "women" have penises.

When the activists go too far, they become a laughing stock and make it more difficult for transgender people.

(Just as some deranged feminists wanted schools to teach "herstory" instead of "history."
I used to agree with your kind of thinking but I no longer agree. It is funny how reading and gaining knowledge expands understanding of what things actually, rather than what we believe them to be. Read this:

Results Twenty-four studies were identified and reviewed. Transwomen experienced significant decreases in all parameters measured, with different time courses noted. After 4 months of hormone therapy, transwomen have Hgb/HCT levels equivalent to those of cisgender women. After 12 months of hormone therapy, significant decreases in measures of strength, LBM and muscle area are observed. The effects of longer duration therapy (36 months) in eliciting further decrements in these measures are unclear due to paucity of data. Notwithstanding, values for strength, LBM and muscle area in transwomen remain above those of cisgender women, even after 36 months of hormone therapy.
Conclusion In transwomen, hormone therapy rapidly reduces Hgb to levels seen in cisgender women. In contrast, hormone therapy decreases strength, LBM and muscle area, yet values remain above that observed in cisgender women, even after 36 months. These findings suggest that strength may be well preserved in transwomen during the first 3 years of hormone therapy.

What this means is that after hormone therapy, a woman that used to be a man no longer has the strength she had as a man.
 

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I used to agree with your kind of thinking but I no longer agree. It is funny how reading and gaining knowledge expands understanding of what things actually, rather than what we believe them to be. Read this:



What this means is that after hormone therapy, a woman that used to be a man no longer has the strength she had as a man.
Yet she still has an advantage over women
 

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Do check the post (#8) that I just posted.
That only says they lose some strength....not that they become equal to women. Lias freestyle speed went down...and she still won the national championship
 

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That only says they lose some strength....not that they become equal to women. Lias freestyle speed went down...and she still won the national championship
Of course she did but it wasn't because she had been a man but because she had been an athlete. Athletes that train to be champions do become champions.
 

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Of course she did but it wasn't because she had been a man but because she had been an athlete. Athletes that train to be champions do become champions.
So you think she was ranked as over 500th in freestyle as a man and the first year she competes as a woman wins the national championship was due to training?

Did you see the size of her compared to the other women?


Come on man
 

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So you think she was ranked as over 500th in freestyle as a man and the first year she competes as a woman wins the national championship was due to training?

Did you see the size of her compared to the other women?


Come on man
So, there are no oversized women in sports?

And by the way, do you understand that being 500th as a man suggests that he was not a man? That he had woman's strength but not man's strength?
 

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So, there are no oversized women in sports?

And by the way, do you understand that being 500th as a man suggests that he was not a man? That he had woman's strength but not man's strength?
What???? He was biologically born a woman now????


Even she does not claim that!!!!!


That is ridiculous!!!!
 

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What???? He was biologically born a woman now????


Even she does not claim that!!!!!


That is ridiculous!!!!
You need to do some more reading. Transgender people have the genes of their gender even though they may have the physicals of the other gender. In simple words, thought they have balls, they are not men.

Nearly everyone in middle school biology learned that if you’ve got XX chromosomes, you’re a female; if you’ve got XY, you’re a male. This tired simplification is great for teaching the importance of chromosomes but betrays the true nature of biological sex. The popular belief that your sex arises only from your chromosomal makeup is wrong. The truth is, your biological sex isn’t carved in stone, but a living system with the potential for change.

Why? Because biological sex is far more complicated than XX or XY (or XXY, or just X). XX individuals could present with male gonads. XY individuals can have ovaries. How? Through a set of complex genetic signals that, in the course of a human’s development, begins with a small group of cells called the bipotential primordium and a gene called SRY.

A newly fertilized embryo initially develops without any indication of its sex. At around five weeks, a group of cells clump together to form the bipotential primordium. These cells are neither male nor female but have the potential to turn into testes, ovaries or neither. After the primordium forms, SRY—a gene on the Y chromosome discovered in 1990, thanks to the participation of intersex XX males and XY females—might be activated.*


Nearly everyone in middle school biology learned that if you’ve got XX chromosomes, you’re a female; if you’ve got XY, you’re a male. This tired simplification is great for teaching the importance of chromosomes but betrays the true nature of biological sex. The popular belief that your sex arises only from your chromosomal makeup is wrong. The truth is, your biological sex isn’t carved in stone, but a living system with the potential for change.

Why? Because biological sex is far more complicated than XX or XY (or XXY, or just X). XX individuals could present with male gonads. XY individuals can have ovaries. How? Through a set of complex genetic signals that, in the course of a human’s development, begins with a small group of cells called the bipotential primordium and a gene called SRY.

A newly fertilized embryo initially develops without any indication of its sex. At around five weeks, a group of cells clump together to form the bipotential primordium. These cells are neither male nor female but have the potential to turn into testes, ovaries or neither. After the primordium forms, SRY—a gene on the Y chromosome discovered in 1990, thanks to the participation of intersex XX males and XY females—might be activated.*
 
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You need to do some more reading. Transgender people have the genes of their gender even though they may have the physicals of the other gender. In simple words, thought they have balls, they are not men.
Actually no, most of them are genetic males for the most part. You need to do more reading.
 

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You need to do some more reading. Transgender people have the genes of their gender even though they may have the physicals of the other gender. In simple words, thought they have balls, they are not men.
She gets a obvious advantage then
 

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Who cares what Dwayne Wade thinks? Rest of us think he's a crappy Dad or he wouldn't have raised a freak.
I have to hand it to you Vy, you are an open book and consistent as can be. Unfortunately, being consistent at what you do (criticize everyone without knowledge or understanding) is about as bad as it can get for any person to be.

You are a born critic that does not have any desire to seek the truth. The only desire is to criticize anything and anyone that does not conform to your way of thinking.

This is what you think of yourself.

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and this is reality.............you are the small pebble in this meme

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Not really, at least from the point of view of science.

Nonetheless and from the point of view of bias, then you at 100% right.
I suppose it's just a coincidence to go from ranked 500th to win the national championship


You wish to put on blinders so you can not see the obvious
 

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I suppose it's just a coincidence to go from ranked 500th to win the national championship


You wish to put on blinders so you can not see the obvious
500th among men!!!!

Evidently, she was not a man when she was a man. Where do you expect a women to rate among men in sports? Number #1? Among her own "gender", she was competitive.
 
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