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Trans beats 13-year-old girl in NYC women’s skateboarding contest

Grim17 said:
I just don't get it... Why is it so difficult for you and so many others on the left to answer a simple question?

You either think it's fair for a biological man to compete against girls in a girls skateboarding competition, or you don't?

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It depends on the specific case.
I don't know the context around and rules of this competition.

So, like I said, it's either working as intended or the governing body of that competition needs to adjust the rules.
 
Grim17 said:
I just don't get it... Why is it so difficult for you and so many others on the left to answer a simple question?

You either think it's fair for a biological man to compete against girls in a girls skateboarding competition, or you don't?

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It seems that these people want to treat all trans as better than natural born women. Pure prejudice and misogyny.
 
Davin said:
I’m sorry but you’re more concerned with the fact the person is trans and not being “fair” but not upset over the fact a person that is 29 is competing with a 13 year old?
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The article notes that the 4th place finisher was 28, the 5th place finisher 10. I realize the competition was "open" but that age disparity does feel jarring. Why not create age divisions instead of having adults compete against pre-pubescent/pubescent children?
 
Gatsby said:
The results of the competition suggest otherwise. If you are going to keep repeating the claim that sex and age offer exactly the same physical advantages in all sports, then you're going to have to contend with the actual results that suggest age didn't actually play a big role in this competition, if at all.

But for the sake of argument, let's suppose that you're right. Let's suppose that these 4 kids who finished in the top 6 entered this competition with adults, heroically overcame the injustice of their age-based physical disadvantage, and defeated all the adults. Great. They got the competition they signed up for, and rose to the top. One would expect the competitors in an adult competition to be...adults. Adults who signed up to compete against other adults are not doing anything wrong, just because some kids also chose to sign up. Similarly a man competing in a men's league isn't doing anything wrong, just because some talented woman might occasionally sign up to compete against the men.

In contrast, a man participating in a Women's Skateboarding Contest *is* doing something wrong, because he's entering a contest at which he has a physical advantage, which exists for the sole purpose of excluding him. And if these adults had found a Kids Skateboarding Contest and got in by pretending to be underage, they would also be doing something wrong.

Some absolutely would do it. Some have.

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Is it your contention that Lia Thomas transitioned simply to compete against women?
 
Lycanthrope said:
Is it your contention that Lia Thomas transitioned simply to compete against women?
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I don't know or care about his motives. It doesn't matter if he transitioned to cheat, or if he transitioned because he genuinely thinks he is a woman and the cheating is just a byproduct of that. Either way, he's a man competing in women's sports where he has a massive physical advantage.
 
PoS said:
It seems that these people want to treat all trans as better than natural born women. Pure prejudice and misogyny.
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Some are better, some are not, but that's irrelevant. Biological men have no business competing against women PERIOD!

Why do so many on the left hate women?
 
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oh my god now they're mad about skateboarding
 
PoS said:
nypost.com

Trans competitor beats 13-year-old girl in NYC women’s skateboarding contest

Transgender skateboarder Ricci Tres, 29, came under fire after beating out a 13-year-old girl for first place in a New York City contest.
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Is this fair? The trans is a military veteran who physically developed as a man before he transitioned to a woman.

If I was the parent of the 13-year old who came in second place, I would be livid.
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This transgender men in women's sports is total bullshit and one of the most idiotic, unfair and female hating crap I have ever seen.
 
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Deuce said:
oh my god now they're mad about skateboarding
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The end of Title IX and women's sports is worth getting mad about. Especially when it's brought about by people who mostly think of themselves as liberal, and pat themselves on the back for how woke they are for eliminating women's sports.
 
ProgressPlease said:
The UK has created an open category

British Triathlon becomes first UK sport to create 'open' category for transgender athletes

This is what many reasonable people, including olympic athletes, transgender athletes, have been saying would be the best balance of fairness and inclusion. https://www.bbc.com/sport/triathlon/62063359 The British Triathlon Federation confirmed that for athletes over the age of 12...
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That's fine, I have no problem with coed sports as long as they don't replace women's sports.
 
Gatsby said:
The end of Title IX and women's sports is worth getting mad about. Especially when it's brought about by people who mostly think of themselves as liberal, and pat themselves on the back for how woke they are for eliminating women's sports.
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Which women's sports league and/or team has shut down?
 
Deuce said:
Which women's sports league and/or team has shut down?
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All of them that allow men have shut down as women's leagues and have become coed leagues.
 
Gatsby said:
All of them that allow men have shut down as women's leagues and have become coed leagues.
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Uninterested in this goalpost shift.
 
Deuce said:
Uninterested in this goalpost shift.
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You asked which women's leagues had shut down, I answered. Any of them that allow men.

Like, if the WNBA allowed LeBron James to play, there would still exist a legal entity called the WNBA. But it wouldn't be the WNBA.
 
Gatsby said:
You asked which women's leagues had shut down, I answered. Any of them that allow men.
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Yes, and your definition of shutting down is made up, so I'm not interested.
 
Deuce said:
Yes, and your definition of shutting down is made up, so I'm not interested.
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What is the functional difference between a woman's league admitting men, versus a woman's league shutting down and being replaced by a coed/men's league?

The outcome is exactly the same. No more woman's league.
 
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