"Depends upon which faith you adhere to. Some believe that you end up in another animal, some believe we end up in 'Heaven', dancing eternally among the faeries. If you mean we all 'DIE' then yes, you're right."
No, I'm not talking about death.
We all have the same divine spark of life. We all came from God. We will all end up back with God.
"I've provided every bit of evidence that it is INTOLERANT and bigoted, if you can't SEE it, that is your problem, not mine."
You presented evidence of your own assumptions and interpretations, and that's what I saw.
"The Lord rebukes you" doesn't imply any of what you assumed. It just miens that you are not compliant with God's law on that issue. That's it.
"Adultery is not a 'sin'."
The Lord rebukes you.
"Though it may be according to your understanding and that's fine, but don't try to suggest that your understanding has any more merit than anyone else's. Because it does NOT."
Merit proves itself. I need suggest nothing.
Would you like a bible quote or two?...perhaps something from the quaran?..a side of Yin-Yang in absence of Yin-Yin or Yang-Yang?...should I liken it to phisics with a splash of "opposites attract".......2 plugs nor 2 sockets will compleat the cirkit with out intervention (= unnatural)....you can not power your computer with electrons allone, there must also be protons at the other end of the circit....perhaps I'll give my old Wiccan priestess a call and ask her to explain how the elimination of either the masculine or the feminine would retain balance...or should I go back to the point-blank observation that the software doesn't match the hardware? A woman is physically incapable of being a husband. A man is phisically incapable of being a wife.
An evidence of a natural order is the fact that neither 2 healthy men, nor 2 healthy women, can "be one flesh" and produce children; they must always go outside of their relationship to do so, just like an unhealthy opposite-sex couple.
A healthy man and a healthy woman, however, can produce children within their union.
As I've said, if one wishes to persue a homosexual relationship, so be it. I will not oppose you. But to say that it is the same as an opposite-sex union is a lie.
"Why not? You DID, when you spoke of 'sin'. I can 'go beyond' any scope I choose to in order to prove my point."
You said that God blessed a homosexual union. Homosexuality is rejected by the very law that those women wished to be married by.
Either God did not bless such a union, or in doing so He contradicted Himself, thus nullifying His own law, and rendering inert such a blessing.
Since God's law is still around, He did not contradict himself. witch only leaves the first option: He didn't bless such a union.
"But I'm not guilty."
Say it with me now...The....Lord....rebukes....you....
We are all law breakers.
I don't believe in a God that penalizes and punishes.
Not now that we have had the final sacrifice for sin, no. He leaves us to our divices unless we ask for intervention.
You might say that God is very pro. Choice.
"That's where your spiritual understanding is different from mine. There simply IS no 'final judgment'. We are judged every day by the choices we make and the consequences that they entail."
Sure, consequences exist, but that is not the judgment.
Betty J. Eadie, in her book Embraced By the Light, sums up my consept of the big J.:
(page #112...emphasis in original)
"I stepped to my left too wach the review. It occurred in the place where I had been standing. My life appeared before me in the form of what we might consider extremely well defined holograms, but at tremendous speed. I was astonished that I could understand so much information at such a speed. My comprehension much more than what I remember happening during each event of my life. I not only experienced my own emotionsat each moment, but also what others around me felt.
"I experienced their thoughts and feelings about me.There were times when things became clear to me in a new way "Yes", I would say to myself. "Oh, yes. Now I see. Well who would have guessed? But of course it makes sense."
"I saw the disappointment that I had cawsed in others, and I cringed as their feelings of disappointment filled me, compounded by my own guilt. I understood all the suffering I had caused, and I felt it. I began to tremble. I saw how much grief my bad temper had caused, and I suffered this grief. I saw my selfishness, and my heart cried for relief. How could I been so uncaring?
"Then in the midst of my pain, I felt the love of the council come over me. They watched my life with understanding and mercy. Everything about me was taken into consideration, how I was raised, the things I had been thought, the pain given me by others, the opportunities I had received or not received. And I realized that the council was not judging me. I was judging my self.
"Their love and mercy were absolute. Their respect for me could never be lessened. I was especially greatfull for their love as the next phase of my review passed before me.
"I was shown the "ripple effect", as they described it. I saw how I had wronged people and how they had often turned to others and committed a similar wrong. This chain continued from victim to victim, like a circle of domino's, until it came back. I had offended far more people then I knew, and my pain multiplied and became unbearable.
"The Savior stepped toward me, full of concern and love. His spirit gave me strength, and he said that I was judging myself too critically. "You are being too harsh on yourself", he said. Then he showed me the reverse side of the ripple effect.
'I saw myself perform an act of kindness, just a simple act of unselfishness, and I saw the ripples go out again. The friend I had been kind to was kind in turn kind to one of her friends, and the chain repeated itself.
I saw love and happiness increase in other's lives because of that one simple act on my part. I saw their happiness grow and affect their lives in positive ways, some significantly. My pain was replaced with joy. I felt the love they felt, I felt their joy. And this from one simple act of kindness.
"A powerfull thought hit me, and I repeated it over and over in my mind: "Love is really the only thing that matters. Love is really the only thing that matters, and love is joy."
I recalled the scripture that said, "I have come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly" (John 10:10), and my soul was filled with this abundant joy."
"That means nothing to me. I don't read words written by men who fear God. I don't fear God."
You choose the 'blue pill' instead of the 'red pill'. That's fine, but until you choose to fear God you will not understand why you need fear nothing at all; nor will you understand the wisdom in faith.
"Nope. It's just an excuse to practice intolerance."
That's what you would like it to be, because that would fit your view of the world. But just isn't so.
"You could choose any number of 'sins' to attack."
And were back to "attacking" again. As I said, I am not predisposed to a persecution complex. I am not "attacking" anything.
"Why aren't you out trying to prevent fornicators from marrying and suggest a ban on that?? That is a 'sin' that really HAS done damage to the 'institution."
Fornication don by anyone not married is just fornication. Fornication don by married people which involves someone who said married person is not married to is called Adultery.
"You can believe that if you want. God does not reject homosexuality. God blesses it and loves to see people express love for one another. How or whom they express love to is of no consequence."
There you go with the whole "God blesses homosexuality" thing again.
Sure, why don't you just say "God blesses adultery" or "God blesses theft"? You would make just as much sense.
The Lord rebukes you.
God blesses love and forgives homosexuality.
The consequence of homosexuality has to do with the adversary's plan to weaken us.
Shall we discuss that?