Top Senate Dem: Koch brothers are un-American.....

[Jack Hays]

then you sanction political corruption
the buying and selling of government
thanks for playing 'how much will you bid for the legislation you want'

I do not believe that free speech equals political corruption, and your mere projection of your own mercenary outlook is not sufficient to make that case. Your assertion is without foundation.eace

 

[justabubba]

I do not believe that free speech equals political corruption,

thank you for making my case
which then tells us free speech does NOT equal money

and your mere projection of your own mercenary outlook is not sufficient to make that case. Your assertion is without foundation.eace

the reality is campaign contributions can be nothing other than political bribes. and since citizens united, that is more frequently the circumstance

 

[TheNextEra]

Awww. Whats the matter Harry? Getting worried about those Obama's lies now? Think Harry here will call the CBO and others liars too?

What did Harry forget about forcing people to buy the O'care?

I particularly find the drivel from BOTH sides nauseating. Neither side is actually helping America and they just sit there and call people from the other side "un-American". We have the far right whackos calling Obama and the Dem leaders Marxist, communist, un-American, Muslim, Socialist, etc while the far left calls the other side traitors, fascists, radicals, and un-American.

While each side calls the leaders of the other side "Dumb and idiotic", they continue to vote the same people in that only cause these problems. Now THAT is dumb and idiotic IMO.

 

[Jack Hays]

thank you for making my case
which then tells us free speech does NOT equal money


the reality is campaign contributions can be nothing other than political bribes. and since citizens united, that is more frequently the circumstance

Campaign contributions are the enablers of free speech, which I support and you, apparently, do not. How does it feel to occupy the low ground?eace

 

[justabubba]

Campaign contributions are the enablers of free speech, which I support and you, apparently, do not. How does it feel to occupy the low ground?eace

really, you must have money to be able to speak
what a weird concept

 

[MMC]

I particularly find the drivel from BOTH sides nauseating. Neither side is actually helping America and they just sit there and call people from the other side "un-American". We have the far right whackos calling Obama and the Dem leaders Marxist, communist, un-American, Muslim, Socialist, etc while the far left calls the other side traitors, fascists, radicals, and un-American.

While each side calls the leaders of the other side "Dumb and idiotic", they continue to vote the same people in that only cause these problems. Now THAT is dumb and idiotic IMO.

Political sites aren't going to line up and all sit there and think of solutions that can solve the countries problems. People that want to get into that should join Think Tanks. 90 percent here aren't into anything political other than bitching and looking to tear down the other side. Both ends against the middle with both ends having more of a majority now, people calling to change it. Term Limits, and you name it. But nothing getting done.

So what else is there.....not many here are up on keeping pic threads going other than Political and Funny Threads. Not up keeping a music room going or Vid threads.

Pretty much leaves off Topic and Sports and the other leisure threads. Which none of that is really Political either. So why even let it get like that when one thinks all about it and considers what else is going on here.

 

[TheNextEra]

Political sites aren't going to line up and all sit there and think of solutions that can solve the countries problems. People that want to get into that should join Think Tanks. 90 percent here aren't into anything political other than bitching and looking to tear down the other side. Both ends against the middle with both ends having more of a majority now, people calling to change it. Term Limits, and you name it. But nothing getting done.

So what else is there.....not many here are up on keeping pic threads going other than Political and Funny Threads. Not up keeping a music room going or Vid threads.

Pretty much leaves off Topic and Sports and the other leisure threads. Which none of that is really Political either. So why even let it get like that when one thinks all about it and considers what else is going on here.

It's not just political sites, it's people in general. The amount of partisan idiotic comments from both sides transcends political forums. And the same idiots from both sides keep voting in the same type of people that are the problem.

 

[Jack Hays]

really, you must have money to be able to speak
what a weird concept

Everyone can speak. The government does not have the power to limit them.

 

[justabubba]

Everyone can speak. The government does not have the power to limit them.

but what you want us to believe is that money paid over to politicians is free speech
you mistake free speech for a financial transaction; possibly a illegal, corrupting one

 

[Jack Hays]

but what you want us to believe is that money paid over to politicians is free speech
you mistake free speech for a financial transaction; possibly a illegal, corrupting one

The money is used for advocacy, free of government rationing.eace

 

[MMC]

Harry Reid Continues His War with the Koch Brothers over a Cancer Patient's Obamacare Ad.....

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will appear before the Senate on Tuesday to elaborate on his criticism of the Koch brothers, whose Americans for Prosperity PAC recently released a series of misleading anti-Obamacare ads, according to Politico. Last week Reid called the pair "un-American" and accused them of “trying to buy America," after their recent Obamacare horror story was debunked.

Actually, her overall costs are exactly the same, but could potentially be more erratic (her premiums are lower, but her out-of-pocket maximum is higher). The ad was criticized for being misleading by fact-checkers. Peters' lawyers wrote to television stations airing the ads and demanded they substantiate the claims in them, which detractors of the healthcare law called an attempt to "muzzle" her. Reid called the ads false.

As explained in The New York Times, Boonstra and Americans for Prosperity are fighting back, meaning the Koch Brothers are fighting back, with a new ad (right) released Tuesday. “We are completely comfortable about the accuracy of every item in our ads,” said Tim Phillips, the president of Americans for Prosperity. Reid said last week that ads like Boonstra's are "untrue," "absolutely false" and a distraction from the good work the law is doing. “Despite all that good news, there are plenty of horror stories being told,” Reid said on the Senate floor last week. “All of them are untrue, but they are being told all over America.” ....snip~

Harry Reid Continues His War with the Koch Brothers over a Cancer Patient's Obamacare Ad


As the Piece states.....good luck with this War of yours Harry.