But the U.S. military plainly tilts toward the GOP. That’s largely because today’s military is an all-volunteer force increasingly drawn from the Sunbelt, where the Pentagon has focused its recruiting efforts since the draft ended 40 years ago. And traits the military prizes — like aggressiveness and respect for authority — tend to be more pronounced in conservatives.
A Pew survey released last year showed post-9/11 veterans’ political leanings are the reverse of the public they’re serving: 36% describe themselves as Republicans, and 21% as Democrats; 34% of the public said they were Democrats, and 23% Republican. Six in 10 vets say they’re more patriotic than the average American.
I would like to see that study, if you have it.
Lower ranks tend to also be youthful; who are widely believed to lean Democrat. I see the possibility of your point being correct even without seeing the study...
It is why we have civilian control of the military. Trump is doing what he said he would do re: the military.
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The military absentee voting is consistently 2 to 1 Republican over Democratic.
Enlisted outnumber officers by a huge number.
In the 2000 election Bush won Florida by 521 votes of several million votes cast. We're talking about that election outcome enabling further the Bush Family of War by the enlisted military vote abroad.
Fortunately for Trump is is different. The Military Times poll of active duty military personnel across the services found that 43% are favorable toward Trump and 43% are unfavorable toward Trump.
Military Times found that 53 percent of officers across the armed services are unfavorable toward Trump. Only 30% of all officers are favorable toward Trump. Another 16% of officers say they don't give a rat's ass either way...they probably said that in 2000 too.
Marines meanwhile approve of Trump by 65% which is way above the armed forces median of 43% approval. Marines in fact lift wildly the overall approval of armed forces personnel and Trump. Marine Corps enlisted far outnumber USMC officers too of course.
Support for Trump is fading among active-duty troops, new poll shows
US armed forces chiefs and commanders active duty and retired have been critical of Trump since early 2017. Almost all of the 88 generals and admirals of 1 to 4 stars who endorsed Trump during the campaign have gone silent. During the 2016 campaign Trump said he'd "fire the generals" yet all he's done is to work around 'em and as we see by the OP Trump's time on that is running out. Fast.
The military absentee voting is consistently 2 to 1 Republican over Democratic.
Enlisted outnumber officers by a huge number.
In the 2000 election Bush won Florida by 521 votes of several million votes cast. We're talking about that election outcome enabling further the Bush Family of War by the enlisted military vote abroad.
Fortunately for Trump is is different. The Military Times poll of active duty military personnel across the services found that 43% are favorable toward Trump and 43% are unfavorable toward Trump.
Military Times found that 53 percent of officers across the armed services are unfavorable toward Trump. Only 30% of all officers are favorable toward Trump. Another 16% of officers say they don't give a rat's ass either way...they probably said that in 2000 too.
Marines meanwhile approve of Trump by 65% which is way above the armed forces median of 43% approval. Marines in fact lift wildly the overall approval of armed forces personnel and Trump. Marine Corps enlisted far outnumber USMC officers too of course.
Support for Trump is fading among active-duty troops, new poll shows
US armed forces chiefs and commanders active duty and retired have been critical of Trump since early 2017. Almost all of the 88 generals and admirals of 1 to 4 stars who endorsed Trump during the campaign have gone silent. During the 2016 campaign Trump said he'd "fire the generals" yet all he's done is to work around 'em and as we see by the OP Trump's time on that is running out. Fast.
I don't know if you saw the responses from my query, but the original article asked for did not really support the stance that Democrats outnumber Republicans in the military. It in fact stated the opposite, but it was an older article.
Generally speaking the military trends GOP when it comes to voting across all branches in total (officers and enlisted). There are nuanced differences to be made with the primary difference being that officers seem to have a smaller gap D to R, and may even have more D's than R's overall.
This now starts to support the OP article about officers being opposed to Trump's policy based on party affiliation.
i noticed a lot of marines and the type like them only hated Trump because of his demeanor but didnt seem to mind the cruelty. Something in the training perhaps?
I didn't know if this belongs in MSM or non-MSM, so I'm playing it safe.
[h=1]Top Military Officers Unload on Trump[/h]Military officers are sworn to serve whomever voters send to the White House. Cognizant of the special authority they hold, high-level officers epitomize respect for the chain of command, and are extremely reticent about criticizing their civilian overseers. That those I spoke with made an exception in Trump’s case is telling, and much of what they told me is deeply disturbing. In 20 years of writing about the military, I have never heard officers in high positions express such alarm about a president. Trump’s pronouncements and orders have already risked catastrophic and unnecessary wars in the Middle East and Asia, and have created severe problems for field commanders engaged in combat operations. Frequently caught unawares by Trump’s statements, senior military officers have scrambled, in their aftermath, to steer the country away from tragedy. How many times can they successfully do that before faltering?
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Our modern officer corps are trained to have sophistication and intelligence. In case you're wondering, they despise Trump, who has neither.
The article is a good read.
Military officers are human. It did not surprise me that some top military officers thought Obama was unqualified to be commander in chief and strongly objected to his policies.
I didn't know if this belongs in MSM or non-MSM, so I'm playing it safe.
[h=1]Top Military Officers Unload on Trump[/h]Military officers are sworn to serve whomever voters send to the White House. Cognizant of the special authority they hold, high-level officers epitomize respect for the chain of command, and are extremely reticent about criticizing their civilian overseers. That those I spoke with made an exception in Trump’s case is telling, and much of what they told me is deeply disturbing. In 20 years of writing about the military, I have never heard officers in high positions express such alarm about a president. Trump’s pronouncements and orders have already risked catastrophic and unnecessary wars in the Middle East and Asia, and have created severe problems for field commanders engaged in combat operations. Frequently caught unawares by Trump’s statements, senior military officers have scrambled, in their aftermath, to steer the country away from tragedy. How many times can they successfully do that before faltering?
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Our modern officer corps are trained to have sophistication and intelligence. In case you're wondering, they despise Trump, who has neither.
The article is a good read.
Yet they, for the most part, helped to vote him in office. The military generally votes Republican.
Just another instance of people voting against their best interests.
Of course your knee-jerk response is to try to justify Trump's actions.None of those officer have the ability to declare war on another country. that is the sole responsibility of congress.
Trump really had no choice but to do what he did. we were there to fight ISIS not the turkish military who is an ally by
the way. To keep troops there would have put them in harms way as turkey was going to bomb the place with them there or not.
So there was no need to put troops lives in danger. We do not have a declared war against turkey and congress would never issue one.
so why would you keep troops in an area that is going to get bombed. which is what i am sure the phone call was.
it was a warning of hey we are going to bomb this area if you have people there you better move them or they are going to get killed.
it helps to use a little logic and critical thinking skills than appeal to emotion outbursts.
I didn't know if this belongs in MSM or non-MSM, so I'm playing it safe.
[h=1]Top Military Officers Unload on Trump[/h]Military officers are sworn to serve whomever voters send to the White House. Cognizant of the special authority they hold, high-level officers epitomize respect for the chain of command, and are extremely reticent about criticizing their civilian overseers. That those I spoke with made an exception in Trump’s case is telling, and much of what they told me is deeply disturbing. In 20 years of writing about the military, I have never heard officers in high positions express such alarm about a president. Trump’s pronouncements and orders have already risked catastrophic and unnecessary wars in the Middle East and Asia, and have created severe problems for field commanders engaged in combat operations. Frequently caught unawares by Trump’s statements, senior military officers have scrambled, in their aftermath, to steer the country away from tragedy. How many times can they successfully do that before faltering?
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Our modern officer corps are trained to have sophistication and intelligence. In case you're wondering, they despise Trump, who has neither.
The article is a good read.
The few of 'em took some Pepto Bismol and got on with it. They never took Trump's birther garbage as anything but the nutcase ravings that they still are.
Trump is an aggressive cancer that needs radical removal.
So you guys over there shouldn't be surprised. Shocked of course, yet surprised not. Because it is written, in the Constitution.
The unhappy Hillary-supporting losers of the 2016 election will never get over their blind rage and hatred of Trump for crushing her in that election. The sore losers hope to slander and falsely accuse Trump into defeat in 2020 but their strategy does not seem to be working with the majority of the American people.
There's just no defending Trump is there, as we know well over here.
The Putin-Trump Rowers are suddenly springing leaks throughout their boat.
Reading the link in the OP we see it's the Russians that will have to save you guys. You gotta make it past the 12 mile limit first however and that doesn't look good for Trump either. A sailor long ago was asked how he got shipwrecked and he said slowly then suddenly.
I don't hear ordinary Marines active duty and on their own time or as veterans criticizing Trump's caveman demeanor. This is despite the Corps having a strict code of order, demeanor, discipline, dignity, honor. Indeed, Marines seem to have no problem with a caveman dwelling in the White House and thumping his club from coast to coast. They rather like it in fact.
Neither do Marines active duty but on their own time or as veterans criticize Trump's decisions as potus or c'n c. It seems too that ordinary Marines and the veterans of The Crotch seem never to have heard of Russia or Putin and Nato.
Marines are Marines first and forever which means to look out for the Corps as if it were its own sovereign entity and superior to everything else. It's the same attitude as Trump has about Him Self.
Hey, look.
A post full of hyperbole and lies.
Who is James Mattis? In which branch did he serve?
And how would you, a civilian, in China, know about what the rank and file Marines understand vis a vis Trump and Putin?
The unhappy Hillary-supporting losers of the 2016 election will never get over their blind rage and hatred of Trump for crushing her in that election. The sore losers hope to slander and falsely accuse Trump into defeat in 2020 but their strategy does not seem to be working with the majority of the American people.
This article is weird given that Trump has been stating that we would be leaving Syria for three years now. How much advanced notice does a General need to withdraw 50 to 100 troops? :roll:.
Thought we weren’t supposed to let our enemies know our plans? Funny how you cons do a complete 180 depending on who is president.
There's just no defending Trump is there, as we know well over here.
The Putin-Trump Rowers are suddenly springing leaks throughout their boat.
Reading the link in the OP we see it's the Russians that will have to save you guys. You gotta make it past the 12 mile limit first however and that doesn't look good for Trump either. A sailor long ago was asked how he got shipwrecked and he said slowly then suddenly.
I scanned the article quickly so I may have missed it, but does the article identify any of those "top military officers" by name or position? Or identify whether they're active duty or just retired "call me for a ****-storm on Trump quote" types?I didn't know if this belongs in MSM or non-MSM, so I'm playing it safe.
[h=1]Top Military Officers Unload on Trump[/h]Military officers are sworn to serve whomever voters send to the White House. Cognizant of the special authority they hold, high-level officers epitomize respect for the chain of command, and are extremely reticent about criticizing their civilian overseers. That those I spoke with made an exception in Trump’s case is telling, and much of what they told me is deeply disturbing. In 20 years of writing about the military, I have never heard officers in high positions express such alarm about a president. Trump’s pronouncements and orders have already risked catastrophic and unnecessary wars in the Middle East and Asia, and have created severe problems for field commanders engaged in combat operations. Frequently caught unawares by Trump’s statements, senior military officers have scrambled, in their aftermath, to steer the country away from tragedy. How many times can they successfully do that before faltering?
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Our modern officer corps are trained to have sophistication and intelligence. In case you're wondering, they despise Trump, who has neither.
The article is a good read.
Every other democrat false accusation based upon democrat lies has turned to dust. This latest fake whistleblower complaint and silly partisan military clic will also, likely in record time.
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