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Top Iranian official says Tehran would forgo highly enriched uranium in nuclear deal with Trump

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There are signs, however, that Trump may be distancing himself from Netanyahu. NBC News previously reported that, according to two U.S. officials, two Middle Eastern diplomats and two other people with knowledge of the tensions, the two leaders are increasingly at odds over a strategy for tackling challenges in the region, including Iran.

While Netanyahu has supported military action against Iran’s nuclear facilities, Trump has begun to see an opportunity to remove the threat of Iran acquiring a nuclear weapon by making a deal with the government, the sources said.

Slow down Iran , add them to the world economy AND give Netanyahu the cold shoulder?

That would make many people big mad. Not sure he'll do it
 
Ah, stabbing the Israeli and American Zionists in the back. With that out of the way, there will be no one left for Donald Trump to betray.
 



Slow down Iran , add them to the world economy AND give Netanyahu the cold shoulder?

That would make many people big mad. Not sure he'll do it
Is this different from the deal Trump tore up in his last administration?
 
If Trunp wants to reinstate Obama's nuclear deal with Iran, change a few words, and call it a big beautiful new Trump deal...I'll take it. Let's do it.
He tore up the TPP, and NAFTA, then got basically the same deal with Canada that Obama negotiated under the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
 
Is this different from the deal Trump tore up in his last administration?
"He said Iran would commit to never making nuclear weapons, getting rid of its stockpiles of highly enriched uranium which can be weaponized, agree to enrich uranium only to the lower levels needed for civilian use, and allow international inspectors to supervise the process, in exchange for the immediate lifting of all economic sanctions on Iran."

Yes, that would be very different.
 
Is this different from the deal Trump tore up in his last administration?
Hard to say until a final draft is made, but it seems likely both in scope and detail there will be some changes.

If we wanted the same deal we would have had it under Biden when Iran offered to come into compliance if Biden re entered the deal. Biden declined, so I don't see why either side would go for that.

But maybe it will be identical, they'll just copy and paste and change the dates. If so, that would be pretty good too.
 
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"He said Iran would commit to never making nuclear weapons, getting rid of its stockpiles of highly enriched uranium which can be weaponized, agree to enrich uranium only to the lower levels needed for civilian use, and allow international inspectors to supervise the process, in exchange for the immediate lifting of all economic sanctions on Iran."

Yes, that would be very different.
How? That's the deal Trump tore up.
 
How? That's the deal Trump tore up.
lol. That's a long way from the deal Trump tore up. It limited some activities, allowing Iran to build up it's capabilities, with restrictions starting to roll off in 2025 - and deal over in 2030. It also had limitations on inspections that made effective monitoring difficult to impossible. Worth noting that they started going though the various caps before the US pulled out, and before they themselves actually withdrew.

'never making nuclear weapons or enriching beyond low levels' is a world of difference, not to mention actual monitoring of the efforts. And we don't have to drop off pallets of cash.

Keep in mind that this is Iran's first proposal - not what we negotiated them to.
 



Slow down Iran , add them to the world economy AND give Netanyahu the cold shoulder?

That would make many people big mad. Not sure he'll do it
I’m gonna laugh my ass if Trump and the Iranians reach a deal that’s identical to the one Obama did. It would reinforce a popular observation, which is that Trump creates a problem and then gets credit for “solving” it.

Ever heard the saying, “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”? Apparently Trump’s version is, “If it ain’t broke, break it and then ‘fix’ it.”

Mark
 
lol. That's a long way from the deal Trump tore up. It limited some activities, allowing Iran to build up it's capabilities, with restrictions starting to roll off in 2025 - and deal over in 2030. It also had limitations on inspections that made effective monitoring difficult to impossible. Worth noting that they started going though the various caps before the US pulled out, and before they themselves actually withdrew.

'never making nuclear weapons or enriching beyond low levels' is a world of difference, not to mention actual monitoring of the efforts. And we don't have to drop off pallets of cash.

Keep in mind that this is Iran's first proposal - not what we negotiated them to.
This...

"He said Iran would commit to never making nuclear weapons, getting rid of its stockpiles of highly enriched uranium which can be weaponized, agree to enrich uranium only to the lower levels needed for civilian use, and allow international inspectors to supervise the process, in exchange for the immediate lifting of all economic sanctions on Iran."

Is exactly the same as this...

"Over 15 years, Iran would reduce its stockpile of low-enriched uranium by 97%, from 10,000 kg to 300 kg, and limit enrichment to 3.67%, sufficient for civilian nuclear power and research, but not for weaponry."
"The IAEA was to have multilayered oversight "over Iran's entire nuclear supply chain, from uranium mills to its procurement of nuclear-related technologies". For sites such as Fordow and Natanz, the IAEA was to have 24-hour access to nuclear facilities and to maintain continuous monitoring (including via surveillance equipment)."

Except for the time limit, it's the same deal.
As for your pallet loads of cash, that money belonged to Iran. Republican criminals might steal that money, but only Republican criminals.
 
This...


"Over 15 years, Iran would reduce its stockpile of low-enriched uranium by 97%, from 10,000 kg to 300 kg, and limit enrichment to 3.67%, sufficient for civilian nuclear power and research, but not for weaponry."
"The IAEA was to have multilayered oversight "over Iran's entire nuclear supply chain, from uranium mills to its procurement of nuclear-related technologies". For sites such as Fordow and Natanz, the IAEA was to have 24-hour access to nuclear facilities and to maintain continuous monitoring (including via surveillance equipment)."

Except for the time limit, it's the same deal.
Wait, So under the previous deal Iran would have been allowed to enrich uranium and begin working towards a bomb THIS YEAR!

And a further deal would stop them from that?

I had no idea this was such a big deal.
 
This...

"He said Iran would commit to never making nuclear weapons, getting rid of its stockpiles of highly enriched uranium which can be weaponized, agree to enrich uranium only to the lower levels needed for civilian use, and allow international inspectors to supervise the process, in exchange for the immediate lifting of all economic sanctions on Iran."

Is exactly the same as this...

"Over 15 years, Iran would reduce its stockpile of low-enriched uranium by 97%, from 10,000 kg to 300 kg, and limit enrichment to 3.67%, sufficient for civilian nuclear power and research, but not for weaponry."
"The IAEA was to have multilayered oversight "over Iran's entire nuclear supply chain, from uranium mills to its procurement of nuclear-related technologies". For sites such as Fordow and Natanz, the IAEA was to have 24-hour access to nuclear facilities and to maintain continuous monitoring (including via surveillance equipment)."

Except for the time limit, it's the same deal.
The time limit and phase out is a big difference. Noting again, Iran blew through caps as soon as they were ready. The lack of a phase out, and stronger verification and monitoring (even at the starting point) is very different.

As for your pallet loads of cash, that money belonged to Iran. [deflection removed]
To Iran, but not necessarily the people it was handed over to. It was handed over in pallets of cash, for the people in power to use for what they want. It would have made more sense to work out a tracible measures to ensure it actually was spent for the benefit of the country.
 
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