Actually, the question is challenging whether one believes physical requirements exist amidst the void of empty space or dark matter to allow intelligence which is non-biological and, as speculated by some, an omniscient cognizant mind.rathi said:Uh to simplify your post , you are asking which seems more natural
Are rocks made by combining lots of sand?
or
Is sand made by breaking lots of rocks?
Monk-Eye said:"Top Down Or Bottom Up? Which Is More Intuitive?"
A computer chip has a collection of parts, individually none function as a processor of logic. Moreover, without specific physical assimilations, cognition as sophisticated selection does not exist.
Monk-Eye said:The "bottom up" paradigm allows an omnipresent (infinte miniscule parts) as an eternal fundamental basis
Monk-Eye said:for structure and design that facilitates the mechanical, methodical account of cause and effect and intelligible order, but does so without consciousness.
Monk-Eye said:Moreover consciousness is derived through specific physical assimilations and their integrated sophistication.
Monk-Eye said:The classic idea of creation begins with emanation from and eternal onmiscient, omnipotent, omnipresent or, what could be termed a "top down" paradigm.
Monk-Eye said:A genetic character of an eternal is that it must be and become and that which is exists emulates that property.
Monk-Eye said:By the anthropic principle,
Monk-Eye said:since sophistication of being for facility to become exists,
Monk-Eye said:one may attempt to convince itself that since cognition exists in the physical, then the eternal basis must therefore have cognition.
Monk-Eye said:Yet, without specific physical assimilations, cognition as sophisticated selection does not exist.
Monk-Eye said:Under the presumption of philosophical naturalism.
Monk-Eye said:In a "top down" paradigm, a physical provision would need to exist apriori making consciousness possible amidst infinite disjoint, unassimilated parts presumed by the "bottom up" paradigm.
Monk-Eye said:Thus is the "bottom up" or "top down" paradigm more intuitive?
Here is a link to adnoun.MrFungus420 said:A couple of points here. First of all, "omnipresent" is an adjective, not a noun. In order to make any sense whatsoever we have to know what is omnipresent, in other words, you need a noun to make a complete sentence here.
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You can ramble as much as you want to, but this is still not a sentence. There is still no subject in it.
You are asserting that the composite whole is not present everywhere simultaneously? It if is not, what is? An assumption is being made that the interaction of the individual parts provides a summative accountability (open or closed?).MrFungus420 said:Secondly, omnipresent does not mean "infinite miniscule parts", it means present everywhere simultaneously.
There is an entire world of AI. When two competing algorithms based on probabilty decision exist in the same system with what certainty will you rule out self awareness?MrFungus420 said:As a mental process it only occurs in something with a mind. Further, no computer chip, or computer, for that matter, has awareness, reasoning, judgement or intuition.
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Amazing, you know what causes consciousness. Maybe you should let the scientific community in on your little secret. I can pretty much guarantee you a Nobel Prize.
An eternal must be and become, "I am, That I am", it is an innate property; that is what it does. Emulation of that property is a consequence of being intrinsic to an eternal entity.MrFungus420 said:And pure semantic codswallop...Monk-Eye said:A genetic character of an eternal is that it must be and become and that which is exists emulates that property.
Somewhat, but no; it is meant as in this anthropic link. In short, cognizant beings exist ergo the foundation for existence has provisions for cognizant beings. This as opposed to cognizant beings exist therefore the foundation of existence is cognizant.MrFungus420 said:Anthropic: relating to humans.
Actually, the question is challenging whether one believes physical requirements exist amidst the void of empty space or dark matter to allow intelligence which is non-biological and, as speculated by some, an omniscient cognizant mind.
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