Top 5 failed socialist promises: From Lenin to Chavez

[American]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/top-5-failed-socialist-promises-from-lenin-to-chavez

Politicians of all stripes make big promises to get into office – but some of the most extravagant promises of the last century have come from socialist politicians pledging to reshape society as a utopia for all.




As socialist ideas enjoy somewhat of a resurgence among young Democratic lawmakers and their liberal base in the U.S., and troubled nations such as Venezuela and North Korea reel from the fallout tied to socialist policies, Fox News took a look back at some of the biggest promises of the movement and how they turned out.

Interesting article as a jump off point, to see how socialism's defenders spin the facts.

 

[OlNate]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/top-5-failed-socialist-promises-from-lenin-to-chavez


Interesting article as a jump off point, to see how socialism's defenders spin the facts.

Meh:

https://www.news24.com/MyNews24/cap...-socialism-is-the-viable-alternative-20170807

 

[Kobie]

Anyone who considers North Korea an actual “socialist” state is not worth listening to.

 

[bongsaway]

Anyone who considers North Korea an actual “socialist” state is not worth listening to.

The right I'm noticing seems to be here just to agitate liberals, their favorite pastime.


I asked the other day, republicans name two things you would like to see included in the platform of the GOP for 2020. Zero answers.

 

[Lutherf]

Socialism is the promise that government can do for you what you can not do for yourself. It generally ignores that, perhaps, you CAN do a lot of what it promises you on your own. The more it tamps down the idea of self-sufficiency the more it moves toward Communism.

 

[Mycroft]

Socialism is the promise that government can do for you what you can not do for yourself. It generally ignores that, perhaps, you CAN do a lot of what it promises you on your own. The more it tamps down the idea of self-sufficiency the more it moves toward Communism.

It's worse than that.

Socialism says that the government WILL do for you...whether you can do it yourself or not or whether you want them to.

 

[Lutherf]

It's worse than that.

Socialism says that the government WILL do for you...whether you can do it yourself or not or whether you want them to.

It gets there eventually...and inevitably.

A socialist government needs the agreement of the people to stay in power. The easiest way to get that agreement is to keep offering the people "help". If the people start to feel like they don't need "help" there needs to be a little encouragement to get them to change their mind. For example, if your country happens to be attacked by terrorists the government immediately cites a "need" to nationalize airport security and combine intelligence services under one cabinet head. Eventually a majority of the people not only start to believe that the government is helping but also begin to believe that they have always needed that help and can no longer survive without it.

I've got a cousin and some family friends in the UK. We've talked Brexit on and off over the past year or so. It's absolutely amazing to me how they are so concerned and so convinced of catastrophe if the UK leaves the EU. I remind them that the EU didn't even exist 25 years ago and that the UK managed fine then. To them it's like there was no UK prior to 2007 or, perhaps, even before the 90's. Ideas of independence as a nation are simply gone and the concept of independence as individuals is waning. When even more constraints on daily life are proposed they hardly protest at all because now it's all "for the public good". This is the direction we're heading here.

 

[Mr Person]

Socialism is the promise that government can do for you what you can not do for yourself. It generally ignores that, perhaps, you CAN do a lot of what it promises you on your own. The more it tamps down the idea of self-sufficiency the more it moves toward Communism.

As usual, those who have no clue what "socialism" actually is complain the loudest about it.