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kal-el said:Is calling someone a liar an insult, or is it correctly identifying their behavior?
Numerous times in these forums, I have called people that spit out false information dishonest, or sometimes liars. IMO if someone blatanly spouts off false claims, and they know they are false, I almost always call them on it. The definition of a lie is:
Lie (noun)
1.a false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.
2.Something meant to deceive or give the wrong impression
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=lie
Caine said:The color of this text is Pink.
Its true! Because im a Political Science Student and I say so.
kal-el said:Is calling someone a liar an insult, or is it correctly identifying their behavior?
Numerous times in these forums, I have called people that spit out false information dishonest, or sometimes liars. IMO if someone blatanly spouts off false claims, and they know they are false, I almost always call them on it. The definition of a lie is:
Lie (noun)
1.a false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.
2.Something meant to deceive or give the wrong impression
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=lie
cnredd said:LYING - Although there is no official rule against lying, doing so will kill your credibility and respect. If you make a statement that you say is documented, you'd better have the goods to back it up.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/showpost.php?p=170170&postcount=2
Stace said:If someone KNOWS that what they are posting is false, and they are trying to pass it off as proven fact, then yes, they're a liar, and it's not necessarily an insult, because that's what they're doing.
Now, if they say something that is false (meaning that it can be proven otherwise), but aren't trying to pass the statement off as anything other than their own opinion, it'd be an insult to call them a liar, because they weren't doing it deliberately. And since they didn't intend to deceive anyone, it's not really a lie.
kal-el said:Yes, in the case that they know what they spit out is false, it is definetly concious lying, and I shouldn't get chastized for it.
I see what you are saying here, but what if they actually believe the lie is true, and pass it off as fact. Is that considered belittleing them calling them such?
Stace said:If they actually believe what they are saying, it's simply a matter of pointing them in the right direction of the actual truth. If they're trying to pass it off as fact, ask for a source.....Nine times out of ten, they won't be able to give you one. And at that point, I'd just tell them they're wrong, and point them to a source that proves they're wrong, and then go about my merry way. :mrgreen:
kal-el said:So, if someone makes an asinine, wild, claim, you're saying I should first ask for proof, gotcha. But if they cannot provide proof, I'll be sure to call them a liar.:2razz:
kal-el said:So, if someone makes an asinine, wild, claim, you're saying I should first ask for proof, gotcha. But if they cannot provide proof, I'll be sure to call them a liar.:2razz:
What's even worse sometimes?...When they DO find sources...Stace said:You do whatever you want...that's just the way I work. I like watching people squirm when they can't find sources to back up their claims :doh
It depends.kal-el said:Yes, but my question is, is calling someone on their blatant falsehoods either dishonest, or a liar, attacking someone?
It'd be just noise if you didn't back up your statement [that the other person is a liar].kal-el said:I would think in most cases, it just is describing their characteristics, especially if they don't back up their statements.
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