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Tom Cotton believes one of the major problems facing America is that we don't imprison enough of our people

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You have any evidence he has done so?

As long as we have crime we need prison cells for those who commit those crimes.
Dio you want to discuss the use of the court system to enforce racist social policies? Did you vote for Tom Cotton? -

  • In a two year period in the U.S. state of Maryland, blacks constituted 79.2 percent of the drivers stopped and searched by the police on Interstate 95, even though they constituted only 17.5 percent of the drivers who were violating traffic laws.2
  • The war on drugs in the U.S. is waged overwhelmingly against black Americans. For example, although there are more white drug offenders than black in the United States, blacks constitute 62.7 percent of all drug offenders sent to state prison and black men are sent to prison on drug charges at 13.4 times the rate of white men.3


Race influences death penalty decisions.


  • A study of the federal death penalty by the U.S. Department of Justice released in September, 2000 found 80 percent of federal defendants who faced capital charges were members of racial minorities, as were 74 percent of convicted defendants for whom prosecutors recommended the death penalty.5
  • The death penalty is also more likely to be sought and imposed in the U.S. for killing a white person than a person of a different race: 82 percent of capital cases involve a white victim, although nationwide only 50% percent of homicide victims are white.6

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Nineteen years ago, in 1991, a study was released by the 17-member New York State Judicial Commission on Minorities. The report’s panel comprised judges, law professors, lawyers, a Surrogate’s Court clerk, and an official from the State Education Department. It made dozens of recommendations, including cross-cultural sensitivity training for judges and other court workers. Chief Judge Sol Wachtler of the New York Court of Appeals praised the report, while it was criticized by some of its own panel members and members of the union that represented court employees.

The crux of the report was that whites often fare better than blacks or people of color in the same circumstances—particularly as plaintiffs in civil cases.

“It is not pleasant to talk about the need for a court system that is treating everyone equally and the conclusion that our current system is not,” said Cyrus R. Vance, then a commission member and former US Secretary of State (and also the father of Cyrus Vance, Jr, the current attorney general of New York). “That’s a terrible condemnation of our society.”

Fast forward to today. We have protests in every state and countries worldwide, calling for justice for Black peoples and other people of color. That justice will be meted out by court systems that, in many cases, are not known for being truly just. Some who sit in judgment in those court systems are reacting and responding to the voices of protest. Some are speaking out themselves, and some remain silent or let their actions from the bench speak for them.
 

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If your prison system and society has evolved in such a way that certain categories of people are for more likely to get arrested/imprisoned for the same acts as other categories of people, and the certain categories of people also tend to vote Democrat....

....and you're Tom ****ing Cotton....

...then yes, you might see a very good reason to become even more of a prison state.
Really. Does that include homicide as well?
Blacks make up 13 percent of the population and according to the bureau of justice statistics, black offenders committed 52 percent of homicides recorded in the data between 1980 and 2008. 45% of the offenders were white.
But as we all know, whites are being released from prison when they commit murder, unlike black offenders.

Biden good and so is his 1994 crime bill. Right?
Orangeman bad and so is his criminal justice reform bill. Right?


That Republican Hunter Biden, who lied on his gun permit application, should have gone to jail. If he were a democrat, he would be in jail.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/opin...ground-check-prosecutions-20180914-story.html
 

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It really bothers you that America's cities aren't even more violent and unlivable, doesn't it?
Obviously we need more people in jails. And if we jail them in our cities, instead of God-forsaken rural areas as we currently do, we could provide jobs to our criminals' relatives in those cities. Our large prison population is a sign of our society's success, after all. That and the fact that we are the only developed democratic nation that still executes people make us the envy of the world.
 

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If you think the people in prison dont belong there, perhaps you will open up your home to a couple of them.
Got to love the 'libertarian' cheering a BIGGER police state. Especially that part that we filled the prisons up with those charged with drug crimes.
 
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Wonder how much $$ Cotton gets from the incarceration industry.
 

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Fascists gotta Fascist.
 

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Obviously we need more people in jails. And if we jail them in our cities, instead of God-forsaken rural areas as we currently do, we could provide jobs to our criminals' relatives in those cities. Our large prison population is a sign of our society's success, after all. That and the fact that we are the only developed democratic nation that still executes people make us the envy of the world.
Japan still executes criminals
 

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Dio you want to discuss the use of the court system to enforce racist social policies? Did you vote for Tom Cotton? -
More than once. And I will again.
 

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What evidence do you have that he gets any?
What evidence do you have that he doesn't? I have no idea if he does or doesn't but he is wrong...as usual.
 
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What evidence do you have that he doesn't?
You made a claim, you are obligated to provide evidence to support that claim. I'm not obligated to prove a negative.

Read something about the traditional rules of debate.
 

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It's kind of difficult to say what world Senator Cotton lives in if he honestly believes America has an "under incarceration" problem on it's hands. We are roughly 4.2% of the world population, but have more than 20% of the total prisoners. Perhaps this goes back to the Republican line of thinking that the main issue with gun violence is that we need more guns? Of course, we are also talking about a man who wanted to deploy the military on people protesting for racial justice last summer, so I guess he is being consistent, if nothing else.

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Whether at home or abroad, imagine if America put as much effort into fixing the causes of our problems as we do looking for more violent, backwards thinking solutions to "solve" them that never actually work and end up creating even more headaches.
I agree with him but not for reasons either Cottonor you would care for. I for one believe the justice system needs to be better funded at all levels so that everybody, no matter their social grouping, is subject to the same harsh, exacting laws. This goes for holding the heads and board members of major corporations criminally liable for acts of malfeasance that they pursue. I cannot imagine how many federal criminal statutes Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, or the heads of Uber, Monsanto-Bayer or Goldman Sachs could be charged with if the Federal government were of a mind to prosecute them. But I think if a thorough investigation were conducted and charges were pursued with the same zeal for their violations that we charge drug traffickers and child pornographers with, they would likely never see a day outside of a Federal penitentiary for the rest of their lives.
 

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Given that 44% return to jail in their first year out......yeah.

Can't shoot em, and can't eat em.
Why you are such a humanitarian, aren't you? Have you ever read Jonathan Swift?


The 44% re-offense rate is strong proof that the rehabilitation system is not working and needs to be severely overhauled so half of the former convicts don't return.
 

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Why you are such a humanitarian, aren't you? Have you ever read Jonathan Swift?


The 44% re-offense rate is strong proof that the rehabilitation system is not working and needs to be severely overhauled so half of the former convicts don't return.
Some people are just animalistic & evil no matter how hard you try to reach them.

Hard fact.

I'd just as soon they keep them locked up.
 

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Some people are just animalistic & evil no matter how hard you try to reach them.

Hard fact.

I'd just as soon they keep them locked up.
Thee US doesn't try to rehabilitate people. Our prison system is far more interested in punishment than treatment. They make more money for private prisons when they re-offend, so there is a financial incentive to not rehabilitate people. That costs us millions more in taxes for the prison system that could be more productively spent elsewhere.
 

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Thee US doesn't try to rehabilitate people. Our prison system is far more interested in punishment than treatment. They make more money for private prisons when they re-offend, so there is a financial incentive to not rehabilitate people. That costs us millions more in taxes for the prison system that could be more productively spent elsewhere.
That is Bullcrap.

There are 2.12 million prisoners across the country.

Only 8.1% of them are in privately run prisons.
 

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That is Bullcrap.

There are 2.12 million prisoners across the country.

Only 8.1% of them are in privately run prisons.

I. Overview

The United States has the world’s largest private prison population. Of the 1.5 million people in state and federal prisons in 2016, 8.5 percent, or 128,063, were incarcerated in private prisons.1) Another 26,249 people -73 percent of all people in immigration detention- were confined in privately-run facilities on a daily basis during fiscal year 2017.2)


From 2000 to 2016 the number of people housed in private prisons increased five times faster than the total prison population. Over a similar timeframe, the proportion of people detained in private immigration facilities increased by 442 percent.
 

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Sorry, but 8.1% doesn't upset me very much.

You have a Vice President who tried to keep prisoners from parole just for their cheap labor, and a President who bragged about getting predators off the streets for years.

You voted for them anyways, so don't hand me this hypocritical nonsense.
 

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Sorry, but 8.1% doesn't upset me very much.

You have a Vice President who tried to keep prisoners from parole just for their cheap labor, and a President who bragged about getting predators off the streets for years.

You voted for them anyways, so don't hand me this hypocritical nonsense.
The other option was Donald Trump, so I mean...
 

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It's kind of difficult to say what world Senator Cotton lives in if he honestly believes America has an "under incarceration" problem on it's hands. We are roughly 4.2% of the world population, but have more than 20% of the total prisoners. Perhaps this goes back to the Republican line of thinking that the main issue with gun violence is that we need more guns? Of course, we are also talking about a man who wanted to deploy the military on people protesting for racial justice last summer, so I guess he is being consistent, if nothing else.

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Whether at home or abroad, imagine if America put as much effort into fixing the causes of our problems as we do looking for more violent, backwards thinking solutions to "solve" them that never actually work and end up creating even more headaches.
the man is certifiable. If a lot of the money spent on warehousing people to make them more hardened criminals was spent on preventing them falling into crime and giving appropriate sentences rather than politically "correct" punishments, there would be a lot less prisons and even the crime rate would fall.
 

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The other option was Donald Trump, so I mean...
I never voted for Trump either, but his prison reform bill was a good first step

He was kinder to prisoners than your current President & VP.


Did Biden or Harris ever come up with anything close to this......................no!
 

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Got to love the 'libertarian' cheering a BIGGER police state. Especially that part that we filled the prisons up with those charged with drug crimes.
I didnt cheer anything. But you gotta love the leftist lying rather than making an honest post.
 

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BS.

Your current president bragged about getting "predators" off the streets.
And the previous one called for the execution of five innocent black youths.
 
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