- Joined
- Jun 8, 2012
- Messages
- 19,500
- Reaction score
- 5,458
- Location
- Wokingham, England
- Gender
- Undisclosed
- Political Leaning
- Undisclosed
So you don't care about children being safe as long as your political agenda is served. Got it.Why is putting your child at an entirely unnecessary additional risk irrelevant ? It all boils down to the fact that guns make intentional or accidental killings far too easy and your stats bear this out.
So you don't care about children being safe as long as your political agenda is served. Got it.
Well, I have a gun, but I keep it stored and unloaded and ammunition separate, um, someone call me a lefty now.
I speak agaist carrying a gun in a purse so your question doesn't apply to me. I support vigerous prosecution of people who let prohibited persons have access to their gun, I support a safe storage law and I argue that your gun should either be on your person or unloaded and locked.I have no political agenda I merely asked you why putting your children at an additional and unnecessary risk was acceptable to you ?
Yes, guns are weapons....what's your point? I carry a small caliber hangun for the sole and express purpose of killing a human being should the need arise. I'm not seeing your point.Guns are weapons -- period. Someone is going to get hurt. Happens each and every day. The love of guns has consequences.
I speak agaist carrying a gun in a purse so your question doesn't apply to me. I support vigerous prosecution of people who let prohibited persons have access to their gun, I support a safe storage law and I argue that your gun should either be on your person or unloaded and locked.
You people want to use stories like this as excuse to ban guns. To just ban things is a purly anti-American mode of thought. We don't do that here. We don't ban computers because of internet bullying or child porn. We don't ban alcohol or driving just because of drunk drivers. We prosecute people who abuse freedoms, not ban freedoms.
Indeed many "gun owners" don't own a firearm for self defence, and even fewer choose to regulerly carry a handgun for the same. It remains a right, however. The solution to negligence or abuse is prosecution, not a ban.Freedom to intentionally kill far more easily is a freedom few would choose to indulge.
That's exactly why I carry a gun.The human condition is too unpredictable for that to be warranted and your own horrendous statistics make that point far better than I could
An nuclear warhead is an inanimate object too so shouild we just let everyone have one of those ?
Guns are weapons -- period. Someone is going to get hurt. Happens each and every day. The love of guns has consequences.
I have no political agenda
I merely asked you why putting your children at an additional and unnecessary risk was acceptable to you ?
Are saying a gun is as dangerous as a nuclear weapon? Weren't you in a military or something?
The only children at risk are the ones being raised by morons. My kids won't be at risk. I wasn't at risk. Seriously. Do you not understand how guns work?
Just making the point that all weapons are inanimate objects minus humans. Its the inherent lethality when combined that matters, which is why I earlier posed the question '
who would need or want an AR15 or AK47 in their lives ?
I used to use the 7.62mm Belgian FN SLR in my service and never once did it cross my mind that having such a weapon anywhere near my family would be a good idea. Having seen what it could do quite the opposite in fact
I don't doubt that 99% of parents of children killed or injured by firearms kept in the home have said the very same thing
Btw I hope you don't own a pool. Man you might as well give your family a bomb and the detonator.
And I don't doubt they are morons.
Guns are weapons -- period. Someone is going to get hurt. Happens each and every day. The love of guns has consequences.
And the point you chose to miss is that all weapons are inanimate objects. Its the potential lethality of the weapon once in human hands that matters
Exactly the same with cars. And the accidental (lethal) misuse of cars is much much higher.
Doh. WAT? you had a point?
Can you explain any major distinctions when it comes to safety?
Leave the keys to YOUR CAR in the ignition parked on a street sometime, and let us all know how it works out.
or, better yet,
leave your loaded gun in your purse lying around with children in a room, turn away, go do something in another room,
let us know if that works out too.
So it's about the user, correct? Neither acts on it's own. And both are dangerous if accessible to others (in purse, on street with keys in).
You didnt make your point. I think you made mine.
You ever live In a truly rural area? Kids are working on the farm and as ranch hands and often do have access to a firearm. No big deal. My father was given a shotgun at age 9 and allowed to blow crows out of their garden with it... Not that uncommon at all if you ever set foot a hundred miles from nowhereWell I don't doubt that many must be frankly given the facts
A study of firearm storage patterns in U.S. homes found that “of the homes with children and firearms, 55% were reported to have 1 or more firearms in an unlocked place,” and 43% reported keeping guns without a trigger lock in an unlocked place A 2005 study on adult firearm storage practices in U.S. homes found that over 1.69 million children and youth under age 18 are living in homes with loaded and unlocked firearms In addition, 73% of children under age 10 living in homes with guns reported knowing the location of their parents’ firearms
Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence
Its nothing like 'exactly the same' How many people deliberately murder using cars ! :roll:
Well I don't doubt that many must be frankly given the facts
A study of firearm storage patterns in U.S. homes found that “of the homes with children and firearms, 55% were reported to have 1 or more firearms in an unlocked place,” and 43% reported keeping guns without a trigger lock in an unlocked place A 2005 study on adult firearm storage practices in U.S. homes found that over 1.69 million children and youth under age 18 are living in homes with loaded and unlocked firearms In addition, 73% of children under age 10 living in homes with guns reported knowing the location of their parents’ firearms
Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence
And the point you chose to miss is that all weapons are inanimate objects. Its the potential lethality of the weapon once in human hands that matters
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?