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To Dems: "Impeach him!"

Should the Democratic Congress begin investigations for impeachment of the President?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 9 33.3%

  • No.

    Votes: 18 66.7%
  • Total voters
    27

Billo_Really

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The majority of Americans have made it clear they resent the carnege at home and abroad being done in our name. We want this country to return to greatness as the leader of the free world. We cannot achieve this goal as long as exceptions and excuses are made for the conduct of this criminal Administration. No other President in history has deserved to be impeached more than George W. Bush. The American people demand accountability.

The Democrats were voted into office this past election to bring accountability to this government and restore our good name. As Bob Dylan once said, "if your not going to be part of the solution, then your part of the problem". If you do not commence with impeachment hearings when Congress re-convenes, you will all be voted out of office in the next election. If you think I'm overexaggerating, then you do not realize the dissatisfaction the American people have with the direction this country is going.

I am sick of what this neocon agenda has done to this country.

Democratic members of Congress, do what you were hired to do
.........fire him! Then put him in jail!
 
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poor hateful dems. trying to get even for clinton's stained legacy. I hope the dems try-it will show they are angy children not ready to rule. It will also doom the dems to permanent minority status starting in 09.
 
Orignally posted by Turtledude:
poor hateful dems. trying to get even for clinton's stained legacy. I hope the dems try-it will show they are angy children not ready to rule. It will also doom the dems to permanent minority status starting in 09.
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It will doom 'em if they don't.

Dare I say it.

I can't resist.

The Dems are doomed if they do, and doomed if they don't!
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Billo_Really said:
It will doom 'em if they don't.

Dare I say it.

I can't resist.
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I wish total and complete doom on the dembats. its a disease that we need to vaccinate against :mrgreen:
 
Orignally posted by Turtledude:
I wish total and complete doom on the dembats. its a disease that we need to vaccinate against
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If they don't start hearings on the legality of this war, in the next election, you and I will be on the same side.

Do you want to have that on your concience?
 
Prez Bush will probablly go down in history as the greatest to date! What would one impeach him for?

I also would like to see VP Chenny in action but I just have nothing but total admiration for Prez Bush with exception of his stance on illegal Mexicans.
 
I think we all saw the effects of pointless impeachment when the republicans did it to Clinton. He was weakened severely by it, and I dont think this country can afford to do such a thing at this time.
 
Doesn't matter... any sort of "moral high ground" the democrats thought they had by being elected was ruined by Pelosi going crony and trying to push John "Porker" Murtha into power, and any sort of "corruption" is being ruined by her push to put the impeached and "de-judged" Hastings into House Intel Committee.

Dems are too smart to try and impeach bush for Iraq, because they all would only expose their own hipocrisy for saying the exact same thing since 1998 onward.
 
Your proud of this?



And this?



And this?

Yeah, that's something to be proud of.
 
Topsez said:
Prez Bush will probablly go down in history as the greatest to date! What would one impeach him for?
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It is ridiculous to contemplate impeachment but GWB the greatest in history? Surely you jest,he will go down in history alright but he will not even make the top ten list.
 
Sorry, billo. Pelosi and Reid have already come out and said they will not investigate or bring imeachment proceedings. Why? Because there is nothing to to impeach him for. There isn't an offense called Impeach Bush Because Billo Hates Him. Even thought the Dems ran on it, it's not going to happen. How does it feel to have been lied to?
 
Warn me before you post, so I have time to pull up my pant legs.
I don't want to get them dirty.

There are many things to impeach him on:
  • Starting a war before receiving authorization from Congress
  • Lying to the nation during his inauguration when he stated he would defend the Constitution
  • Launching an un-provoked attack on a sovereign nation in violation of our Constitution
  • Doing things you admire
I don't want this crap being done in my name. That's what I think is obscene. But I understand your position. You believe genocide is okay, as long as we are polite about it and don't cus. To you, it is perfectly alright to kill almost 3000 Americans and 665,000 Iraqis because of faulty intelligence. All those deaths are perfectly acceptable in your book as long as we don't use profanity.
 
I think Richard Dreyfuss makes a very good point about impeaching the president. If we do not take any actions to rebuke Bush for misleading us into an unnecessary, pre-emptive war against a non-threat and the subsequently immoral/illegal way we went about doing things, we are tacitly condoning his actions and setting a dangerous precedent for his successors. While impeaching him and throwing him in jail might not fix anything (and a President Cheney could probably make things worse) it will show the world that we’ve learned from our mistakes and any future presidents will have to think twice before aggrandizing a benign tumor and recklessly throwing us into a war that seems to greatly benefit his close colleagues at great expense to the American people. Not to mention that the principle behind these reasons seems to conform to a standard much higher than that set in place from the last presidential impeachment.
 
Bush certainly deserves to be impeached...more so than any other president.

The republicans hounded Clinton during his last years in office, for a legal, consensual indiscretion. And what was the result of this hounding?

The republicans gained the White House.

I think if the dems hold hearings and further embarass Bush it will only lead to the repubs losing the White House in '08. There are still people out there that do not know how corrupt this administration has been.

As much as I would love to see Bush impeached, maybe the Dems should simply concentrate on cleaning up the mess left behind? Maybe the Dems should show the world that they are better than the neo-cons, and work to correct the mistakes and mismanagement of the Bush administration, rather than seek political revenge, as the republicans did against Clinton in their lust for power at any cost to our nation?

Let me add, that some Bush supporters on here have tried to explain the loss of Congress as merely what happens when a sitting president has an election during his 2nd term in office. However, this is the first time since Wilson that a president has lost both houses of Congress.
 
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To impeach Bush would be suicide for the Dems. They would totally lose the moderate voting base that gave them success in the midterms. Besides that, I don't see any impeachable offense unless incompetence is a high-crime. Speaking of incompetence, the name Carter comes to mind. Was he impeached? Was Johnson?
 
Spencer Collins said:
Surely you jest,he will go down in history alright but he will not even make the top ten list.
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Sure he will. He'll be the leader he always wished he was......
'The leader of the top 10 WORST Presidents'...LOL :lol:
(and a President Cheney could probably make things worse)
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Oh my, who would want a President Cheney on their conscience!
It always happens when the voters forget and let the mental midgets in office, the dems have to come behind them and clean up their mess. Look at them now, even ol' dad (as he has, so many times in the past) has had to call in Jr's. babysitters (Baker, et al) for advise on what to do with the mess they've made.:joke:
 
We have no choice but to impeach him. That is our only option out of the quagmire and abyss he has gotten this country into. All the nobility and respect this country earned after WWII has been destroyed by this Administration. We are on the verge of losing our heritage and saying goodbye to a representative government. We have to impeach him in order to survive as a nation and reduce the threat of terrorism on our shores.

Because of Bush neoconic foreign policy, we are uniting what was once enemies around a common cause..........the hatred for America. If we don't impeach Bush, as was stated above by another poster, we will be saying to the world that we approve of his illegal, armed, un-provoked aggression against sovereign states. The perception that Americans approve of this Nazi-esque foreign policy, is the main reason people are getting their heads chopped off! By impeaching Bush and Cheney, we would be saying to the world that we heard their cries for justice and have decided to clean our own house and in doing so, demonstrate why we are a great nation. This is what the Germans should have done when Hitler started enacting legislation consolidating his power. Bush is doing the same thing with the passage of the Military Commission's Act. In one detainee case recently, Aministration officials told an Appeals court they had no jurisdiction in the case. Can you believe the Executive branch telling the Judicial branch they have no jurisdiction? This is understandable in a dictatorship, but shocking in the US of A.

Impeaching Bush would set us apart from the Germans at Weimar and show the entire world that we are a nation that respects the rule of law. And in doing so, would be the first step to reduce the hatred that manifests in attacks on our shores.

What is going on in Iraq is genocide on an epic scale. And were about to repeat the process in Iran. Does this sound familiar...

...if we don't impeach him, all I can say, in the words of Ronald Reagan, "Here we go again!"
 
tecoyah said:
I think we all saw the effects of pointless impeachment when the republicans did it to Clinton. He was weakened severely by it, and I dont think this country can afford to do such a thing at this time.
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Ah yes... Words to the wise... Agreed.
 
The results of this poll and what the Dems do in Washington only add more and more evidence to the fact that neither party follows the principles of it's constituents. Both only care how any political action will look through the eyes of Big Business donors, and, consequently, voters in the next election.
 
What's the point?? By the time it is over it will be near the end of this term anyway.
He has been President for 6 years, I'm sure you can handle another 2. Besides he is lame duck President now. He can't crap without asking the Democrats for toliet paper.
 
Billo_Really said:
  • Starting a war before receiving authorization from Congress
  • Lying to the nation during his inauguration when he stated he would defend the Constitution
  • Launching an un-provoked attack on a sovereign nation in violation of our Constitution
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A) He didn't start the war before he got Congressional authorization, the air strikes were retaliatory for Saddam firing on our planes in the no-fly zone.

B) He has defended the Constitution and the nation from enemies both foreign and domestic.

C) Where in the Constitution does it prohibit preemptive military action? Regardless Saddam violated every single one of the U.N. resolutions, and he was supporting international terrorism.
 

That report was based on incomplete intel IE aerial surveilance let's see what the ground intel has to say:


If you think Iranian nuclear development is towards peaceful aims you are delusional.
 
Doremus Jessup said:
This is the most important one.

W is at least the worst since Ronnie McReagan.
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Umm it's the Democrats who want to violate the Constitution by infringing on the Presidents inherent authority as commander and chief. The branches of government are separate for a reason but it seems you people don't agree with the separations of power as per your rejections of the unitary executive theory.
 
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