Three sentences explain exactly what the Democratic Party and politicians want to eliminate police

[joko104]

Typo correction: Three sentences that explain why (not what):

Police and prison workers overwhelmingly vote conservative.

Social workers and bureaucrats overwhelmingly vote liberal.

Therefore, Democratic politicians demand less police and prison jobs to transfer the money and jobs to have more social workers and bureaucrats.

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It is that simple. It's called using political power to punish your enemies and reward your friends - by eliminating enemies and creating friends.

 

[trixare4kids]

Typo correction: Three sentences that explain why (not what):

Police and prison workers overwhelmingly vote conservative.

Social workers and bureaucrats overwhelmingly vote liberal.

Therefore, Democratic politicians demand less police and prison jobs to transfer the money and jobs to have more social workers and bureaucrats.

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It is that simple. It's called using political power to punish your enemies and reward your friends - by eliminating enemies and creating friends.

They also want to DE-weaponize the police.

 

[joko104]

I'm confident increasing numbers of black people do not agree with Democrats wanting to still further reduce police services in black communities. Only criminals, punks and rich white spoiled college kids from the high dollar white walled community suburbs want that.

 

[skeptic llc]

Three sentences that explain why (not what):

Social workers and bureaucrats overwhelmingly vote liberal.

Police and prison workers overwhelmingly vote conservative.

Therefore, Republican politicians demand more police and prison jobs to transfer the money and jobs to have less social workers and bureaucrats.

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It is that simple. It's called using political power to punish your enemies and reward your friends - by eliminating enemies and creating friends.

Hmmm ...

 

[joko104]

Hmmm ...

You may have a point. The reverse of what I posted may be true too.

 

[Grand Mal]

Typo correction: Three sentences that explain why (not what):

Police and prison workers overwhelmingly vote conservative.

Social workers and bureaucrats overwhelmingly vote liberal.

Therefore, Democratic politicians demand less police and prison jobs to transfer the money and jobs to have more social workers and bureaucrats.

- - - -

It is that simple. It's called using political power to punish your enemies and reward your friends - by eliminating enemies and creating friends.

So if someone stops being a cop they disappear? Or do they stop voting the way a cop votes and start voting like an unemployed bum?
Democrats want to make cops and prison workers vote Democrat so they target their jobs and put them out of work. Do you ever think these things through?

 

[MrWonka]

Typo correction: Three sentences that explain why (not what):

Police and prison workers overwhelmingly vote conservative.

Social workers and bureaucrats overwhelmingly vote liberal.

Therefore, Democratic politicians demand less police and prison jobs to transfer the money and jobs to have more social workers and bureaucrats.

It is that simple. It's called using political power to punish your enemies and reward your friends - by eliminating enemies and creating friends.

So by your own logic then this would have to be why Republicans want to throw ever more exponential money at police officers would it not?

You seem to be projecting here pal. You're accusing Democrats of something because you know this is exactly what Republicans are doing. This is why you support a war on drugs. It gives you an excuse to hire more police and arrest more black people.

 

[lwf]

Typo correction: Three sentences that explain why (not what):

Police and prison workers overwhelmingly vote conservative.

Social workers and bureaucrats overwhelmingly vote liberal.

Therefore, Democratic politicians demand less police and prison jobs to transfer the money and jobs to have more social workers and bureaucrats.

- - - -

It is that simple. It's called using political power to punish your enemies and reward your friends - by eliminating enemies and creating friends.

That doesn't make any sense. Eliminating someone's job does not take away their right to vote, nor would it suddenly cause them to start voting Democrat.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Typo correction: Three sentences that explain why (not what):

Police and prison workers overwhelmingly vote conservative.

Social workers and bureaucrats overwhelmingly vote liberal.

Therefore, Democratic politicians demand less police and prison jobs to transfer the money and jobs to have more social workers and bureaucrats.

- - - -

It is that simple. It's called using political power to punish your enemies and reward your friends - by eliminating enemies and creating friends.

That’s all silly but in any event even if it were true, you’re realing the whirlwind. “Obama judge,” “Democrat mayors!” Trump has made it so anything not-GOP is considered illegitimate to the faithful.

You folks gotta be purged from government. Trump voters are anti-American.

 

[joko104]

That doesn't make any sense. Eliminating someone's job does not take away their right to vote, nor would it suddenly cause them to start voting Democrat.

People often become like the people they work with - and the inherent nature of the job also affects their political perspective. For example, it is not uncommon for someone shifting to the "right" after joining the military. More to the left after taking a university job.

Comment: ANYONE I know currently in the military, absolutely disagrees with Biden and Harris wanting us more involved in Syria - and basically want us to get out of that entire region because we are accomplishing nothing or worse.

 

[joko104]

So by your own logic then this would have to be why Republicans want to throw ever more exponential money at police officers would it not?

You seem to be projecting here pal. You're accusing Democrats of something because you know this is exactly what Republicans are doing. This is why you support a war on drugs. It gives you an excuse to hire more police and arrest more black people.

You mean "you" generically, right? Not me personally. Try to find a message in 10 years I've posted supporting "The War On Drugs." Try hard.

It was Obama and Biden that passed laws to mostly throw blacks in prison for life for drugs. It has been President Trump who has let many of those people out. So maybe by "you" really you should have use "me." Do you think Biden will order them put back in prison since it was his and Obama's laws - that Biden used to brag about - that put them in prison in the first place.

 

[skeptic llc]

People often become like the people they work with - and the inherent nature of the job also affects their political perspective. For example, it is not uncommon for someone shifting to the "right" after joining the military.

That certainly was true before Trump. Now, not so much. Trump’s popularity slips in latest Military Times poll — and more troops say they’ll vote for Biden

 

[Evilroddy]

Typo correction: Three sentences that explain why (not what):

Police and prison workers overwhelmingly vote conservative.

Social workers and bureaucrats overwhelmingly vote liberal.

Therefore, Democratic politicians demand less police and prison jobs to transfer the money and jobs to have more social workers and bureaucrats.

- - - -

It is that simple. It's called using political power to punish your enemies and reward your friends - by eliminating enemies and creating friends.

Joko104:

How many African Americans have been shot dead or badly wounded by social workers and bureaucrats in the last two decades? Far fewer than by your many disfunctional police forces dotting America's law enforcement landscape I would wager. Relieving police for the responsibility of dealing with the insane, the addicted, the homeless, etc., so that they can concentrate on law enforcement and crime prevention/solution makes perfect sense and requires no sinister political agenda. Me thinks you are projecting your own biases on what might be a very rational policy change if the change is done prudently and carefully.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.

 

[Evilroddy]

They also want to DE-weaponize the police.

Trix4k:

Demilitarising the police is bad, why? Do police need mine-resistant armoured personnel carriers, armoured cars with auto-cannons, anti-tank and anti-aircraft missile launchers, etc.? Brains rather than bullets might be a better way to conduct most law enforcement operations in much of America along with effective community policing and effective police oversight.

Are parts of America to be civilly free or militarily occupied by your own police institutions?

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.

 

[joko104]

Trix4k:

Demilitarising the police is bad, why? Do police need mine-resistant armoured personnel carriers, armoured cars with auto-cannons, anti-tank and anti-aircraft missile launchers, etc.? Brains rather than bullets might be a better way to conduct most law enforcement operations in much of America along with effective community policing and effective police oversight.

Are parts of America to be civilly free or militarily occupied by your own police institutions?

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.

Police brains are for BLM to shoot, right?

It is coming to the police in major Democratic Party run cities needing exactly some of what you list (ignoring your hyperbole list) to not be exposed to random assassinations - as those Democratic leaders want to happen - though they'll maybe settle for them all being permanently blinded by lasers by Democratic Party endorsed and promoted protesters.

If you ever need police, phone yourself. But remember, if you defend yourself or anyone else, you're going to prison in Democratic Party run cities. So pick between a future in a grave or a future in a prison. Maybe you should make that decision now, since if you ever need to you'll have a second to make it.

Which would YOU pick? A lifetime in prison or being in the grave?

Which would you pick - you in prison or your loved one in the grave?

 

[Gladiator]

Typo correction: Three sentences that explain why (not what):

Police and prison workers overwhelmingly vote conservative.

Social workers and bureaucrats overwhelmingly vote liberal.

Therefore, Democratic politicians demand less police and prison jobs to transfer the money and jobs to have more social workers and bureaucrats.

- - - -

It is that simple. It's called using political power to punish your enemies and reward your friends - by eliminating enemies and creating friends.

Politics may be part of a desire to Defund the Police.

Social workers are often more effective when working in alternatives to prison, which sometimes rely on religion, as pat of the development of ethics and social skills.

Judges and prosecutors often do not use alteratives to prison at sentencing because they don't feel it is part of their job, or even permitted in many cases.

Police represent prison terms for many communities in the US. Police are the community representatives of the Criminal Courts, probation and imprisonment.

One possible way to re-imagine Policing in the US, is to give judges and prosecutors the authority and duty, to utilize alternatives to prison. The funding for Alternatives can be raised from the money re-directed from suspending jail time.

The reduction in recidivism, using effective alternative programs, can be tracked, to help judges to utilize the most effective programs for the individual offender. The offender can volunteer for religious programs, and return to prison, if the program becomes no longer voluntary.

Resentment of police will be reduced, as communities develop increased social deterrence. Currenty, there is little tolerance for mistakes by police in the aplication of force, in policing.

For years, many politicians have won elections, after campaigning for stiffer sentences for various crimes. The current demonstrations criticizing the police are not only about the mistakes by police, but also criticize the US System of Justice and imprisonment.

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[joko104]

Politics may be part of a desire to Defund the Police.

Social workers are often more effective when working in alternatives to prison, which sometimes rely on religion, as pat of the development of ethics and social skills.

Judges and prosecutors often do not use alteratives to prison at sentencing because they don't feel it is part of their job, or even permitted in many cases.

Police represent prison terms for many communities in the US. Police are the community representatives of the Criminal Courts, probation and imprisonment.

One possible way to re-imagine Policing in the US, is to give judges and prosecutors the authority and duty, to utilize alternatives to prison. The funding for Alternatives can be raised from the money re-directed from suspending jail time.

The reduction in recidivism, using effective alternative programs, can be tracked, to help judges to utilize the most effective programs for the individual offender. The offender can volunteer for religious programs, and return to prison, if the program becomes no longer voluntary.

Resentment of police will be reduced, as communities develop increased social deterrence. Currenty, there is little tolerance for mistakes by police in the aplication of force, in policing.

For years, many politicians have won elections, after campaigning for stiffer sentences for various crimes. The current demonstrations criticizing the police are not only about the mistakes by police, but also criticize the US System of Justice and imprisonment.

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Damn right. The black guy who had stabbed 4 people including a child last year who then came charging out at the police with a knife had outrageously been taken in and booked for those stabbing before being released by the judge.

Social workers would have had far better sense to have EVER let him be put in jail for those stabbings. They recognize the anger of black men and the past injustice of slavery. Given all the blacks killed in the past by white people, every black man gets to stab as many people as he needs to satisfy his anger - regardless of the age and race of who he is stabbing.

A black man being arrested for stabbing people is outrageous and pure racism. And where such outrageous racism occurs 90+% of the time is in Democratic Party run cities running purely evil racist police departments, with purely racist Democratic DAs and judges.

That's your point, isn't it?

 

[Integrityrespec]

People often become like the people they work with - and the inherent nature of the job also affects their political perspective. For example, it is not uncommon for someone shifting to the "right" after joining the military. More to the left after taking a university job.

Comment: ANYONE I know currently in the military, absolutely disagrees with Biden and Harris wanting us more involved in Syria - and basically want us to get out of that entire region because we are accomplishing nothing or worse.

Those supporting involvement in Syria are helping the Military Industrial Complex to remain strong and wealthy.

 

[Nickyjo]

Gee, police trend conservative and social workers trend liberal. Whodathunkit? Next someone will point out that urban black people vote for democrats and rural whites vote for republicans. How does that figure?

 

[Evilroddy]

Police brains are for BLM to shoot, right?

It is coming to the police in major Democratic Party run cities needing exactly some of what you list (ignoring your hyperbole list) to not be exposed to random assassinations - as those Democratic leaders want to happen - though they'll maybe settle for them all being permanently blinded by lasers by Democratic Party endorsed and promoted protesters.

If you ever need police, phone yourself. But remember, if you defend yourself or anyone else, you're going to prison in Democratic Party run cities. So pick between a future in a grave or a future in a prison. Maybe you should make that decision now, since if you ever need to you'll have a second to make it.

Which would YOU pick? A lifetime in prison or being in the grave?

Which would you pick - you in prison or your loved one in the grave?

joko104:

What are you on about now? Your first paragraph is a rambling fantasy of hyperbole which is seemingly unrooted in reality.

As for calling the police, in a civilised country like Canada they come as soon as they can get there and are as helpful as they can be once they arrive. Unless there is a hostage taking or an outright riot they proceed carefully and with minimal violence in managing the situation. Only rarely do the coppers screw up and use unnecessary violence. Canadian police seldom shoot folk dead and almost never do it unnecessarily.

As for your choices, I have made two citizen arrests in my life, both involving the use of reasonable force by me upon the person being arrested. I was neither hurt nor prosecuted nor sued in either case. Nor were those I detained badly hurt. Brains beat bullets in most circumstances in policing even informal policing by citizens who intervene in a crime.

People outside of your head who live in the real world don't face the kinds of scenarios you are talking about except in the most exceptional circumstances. That is why it's called the "civilised world".

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

People often become like the people they work with - and the inherent nature of the job also affects their political perspective. For example, it is not uncommon for someone shifting to the "right" after joining the military. More to the left after taking a university job.

Comment: ANYONE I know currently in the military, absolutely disagrees with Biden and Harris wanting us more involved in Syria - and basically want us to get out of that entire region because we are accomplishing nothing or worse.

I’m sure your sample of opinion is yuuuuge.

 

[Gladiator]

Damn right. The black guy who had stabbed 4 people including a child last year who then came charging out at the police with a knife had outrageously been taken in and booked for those stabbing before being released by the judge.

Social workers would have had far better sense to have EVER let him be put in jail for those stabbings. They recognize the anger of black men and the past injustice of slavery. Given all the blacks killed in the past by white people, every black man gets to stab as many people as he needs to satisfy his anger - regardless of the age and race of who he is stabbing.

A black man being arrested for stabbing people is outrageous and pure racism. And where such outrageous racism occurs 90+% of the time is in Democratic Party run cities running purely evil racist police departments, with purely racist Democratic DAs and judges.

That's your point, isn't it?

The increase in drug usage, in the last few years, creates less popularity for police officers. The Drug laws, convictions and sentences to prison, create more people in society who are inconvenienced by police. The drug using section of society has more to fear from police. Legalizing Marijuana is not complete, so the wider use of Marijuana contributes to problem opinions of police.

There is more to the community acceptance of policing, than simply preventing and punishing violent crimes.

This article describes drug law enforcement.

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/117447.pdf


How Much Drug Use Occurs in Law Enforcement? - In Public Safety



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[Gladiator]

Damn right. The black guy who had stabbed 4 people including a child last year who then came charging out at the police with a knife had outrageously been taken in and booked for those stabbing before being released by the judge.

Social workers would have had far better sense to have EVER let him be put in jail for those stabbings. They recognize the anger of black men and the past injustice of slavery. Given all the blacks killed in the past by white people, every black man gets to stab as many people as he needs to satisfy his anger - regardless of the age and race of who he is stabbing.

A black man being arrested for stabbing people is outrageous and pure racism. And where such outrageous racism occurs 90+% of the time is in Democratic Party run cities running purely evil racist police departments, with purely racist Democratic DAs and judges.

That's your point, isn't it?

Anti-Police Sentiment is a concept that is not well defined by studies on causation. What can reduce Anti-Police sentiment among various factions of US Society?


Democrats fuel attacks on police, ICE with incendiary political rhetoric, critics charge - Washington Times

Anti-police sentiment - Wikipedia

Repudiate the Anti-Police Narrative



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[Gladiator]

Damn right. The black guy who had stabbed 4 people including a child last year who then came charging out at the police with a knife had outrageously been taken in and booked for those stabbing before being released by the judge.

Social workers would have had far better sense to have EVER let him be put in jail for those stabbings. They recognize the anger of black men and the past injustice of slavery. Given all the blacks killed in the past by white people, every black man gets to stab as many people as he needs to satisfy his anger - regardless of the age and race of who he is stabbing.

A black man being arrested for stabbing people is outrageous and pure racism. And where such outrageous racism occurs 90+% of the time is in Democratic Party run cities running purely evil racist police departments, with purely racist Democratic DAs and judges.

That's your point, isn't it?

My point is that the police are being asked to enforce drug laws that are immensely unpoular wih a significant portion of the US Society. Drug users, drug dealers, gang members, and gang asociates, have negative views of the drug enforcement parts of police work.

Tax laws sometimes lead to Criminal convictions, making finding empoyment a challenge. There are many criminal laws for victimless crimes.

One of the causes of crime is US politiians. Everytime something bad hapens to a consttuent, the legislator invents a criminal offesnse. How many feet of criminal law books are there for City, State and Fedral criminal laws? Police have to represent the enforcement of all laws, as they travel in the community. Legislators have made the image of the policeman quite burdensome, even if the paticular police person only enforces a few of the laws that are written.

When a policeman makes a mistake in enforcement, or an unintended injury occurs to an arrestee, the resentment built with all the overly burdensome laws over flows into dgoup violence.

The Police also represent the operation of criminial records that make employment difficult. This part of the Crimnial legal system could be changed to have only meaningful arrests be accessible





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