Thousands of Russians protest President Vladimir V. Putin’s assault on Ukraine.

[NewfieMom]

Besides the condemnation of the NATO countries and economic sanctions, Mr. Putin may be facing internal opposition to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. The United States had speculated that once the Russian people were affected by the war economically and once they started to lose family members "seeing body bags come home" that Mr. Putin would feel opposition from his own people. It seems that that there is considerable opposition to the war right now on principle, which is a wonderful turn of events.

"Thousands of protesters took to the streets and squares of Russian cities on Thursday to protest President Vladimir V. Putin’s decision to invade Ukraine, only to be met with heavy police presence.

Many Russians, like people across the world, were shocked to wake up and learn that Mr. Putin had ordered a full-scale assault against a country often referred to as a 'brotherly nation.' At the protests, many people said they felt depressed and broken by the news of Russian military action.

In Moscow, the police blocked off access to the Pushkinskaya Square in the city center, after opposition activists called people to come there. Police officers dispersed even the smallest groups of protesters, ordering them to clear the area through loudspeakers.

A few hundred people, mostly young, flanked the streets leading to the square, some chanting 'No to war!' and unfurling a Ukrainian flag. The police detained more than 600 people in the city, according to OVD Info, a rights group that tallies arrests.

'The world has turned upside down,' said Anastasia, 44, bursting into tears after seeing that the square was not full of people. 'Everyone must be here, it is the only way to show that something monstrous is happening,' she said, refusing to give her last name fearing repercussions from security services."

Thousands of Russians protest President Vladimir V. Putin’s assault on Ukraine. Some chant: ‘No to war!’

At the demonstrations, many people said they felt depressed and broken by the news of Russian military action.

www.nytimes.com

 

[sanman]

 

[RAMOSS]

Since any opposition to the government in Russia is dangerous, they are very brave.

 

[RealityNow]

Besides the condemnation of the NATO countries and economic sanctions, Mr. Putin may be facing internal opposition to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. The United States had speculated that once the Russian people were affected by the war economically and once they started to lose family members "seeing body bags come home" that Mr. Putin would feel opposition from his own people. It seems that that there is considerable opposition to the war right now on principle, which is a wonderful turn of events.

"Thousands of protesters took to the streets and squares of Russian cities on Thursday to protest President Vladimir V. Putin’s decision to invade Ukraine, only to be met with heavy police presence.

Many Russians, like people across the world, were shocked to wake up and learn that Mr. Putin had ordered a full-scale assault against a country often referred to as a 'brotherly nation.' At the protests, many people said they felt depressed and broken by the news of Russian military action.

In Moscow, the police blocked off access to the Pushkinskaya Square in the city center, after opposition activists called people to come there. Police officers dispersed even the smallest groups of protesters, ordering them to clear the area through loudspeakers.

A few hundred people, mostly young, flanked the streets leading to the square, some chanting 'No to war!' and unfurling a Ukrainian flag. The police detained more than 600 people in the city, according to OVD Info, a rights group that tallies arrests.

'The world has turned upside down,' said Anastasia, 44, bursting into tears after seeing that the square was not full of people. 'Everyone must be here, it is the only way to show that something monstrous is happening,' she said, refusing to give her last name fearing repercussions from security services."

Thousands of Russians protest President Vladimir V. Putin’s assault on Ukraine. Some chant: ‘No to war!’

At the demonstrations, many people said they felt depressed and broken by the news of Russian military action.

www.nytimes.com

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Biden gave a goo message to the Russian people and they heard and they understood it, when he told them, he did not see the Russian People as an Enemy. that is is direct contrast to what the Russian media has tried to drill into the heads of people.
Fact is, Russian People have Cell Phone that have internet and they can access data outside of Russian Propoganda. There are people in Russia who DO NOT LIKE PUTIN, they know Putin "stole elections" to install himself, and the Russian people know that is full on disrespect for them as individual who is person.

Putin and his tactics of Repressing the Voice of the People may have worked until he started sending their son's off to war and when those son return in bags, more and more people will get the collective courage to amass themselves. Putin may well have over-estimated his concept of lock on the Russian People.
It's about like Trump who deluded himself to think those rally's represented all of America, when there were 80 plus Million Voting Age People who did not buy into Trumpism, and there are 10's of Million more who did not vote who did not buy into Trumpist Vile and Madness.

That type of reality will present itself in Russia as the people know this is "wrong what Putin has done". NOTHING about Putin's Invasion has any means to benefit the average Russian Citizen and the working class people know it !!!! They will not long go silent to allow this inhumane madness, they've seen enough of it enacted upon their own fellow Russian Citizens by the Putin Regime.

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The Russians going against Putin in Ukraine​

When war broke out in Ukraine’s east in 2014, thousands joined volunteer militias to bolster the then-weak Ukrainian army. Among their ranks were Russians, including far-right activists taking up arms against Russia-backed separatists.

And now, as the Russian army amasses near the border with Ukraine, they say they are ready to do it again and fight against their own government.
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[RealityNow]

Since any opposition to the government in Russia is dangerous, they are very brave.

Having their Sons killed is a strong motivation for Russian People not to support Putin's Invasion of Ukraine

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The Russians going against Putin in Ukraine​

When war broke out in Ukraine’s east in 2014, thousands joined volunteer militias to bolster the then-weak Ukrainian army. Among their ranks were Russians, including far-right activists taking up arms against Russia-backed separatists.

And now, as the Russian army amasses near the border with Ukraine, they say they are ready to do it again and fight against their own government.
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As a Russian, I don’t know how to live with the shame of Putin’s aggression​

Many younger people born during or after perestroika want to leave, and many have become passive. They don’t think they can change the situation. The system established a harsh criminal responsibility for expressing one’s own opinion: up to five years in prison for protests or publications on the internet. The economy is stagnant. We are dependent on fossil fuel industries, many sectors are corrupt and full of cronyism. The takeover of business by criminal oligarchs is obvious to everyone. It is easy to believe nothing can change. This is the little man’s complex, instilled by the authorities for years – that I am a small insignificant person who can do nothing.

Still, I think that like me, many younger people don’t believe the superficial propaganda about Ukraine. We condemn all forms of aggression. We believe the attack on Ukraine was clearly planned in advance – all my friends share this belief. There are many ways to get information and to think for yourself, if you can look and you have brains – for younger people, especially. There are Telegram channels. Brave bloggers and YouTubers. There are many ways to get news from other countries and to find people who will criticise what is happening.

I believe, and hope, that there will be no escalation of the conflict, but sanctions for Russia will be monstrous. There will be global isolation for us. The official position of the Kremlin is the demilitarisation and denationalisation of Ukraine. I don’t know how to live with this: it’s a shame and disgrace. But no form of protest is possible with us. Absolutely none. It’s the feeling of a helpless hostage.
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People Find A Way... and the Russian People will find a way ..... When the young are made to feel helpless, they can become a powerful force when they become united in deciding they will no longer accept being made to feel as if they are nothing.

If the Sanction and Isolation can cripple the Oligarch's and Lockup and Freeze their Money which they have stashed around the Globe. These same Oligarch's will themselves Turn on Putin.
If the value of the Ruple continues to crumble, it may well be a win for the Russian People, especially if they can overthow the Russian Regime, they can also install a government that can remove the public utilities and service providers from the control hands of Oligarch's.
They Oligarch's can be given the same ultimatium that Putin gave them, but it can be done by a Government with a New Leader that Respects the people, by telling the Oligarch's either you can turn over the Utilities and public services to the government and keep 10% of your assets, or we will take it and you get nothing but a prison cell.

Putin can be made to realize his personal wealth of $200 Billion... is no match for Global Wealth of N.A.T.O Nations combined wealth.

 

[MTAtech]

Paul Krugman has a novel way to punish Putin and his cronies, who stole 85% of Russian GDP.

Opinion | Laundered Money Could Be Putin’s Achilles’ Heel

We can and should freeze oligarchs’ overseas assets.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Linc]

Thousands of Russians have been arrested by your KGB.

 

[RealityNow]

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Russians Have Suddenly Stopped Buying Putin’s Anti-American Propaganda​

December 19, 2021
It’s easy to see why President Vladimir Putin might have thought ratcheting up tensions on Ukraine’s border and blaming it all on NATO and the U.S. would rally his faltering support back home, but this time something different is happening.

Most Russians aren’t buying it.

Domestic propaganda levels have reached near-hysteria this year after anti-Putin protests swept the country following the attempted murder and imprisonment of opposition leader Alexei Navalny.

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“Politicians and ordinary people often have different agendas,” said Susanna Emirali, a young advertising producer. “Most of my friends understand that ordinary Americans are cool.”

Emirali is typical of the Russians who are now rejecting state propaganda. She says she avoids watching political talk shows on television and prefers to read her news on independent outlets online. She believes the United States has nothing to do with Russia’s biggest problems and hopes the conflict between Moscow and Washington will soon end.

During the pandemic last year Emirali said she saw her mother and father’s eyes begin to open. Both engineers in their late forties, they stopped watching television and began to read news on independent sites, learning first about the poisoning attack on Navalny, then about his arrest and about the mass opposition protests in both Russia and Belarus.

“They began to sympathize with arrested peaceful protesters, so their political views have changed, they openly blame Putin for domestic problems,” Emirali said.

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It’s not just the West that opposes Putin’s war on Ukraine. A lot of Russians do, too.​

The weekend protest was only the latest in the growing chorus of voices within Russia itself opposing Putin’s threats to Ukraine — a trend that has been underreported by international media, leaving many Westerners with the impression that everyone in Russia supports the war. This is certainly not the case. In recent days, the country’s leading cultural figures — who traditionally hold significant moral clout here — have spoken out against an attack on Ukraine. “Russia does not need a war with Ukraine or with the West,” read a statement signed by, among others, rock musician Andrei Makarevich and actress Liya Akhedzhakova. “Nobody is threatening us, nobody is attacking us. The policy that pushes for war is immoral, irresponsible and criminal.”

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Putin's attack Ukraine, he might be doing so at his own peril. Russian rulers do not have a good track record of “small victorious wars” launched for domestic political purposes — from the czarist regime’s disastrous campaigns in Crimea and Japan in the 19th and early 20th centuries to the invasion of Afghanistan in the waning years of the Soviet Union. The result is usually the opposite of what was intended. “For Russia, such wars end not only unsuccessfully, but often in a political catastrophe,” warned Professor Andrei Zubov, an eminent historian who was fired from Russia’s top diplomatic academy in 2014 over his opposition to the annexation of Crimea. “We know what public attitudes were after the defeat in the Russo-Japanese war of 1905 [leading to Russia’s first revolution]. We could have the same now. We could face a situation when people won’t accept this gamble by the regime.”
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While Putin is trying to threaten external nations from acting to stop this War... the biggest force that can force Putin to stop this Savagery, can come from within Russia.

 

[RAMOSS]

People Find A Way... and the Russian People will find a way ..... When the young are made to feel helpless, they can become a powerful force when they become united in deciding they will no longer accept being made to feel as if they are nothing.

Supposedly, Putin is going against what his advisors said about Ukraine, but it's his way or the high way. Gosh, the reminds me of someone else.

 

[RealityNow]

Paul Krugman has a novel way to punish Putin and his cronies, who stole 85% of Russian GDP.

Opinion | Laundered Money Could Be Putin’s Achilles’ Heel

We can and should freeze oligarchs’ overseas assets.

www.nytimes.com

History has repeatedly shown, The World is reset by many means, and Putin's over-estimations and arrogant self deluding egotistical vain aggression may just be the trigger that has been pulled to create the snowball effect that all nations have considered, which is 'going after the money washing machine' and cutting the cord. Nations government have long wanted to get their money back from the corruptions that has damaged their economics by those who fleece the people and nation and stash the money offshores.
The World is only so big, and data can span the globe in the fastest time ever. Once the process is underway against one of the biggest facilitators of "money washing networks', this can start a domino effect that brings down many. That alone can make the power brokers turn on Russian from every angle. Realize there is no honor among thieves. When the dominoes start to fall, I would not be surprised to see Trump's Loans are called and Licensing agreement canceled. Because the people who know how the "money washing game works and who plays' ... will take each other down in the blink of an eye to try to save their own assets.

 

[Noodlegawd]

Besides the condemnation of the NATO countries and economic sanctions, Mr. Putin may be facing internal opposition to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. The United States had speculated that once the Russian people were affected by the war economically and once they started to lose family members "seeing body bags come home" that Mr. Putin would feel opposition from his own people. It seems that that there is considerable opposition to the war right now on principle, which is a wonderful turn of events.

"Thousands of protesters took to the streets and squares of Russian cities on Thursday to protest President Vladimir V. Putin’s decision to invade Ukraine, only to be met with heavy police presence.

Many Russians, like people across the world, were shocked to wake up and learn that Mr. Putin had ordered a full-scale assault against a country often referred to as a 'brotherly nation.' At the protests, many people said they felt depressed and broken by the news of Russian military action.

In Moscow, the police blocked off access to the Pushkinskaya Square in the city center, after opposition activists called people to come there. Police officers dispersed even the smallest groups of protesters, ordering them to clear the area through loudspeakers.

A few hundred people, mostly young, flanked the streets leading to the square, some chanting 'No to war!' and unfurling a Ukrainian flag. The police detained more than 600 people in the city, according to OVD Info, a rights group that tallies arrests.

'The world has turned upside down,' said Anastasia, 44, bursting into tears after seeing that the square was not full of people. 'Everyone must be here, it is the only way to show that something monstrous is happening,' she said, refusing to give her last name fearing repercussions from security services."

Thousands of Russians protest President Vladimir V. Putin’s assault on Ukraine. Some chant: ‘No to war!’

At the demonstrations, many people said they felt depressed and broken by the news of Russian military action.

www.nytimes.com

They have a right to be angry. They are the ones who will suffer from the sanctions. Putin certainly won't.

 

[NewfieMom]

They have a right to be angry. They are the ones who will suffer from the sanctions. Putin certainly won't.

I totally agree with you. What Putin has done not only hurts Ukraine, but hurts Russia, too. And it will not only be sanctions, but also loss of life, that affects Russia.