FinnMacCool
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This has been bothering me all day and finally I decided to write everything all down. I've been thinking a lot about Ayn Rand. I have read nothing of her I have only read up on her philosophy, that is of Objectivism. From what I've read, Objectivism is a belief that humans exist to achieve what they want. So when I read that I thought "Wow here is someone whom I agree with."
But then I read a little more into it and I got a little funny. Now I agree that human success is doing what you want to do. I've always believed that. But what I'm having a hard time swallowing is the how her beliefs are concerned with individualism etc. All these things that I whole heartedly support but at the same time I find myself a little weary of her ideas about how, if I may speak frankly, that the rest of it is like **** the suffering.
Too be quite honestly lately I've been reading a lot doing a lot of research on different political philosophys (even going as far as reading Mein Kamph). I've been very heavy on socialism also, for awhile. Since I started that thread "Socialism and Me." I became quite taken to Orwell and his writings. His writing seems to speak exactly what I'm thinking and even more so, define what I've been missing. Ever since I've read his stuff, I've been thinking of socialism less as oppression, something that I'm totally against to something that I'm actually totally for. I've done research on several socialist parties, though a lot of whom I already finding that, though I agree with their ideas, it doesn't exactly appeal to me so much as Orwell did. I still would like to think his ideas are possible and perhaps plausible in this day and age but the current socialist parties I'm sort of wary of.
I've also considered the possiblity of Liberterianism. It seems to me a lot more realistic then Socialism and probably more plausible especially nowadays but the whole idea of it doesn't seem to do very much for me because if we established a liberterian society then we would still never advance into at least attempting to get people out of the gutter. Not that I would ever think of handing out paychecks to bums on the street but not everyone who is poor is a bum either. I think people should be allowed to enjoy the fruits of their labor, of course, but I don't think we should just let someone die either. Especially if we have the means and the tools to provide them with ways to get their selves back on track, especially those with children. Maybe their parents made mistakes but their children aren't old enough to make mistakes like that.
Have to end this short. But I hope you guys have thoughts on this. Its something thats been on mind a lot.
But then I read a little more into it and I got a little funny. Now I agree that human success is doing what you want to do. I've always believed that. But what I'm having a hard time swallowing is the how her beliefs are concerned with individualism etc. All these things that I whole heartedly support but at the same time I find myself a little weary of her ideas about how, if I may speak frankly, that the rest of it is like **** the suffering.
Too be quite honestly lately I've been reading a lot doing a lot of research on different political philosophys (even going as far as reading Mein Kamph). I've been very heavy on socialism also, for awhile. Since I started that thread "Socialism and Me." I became quite taken to Orwell and his writings. His writing seems to speak exactly what I'm thinking and even more so, define what I've been missing. Ever since I've read his stuff, I've been thinking of socialism less as oppression, something that I'm totally against to something that I'm actually totally for. I've done research on several socialist parties, though a lot of whom I already finding that, though I agree with their ideas, it doesn't exactly appeal to me so much as Orwell did. I still would like to think his ideas are possible and perhaps plausible in this day and age but the current socialist parties I'm sort of wary of.
I've also considered the possiblity of Liberterianism. It seems to me a lot more realistic then Socialism and probably more plausible especially nowadays but the whole idea of it doesn't seem to do very much for me because if we established a liberterian society then we would still never advance into at least attempting to get people out of the gutter. Not that I would ever think of handing out paychecks to bums on the street but not everyone who is poor is a bum either. I think people should be allowed to enjoy the fruits of their labor, of course, but I don't think we should just let someone die either. Especially if we have the means and the tools to provide them with ways to get their selves back on track, especially those with children. Maybe their parents made mistakes but their children aren't old enough to make mistakes like that.
Have to end this short. But I hope you guys have thoughts on this. Its something thats been on mind a lot.