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'This will not stand': Air Force resumes teaching on first Black pilots after DEI review

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"Following swift backlash from legislators, retired military personnel, and others, the U.S. Air Force confirmed to USA TODAY Monday it will resume teaching its recruits about the first Black airmen in the nation’s military.

The move comes on the heels of the Air Force confirming Saturday that course instruction about the Tuskegee Airmen − the more than 15,000 Black pilots, mechanics and cooks in the segregated Army of World War II − had been pulled from basic training curriculum.

In addition, military officials confirmed the Air Force had pulled training about the Women Airforce Service Pilots (WASPs) − a paramilitary aviation organization of female pilots employed to fly during World War II."

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Not sure how you can acknowledge these two groups without dragging DEI into it. Any thoughts?
 
How are you defining DEI? I (sort of) understand, though disagree with arguments against DEI, but acknowledging the existence of non-white males, and acknowledging past discrimination against them should not be objectionable to anyone. If you think the discrimination was wrong, it should be taught to remind us to do better, and if you think it was right, there’s no reason to hide it.
 
One very important aspect of DEI, which Republicans and MAGA and conservatives could give a shit about, are handicapped people.

They're getting screwed in all of this just so a bunch of insecure white guys can feel better about themselves.
 

It seems like if a conversation is going to turn to past discrimination, it could raise questions about its consequences today.
 

I am confused. Seriously.
Does not the Air Force teach how to fly jets?

Why and how was this ever taught?

Should not all Americans learn this in high-school history?
 
noonereal said:
I am confused. Seriously.
Does not the Air Force teach how to fly jets?

Why and how was this ever taught?

Should not all Americans learn this in high-school history?
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Was it your intent to ask a rhetorical question?
 
j brown's body said:
Not sure how you can acknowledge these two groups without dragging DEI into it. Any thoughts?
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We have been able to teach about these groups without DEI for a long time.

These are stories of merit winning out over racial discrimination. DEI is enforcing Racial discrimination regardless of merit.

Jackie Robinson wouldn't be such a great story if he was a mediocre player who was drafted because he was black rather than breaking the color barrier because he was clearly a better baseball player than the majority of players in the league.
 

This is really what needs to happen. People need to resist dumb, idiotic orders that go against decency and sense. There is no reason to eliminate DEI programs and sections from the civil service unless, of course, the people pushing this intend to discriminate and allow/encourage discrimination on the basis of race. And if putting Black and Brown employees on administrative leave wasn't proof enough of this intent, trying to eradicate all traces of true history of Black and Brown service in the armed forces most certainly should be. I think we're honestly already just a step away from having the DOJ tell states that they're free to bring back Jim Crow policies and that they will effectively neuter the EEOC and civil rights divisions in various agencies of law enforcement and the DoJ as a whole. Nuking DEI is just a step away from that.

I know it's not going to be easy because they will be harassed and threatened with the end of their careers, but this is what needs to happen. People in the government need to defy these kinds of actions. Take them to court for harassment, hostile workplace, and unfair termination.
 
noonereal said:
I am confused. Seriously.
Does not the Air Force teach how to fly jets?

Why and how was this ever taught?

Should not all Americans learn this in high-school history?
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Tell us you never wore the uniform without saying the words…..
 
eman623 said:
Sounds like someone at the Air Force may be moving on to the private sector.
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Not.

This do over is In Your Face to Hegseth.

Hegseth the massive boozer who's in his 40s remains convinced he's indestructible physically and mentally.

He's being challenged by the Pentagon to go head on into this or to chill over it. This consciously and deliberately is a first test by the military brass who are challenging Hegseth right off.
 
Indeed.
Rather unsurprising that the leftists here, and elsewhere, can't grasp that it is the DEI which is being eliminated, and rightfully so, from that proud history that will remain to be taught.
Their connecting the two is purely out of their need to gin up false fauxrage over DEI being eliminated.
A rather transparent, and dishonest, frankly, tactic they've adopted.
 
I don’t think Jackie is a very good example, if he wasn’t a super athlete, no one would have heard of him. The DEI pendulum has swung way too far. Hardly anyone has heard of some of the Black mathematicians that got NASA off the ground.
 
Ikari said:
I'm not super sure how it relates to DEI, it is a factual piece of military history and there's no reason not to teach it.
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I think you've stumbled upon the ugly truth of what all this anti-DEI hysteria is truly about. What this is telling us is that this administration doesn't believe it's the federal government's responsibility to even consider racial discrimination, and that if states, cities, and private business choose to discriminate, that's their business, not the business of the federal government.

This, by the way, is exactly how they feel about sex discrimination, sexual harassment, discrimination against people with disabilities, discrimination against people for their ethnic/national background or their sexual orientation. As far as they are concerned, those people are on their own, and if they are too weak to do anything about it, they shouldn't come cryin to the federal government.
 
Yeah but he had to Leave the U.S. and go to Canada to get that foot in the door, didn't he?
 
noonereal said:
I am confused. Seriously.
Does not the Air Force teach how to fly jets?

Why and how was this ever taught?

Should not all Americans learn this in high-school history?
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Not all Americans are in the Air Force.

USAF has its own history, traditions, customs, heroes, great aircraft and pilots, campaigns and so on.

It's a disciplined organization with a chain of command and a mission central to the national defense and global security. In other words USAF is well beyond being a high school class.
 
noonereal said:
I am confused. Seriously.
Does not the Air Force teach how to fly jets?

Why and how was this ever taught?

Should not all Americans learn this in high-school history?
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USAFA EDU

The United States Air Force Academy isn’t just a university. It's an unparalleled academic and military institution that provides young men and women with rewarding opportunities to transform into the leaders of tomorrow. It’s life at a different altitude.
www.usafa.edu

The United States Naval Academy

The undergraduate college of our country’s naval service.
www.usna.edu

Why would this surprise you?
 
What they now call DEI was called CRT a few years ago. All this is right wing racist fake outrage.
 
There's no reason not to teach about the inherent and systematic racism that existed in this country far beyond the end of the Civil War. It's history, it's important to teach and learn about.

But I do agree, that most of this anti-DEI hysterics is mostly about burying history and pretend that problems that do exist don't exist because the problem is one they like.
 
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