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WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice called on Congress Wednesday to approve an unprecedented U.S. plan to share nuclear technology with India, saying it was "not enabling a larger weapons program."





I simply cant understand why this is at all acceptable practice.
But I suppose the evntual radioactive middleeast would be a nice vacation spot.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-04-05-riceindia_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA
 
India already has nukes - which I doubt it'd use on anyone, not even Pakistan.
 
vergiss said:
India already has nukes - which I doubt it'd use on anyone, not even Pakistan.

The issue is one of Diplomacy....not Nuclear proliferation. Iran is facing possible sanctions/action from the UN for trying to develop exactly what we are handing to India. Hypocracy is not a good way to deal with fanatics....regardless of the situation. Added to this is the fine line we force Pakistan to walk in this war on terror. Handing off nuclear secrets to the enemy of a supposed friend .....just makes no sense to me at all, particularly at this time, in this place.
 
Hmmm...the Bush admin is busy encouraging nuclear development in a hole like India. Why aren't they pushing for a shift to nuclear power in their own country?

I hear Exxon topped the Fortune 500. I wonder if that's related?

India won't use nukes on Pakistan because it doesn't have to. China, however, might feel some concern over India's nuclear arsenal. And THAT is almost certainly why the US has an interest in promoting India's nuclear abilities.
 
Not being the smartest fella on two legs, I'm not going to pretend to be a know it all regarding nukes, us, and India.

But I do know this......

Given the Bush administration's track record, any of those guys doing ANYTHING, in regards to nuclear decisions, scares the holy bejeebers outta me! :shock:
 
Captain America said:
Given the Bush administration's track record, any of those guys doing ANYTHING, in regards to nuclear decisions, scares the holy bejeebers outta me! :shock:
Excellent point. That's what I like about our policy. Let's hope India is as scared as you are.
 
KCConservative said:
Excellent point. That's what I like about our policy. Let's hope India is as scared as you are.

You sir, do make a valid point. Walk softly and carry a big stick.

Kinda sucks that today's world requires fearful relationships to survive but who am I to change the nature of the beast?

The tactics and policies regarding issues of a nuclear matter require, in my humble opinion, a collective body of greater minds than we currently have in our governmental resource pool.

I am reminded of the Pandora's Box fable. But who can deny that nukes (and the search for harnassing that energy,) has advanced mankind by leaps and bounds. It is debatable, but I am one who leans towards the opinion that, even in their worst application, ie: Japan.......it was still the lesser of the two evils.

But you can't get toothpaste back into the tube and Pandora sure as heck ain't going back into the box. So, we got to deal with it.

Think about it.....look who is holding the keys brother. And it's not just him. They are all tainted. That should concern us all. I am not comfortable with them making ANY deals with ANYBODY regarding nukes.

Just my two cents.

Walk softly............................................:gunsmilie
 
tecoyah said:
WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice called on Congress Wednesday to approve an unprecedented U.S. plan to share nuclear technology with India, saying it was "not enabling a larger weapons program."





I simply cant understand why this is at all acceptable practice.
But I suppose the evntual radioactive middleeast would be a nice vacation spot.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-04-05-riceindia_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA

How is this different than this: I thought that was Bush's reason for going there in the first place. I thought it was a done deal?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5240291

President Bush will try to establish a nuclear cooperation deal during his visit to India. Under the deal, India would be able to purchase technology from the United States as long as it allows inspections at its nuclear facilities.
 
India had Nukes waaaaaaaay, before this. And it was the Clinton was the one who gave india and china the plans for nuclear weapons. The only thing bush did was confirm that he agreed with clinton on giving India the nukes.

Which wouldn'tve mattered

So Bush just waisted time

Like he always does.
 
India conducted its first nuclear test on May 24, 1974, so if any american president was resposible for giving them the bomb, it has to be Richard "the crook" Nixon. Blaming Clinton for something that happened almost 20 years before he even ran for the White House is a bit lame.

As for Pakistan, they finally produced enough weapons grade material in 1985 (under Reagan) and were "bomb" ready in 1986 (under Reagan). The US did stop all military aid and cooperation with Pakistan in 1990 (under Bush Sr) because of this program. Pakistan has been cooperating with China and Iran above and below the radar for decades and has gotten most of its information from China. Bush JR I belive is the one who restarted military aid, but it might have been Clinton even though I have yet to find any evidence of this.

The only thing that Clinton can be "blamed" for is "letting" Pakistan test the bomb on may 28th 1998 (under Clinton).
 
Captain America said:
You sir, do make a valid point. Walk softly and carry a big stick.

Kinda sucks that today's world requires fearful relationships to survive but who am I to change the nature of the beast?

The tactics and policies regarding issues of a nuclear matter require, in my humble opinion, a collective body of greater minds than we currently have in our governmental resource pool.

I am reminded of the Pandora's Box fable. But who can deny that nukes (and the search for harnassing that energy,) has advanced mankind by leaps and bounds. It is debatable, but I am one who leans towards the opinion that, even in their worst application, ie: Japan.......it was still the lesser of the two evils.

But you can't get toothpaste back into the tube and Pandora sure as heck ain't going back into the box. So, we got to deal with it.

Think about it.....look who is holding the keys brother. And it's not just him. They are all tainted. That should concern us all. I am not comfortable with them making ANY deals with ANYBODY regarding nukes.

Just my two cents.

Walk softly............................................:gunsmilie


As Niven and Pournelle said in "Footfall", you can't put the mushroom cloud back into the steel casing.
 

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