You consider what President Truman did murder?
What do you call dropping a nuke on innocent women and children in a country which is already defeated?
Interesting characterization of events. And no, the Japanese weren't "already defeated".
By 1945, the Japanese had suffered an unbroken string of defeats for nearly two years in the South West Pacific, the Marianas campaign, and the Philippines campaign. In July 1944, following the loss of Saipan, General Hideki Tōjō was replaced as prime minister by General Kuniaki Koiso, who declared that the Philippines would be the site of the decisive battle.[1] After the Japanese loss of the Philippines, Koiso in turn was replaced by Admiral Kantarō Suzuki. The Allies captured the nearby islands of Iwo Jima and Okinawa in the first half of 1945. Okinawa was to be a staging area for Operation Downfall, the American invasion of the Japanese Home Islands.[2] Following Germany's defeat, the Soviet Union quietly began redeploying its battle-hardened European forces to the Far East, in addition to about forty divisions that had been stationed there since 1941, as a counterbalance to the million-strong Kwantung Army.[3]
The Allied submarine campaign and the mining of Japanese coastal waters had largely destroyed the Japanese merchant fleet. With few natural resources, Japan was dependent on raw materials, particularly oil, imported from Manchuria and other parts of the East Asian mainland, and from the conquered territory in the Dutch East Indies.[4] The destruction of the Japanese merchant fleet, combined with the strategic bombing of Japanese industry, had wrecked Japan's war economy. Production of coal, iron, steel, rubber, and other vital supplies was only a fraction of that before the war.
What do you call dropping a nuke on innocent women and children in a country which is already defeated?
Typical American Bull****:
Japan attacks our naval base on an island in the middle of the Pacific that is not even a state yet--worst thing ever
We nuke a city in Japan, killing a 1/4 million women, children and old men---heroic effort to end the war.
Nonsense. There was no need to invade. Japan was done, the were beaten and knew it. in the end, they were looking to negotiate a favorable peace settlement. Truman wanted unconditional surrender. Fact is the bomb was dropped somthat negotiations would not be necessary.That is so much bull ****.........In and invasion of the Japanese mainland which is what we would of had to do it was estimated we could lose a million men.......Maybe your father......think about it. The Japanese were really dug in and were willing to fight to the death.........Did you ever hear of a kamikaze? After the first bomb they were warned....They ignored the warning.
Yes it does... ....and so what !!There is a certain amount of decorum that is expected of members of the US Military. The activity shown in the photograph goes well outside the boundaries of that decorum.
Nonsense. There was no need to invade. Japan was done, the were beaten and knew it. in the end, they were looking to negotiate a favorable peace settlement. Truman wanted unconditional surrender. Fact is the bomb was dropped somthat negotiations would not be necessary.
It was mass murder done for convenience.
Easy to say now but you have to put yourself in the shoes of Americans back then. It started with the Pearl Harbor sneak attack and continued through the staggering number of casualties we suffered in that war. America was in no mood to f*** around with these guys. Surrender or die.
Yes they were.
Surrender of Japan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
They were already negotiating a surrender...obviously, because they were on the verge of starving and had nothing left with which to mount a sustained defense. Nuking them was simply a convenient way to ice that cake while also serving as the perfect test site for the new weapon.
Defense preparations
Faced with the prospect of an invasion of the Home Islands, starting with Kyūshū, and the prospect of a Soviet invasion of Manchuria—Japan's last source of natural resources—the War Journal of the Imperial Headquarters concluded:
We can no longer direct the war with any hope of success. The only course left is for Japan's one hundred million people to sacrifice their lives by charging the enemy to make them lose the will to fight.[9]
As a final attempt to stop the Allied advances, the Japanese Imperial High Command planned an all-out defense of Kyūshū codenamed Operation Ketsugō.[10] This was to be a radical departure from the defense in depth plans used in the invasions of Peleliu, Iwo Jima, and Okinawa. Instead, everything was staked on the beachhead; more than 3,000 kamikazes would be sent to attack the amphibious transports before troops and cargo were disembarked on the beach.[8]
If this did not drive the Allies away, they planned to send another 3,500 kamikazes along with 5,000 Shin'yō suicide boats and the remaining destroyers and submarines—"the last of the Navy's operating fleet"—to the beach. If the Allies had fought through this and successfully landed on Kyūshū, only 3,000 planes would have been left to defend the remaining islands, although Kyūshū would be "defended to the last" regardless.[8] The strategy of making a last stand at Kyūshū was based on the assumption of continued Soviet neutrality.[11]
A set of caves were excavated near Nagano on Honshu, the largest of the Japanese islands. In the event of invasion, these caves, the Matsushiro Underground Imperial Headquarters, were to be used by the army to direct the war and to house the Emperor and his family.
Nonsense. There was no need to invade. Japan was done, the were beaten and knew it. in the end, they were looking to negotiate a favorable peace settlement. Truman wanted unconditional surrender. Fact is the bomb was dropped somthat negotiations would not be necessary.
It was mass murder done for convenience.
Lies and you know it. You've really shown your character here.
For Tokyo the writing was on the wall. On June 18, Truman's chief of staff Admiral William D Leahy voiced the opinion that a surrender could be arranged...
Washington too decided to squelch every sign that Japan was trying to quit. When the International News Service wired on July 7, 1945 that three influential newspaper publishers captured in Okinawa had confirmed that Japan would surrender immediately provided that the United States put in only a token occupation force, the State Department forbade publication of the news.
On July 8, the Department learned that the Japanese military attaché at Stockholm had told Prince Bernadotte over dinner that the Emperor Hirohito would ask Sweden's King Gustav to contact the Allies when the right time came, and that he had stated only one Japanese condition of surrendering: namely, that the Emperor himself remain in office. (This term was subsequently adopted by the Allies).
Real History, the Bomb, and the War against Japan
How utterly dishonest of you. The very next section of the link you posted proves you a liar:
Really, are you that set on being right that you would ignore and attempt to hide facts? Were you hoping I just wouldn't notice the very next paragraph?
I don't know about that, but one of my former Soldiers did try to go into the AF after ETS, and they rejected him for the reason stated. He was a good Soldier, a good mechanic, had an education and civilian certification for his field. I went with him to see a Navy recruiter, and it was like they couldn't get him in back in boots fast enough.I was talking to an Air Force guy yesterday that said exactly that. He said even in Boot Camp they only have to "work" till 1630 then go home. Does anyone know if that is true?
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