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This land is our land!

I know your trying to blame the United States but Mexico was ****ed up before well before the Mexican American War

Well before? Mexico had only existed for a couple decades prior to the Mexican American war. It was a mess, but it was an extremely new country.
 
Americas insatiable appetite for illicit drugs and the subsequent and incorrect policy of prohibition, lead to this situation :shrug:

The American people, themselves, are to blame for the corruption, and the firepower that these cartels inflict on their home countries... why?

Because they ****ing paid for it.

I don't understand why Americans think they live in this little bubble where they're the most powerful and influential country on Earth, but they don't have the ability to affect anything... negatively.
The Mexican Drug war is pretty recent. Mexico wasn't a nice place even before then.
 
Americas insatiable appetite for illicit drugs and the subsequent and incorrect policy of prohibition, lead to this situation :shrug:

The American people, themselves, are to blame for the corruption, and the firepower that these cartels inflict on their home countries... why?

Because they ****ing paid for it.

I don't understand why Americans think they live in this little bubble where they're the most powerful and influential country on Earth, but they don't have the ability to affect anything... negatively.

Well before? Mexico had only existed for a couple decades prior to the Mexican American war. It was a mess, but it was an extremely new country.

The Mexican Wars of Independence from Spain were a mess.

Santa Anna was a mess. The whole damn thing was a mess. .

Teh American people, themselves, are hardly to blame for something which is in human nature.
 
If you ****ing scumsuckers want to be Americans....don't be patronizing your relatives who are illegal!

I understand your anger, but you're giving these folks more rage than they're worthy of.

It's a stupid protest, no doubt.

I like the Spanish people and large parts of their culture but their class system and corruption is too destructive for any of them to advance to the level of British influenced democracies.

That's a nice way of putting it.

I think there is a lot of natural sympathy for those members of their race and culture who have been left behind. I really can't blame them for that. And the idea that a significant number would want to take back California or Texas for Mexico would never get any serious support.

Yep, it's a sentiment for a very fringe group of hacks.

Nothing to get hot and bothered about.

Now, Chile and Bolivia on the other hand!

Well before? Mexico had only existed for a couple decades prior to the Mexican American war. It was a mess, but it was an extremely new country.

A couple of decades is long enough to pass judgement, not too harshly, but enough.
 
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I'm talking about supporting their relatives illegal crossing of the border. And you know they all do...but yet, they want to make America...Mexico again. One kick ass war, wasn't enough for them. These young skulls full of mush don't know their history...all they know is that obama is more for them, than legal Americans!

Why do you assume Mexican equals your relatives illegally crossed the boarder??? Is there any evidence to back up your prejudice? I don't assume all or the majority of Mexicans are illegally crossing. I am sure a lot of their relatives are legal citizens, and a lot of Mexican Americans have to regularly deal with the "paper please" stuff.
 
This is one ignorant statement. My wife is Mexican, her family is Mexican, a lot of our friends are Mexican. None of them want to be part of Mexico. There may be some that support this ****, but not all Mexicans support this by a long shot.

I took it as joke.
 
Most, I believe, would happily stay in their culture and family environment if they had decent opportunities at home.

I don't give a **** about their culture, family environment and opportunities. I want them out. All of them.
 
Why do you assume Mexican equals your relatives illegally crossed the boarder??? Is there any evidence to back up your prejudice? I don't assume all or the majority of Mexicans are illegally crossing. I am sure a lot of their relatives are legal citizens, and a lot of Mexican Americans have to regularly deal with the "paper please" stuff.

Anyone who needs an adjective in front of American to define himself should be deported.
 
The Mexican Wars of Independence from Spain were a mess.

Santa Anna was a mess. The whole damn thing was a mess. .

Teh American people, themselves, are hardly to blame for something which is in human nature.
Wasn't blaming anyone for anything. To clarify, I don't have a problem with the US taking over what is now the southwest US. Mexico wasn't doing anything with it. Almost none of the people living in the region were loyal to Mexico.
 
Wasn't blaming Americans for anything. To clarify, I don't have a problem with the US taking over what is now the southwest US. Mexico wasn't doing anything with it. Almost none of the people living in the region were loyal to Mexico.

Even the friggin Mexican governor of California didn't want to be run from Mexico City, if I recall correctly.
 
Anyone who needs an adjective in front of American to define himself should be deported.

Nobody "needs" the adjective--- it's just how people classify each other more then anything else .
 
Anyone who needs an adjective in front of American to define himself should be deported.

The funny thing is that I think you're serious. Fortunately, such childish legislation would never be given serious consideration in the real world.
 
Even the friggin Mexican governor of California didn't want to be run from Mexico City, if I recall correctly.

Most of the Californios were still loyal to Spain. I think American settlers outnumbered them at this point as well. And the native americans didn't have any input in the matter in any case. They're still here anyway, I should know, lost $500 at one of their casinos early today :(
 



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It's all about More For Me....these days...We Want, We Demand, We Protest, or ...We Riot!

If you ****ing scumsuckers want to be Americans....don't be patronizing your relatives who are illegal!

Do you have any evidence that a significant number of hispanics want the United States to cede territory to Mexico? I could show you a few neo-nazi posters from a Trump rally and I'm sure you'd (with some real justification) dismiss it.
 
¡ Qué estúpido hilo.
 
I dislike Trump, but the attitude that Europeans/whites don't belong in America or somehow desecrated the land is not only flat out racist and offensive but also wrong.

Prior to European settlement it wasn't this happy utopia of natives living in peace... They had warriors, wars, territorial fights, and were hardly a unified "native" race of people. It was diverse and made up of many different nations. Prior to Europeans claiming the land the Native Americans fought and killed each other over it. The only difference is that superior technology and weapons gave Europeans the edge and ultimately allowed for the colonies to expand under British and other European rule before breaking off from those countries during the revolutionary war.

America was never "Mexican" and the ignorant or somehow wrong claims that people of European descent need to leave or were wrong to come to the Americas is highly offensive, racist, and ignorant. People of European descent have been living here for over 300 years now among many numerous people from different backgrounds and corners of the world.
 
I dislike Trump, but the attitude that Europeans/whites don't belong in America or somehow desecrated the land is not only flat out racist and offensive but also wrong.

Prior to European settlement it wasn't this happy utopia of natives living in peace... They had warriors, wars, territorial fights, and were hardly a unified "native" race of people. It was diverse and made up of many different nations. Prior to Europeans claiming the land the Native Americans fought and killed each other over it. The only difference is that superior technology and weapons gave Europeans the edge and ultimately allowed for the colonies to expand under British and other European rule before breaking off from those countries during the revolutionary war.

America was never "Mexican" and the ignorant or somehow wrong claims that people of European descent need to leave or were wrong to come to the Americas is highly offensive, racist, and ignorant. People of European descent have been living here for over 300 years now among many numerous people from different backgrounds and corners of the world.

You make too much sense, therefore, you are a bigot, a racist, or both. Don't believe me? Ask any liberal.

BTW, I refuse to respond to any questions about my race if the form has "white" box instead of "European American".
 
I dislike Trump, but the attitude that Europeans/whites don't belong in America or somehow desecrated the land is not only flat out racist and offensive but also wrong.

Prior to European settlement it wasn't this happy utopia of natives living in peace... They had warriors, wars, territorial fights, and were hardly a unified "native" race of people. It was diverse and made up of many different nations. Prior to Europeans claiming the land the Native Americans fought and killed each other over it. The only difference is that superior technology and weapons gave Europeans the edge and ultimately allowed for the colonies to expand under British and other European rule before breaking off from those countries during the revolutionary war.

America was never "Mexican" and the ignorant or somehow wrong claims that people of European descent need to leave or were wrong to come to the Americas is highly offensive, racist, and ignorant. People of European descent have been living here for over 300 years now among many numerous people from different backgrounds and corners of the world.

Mexican isn't a race, it's a nationality. Mexico had immigrants from all over the world just like the US. Just find your post confusing. I'm Mexican (born in the DF) and don't have any Amerindian ancestry.
 
I dislike Trump, but the attitude that Europeans/whites don't belong in America or somehow desecrated the land is not only flat out racist and offensive but also wrong.

Prior to European settlement it wasn't this happy utopia of natives living in peace... They had warriors, wars, territorial fights, and were hardly a unified "native" race of people. It was diverse and made up of many different nations. Prior to Europeans claiming the land the Native Americans fought and killed each other over it. The only difference is that superior technology and weapons gave Europeans the edge and ultimately allowed for the colonies to expand under British and other European rule before breaking off from those countries during the revolutionary war.

America was never "Mexican" and the ignorant or somehow wrong claims that people of European descent need to leave or were wrong to come to the Americas is highly offensive, racist, and ignorant. People of European descent have been living here for over 300 years now among many numerous people from different backgrounds and corners of the world.
A large part of america was apart of mexico

mexico_1824.jpg


and who said white people dont belong in America? It seems like theyre the only people who do belong?
 
Most of the Californios were still loyal to Spain. I think American settlers outnumbered them at this point as well. And the native americans didn't have any input in the matter in any case. They're still here anyway, I should know, lost $500 at one of their casinos early today :(

The Native Americans lost their wars with Spain many years earlier. But hey at least they got to take your money :mrgreen:

It's really bugging me I can't remember what the name of the Mexican governor was. I read it in an old book about Western exploration (Men to Match My Mountains or something like that).
 
This is one ignorant statement. My wife is Mexican, her family is Mexican, a lot of our friends are Mexican. None of them want to be part of Mexico. There may be some that support this ****, but not all Mexicans support this by a long shot.

My Wife and two adult Daughters are Hispanic-Americans. They do NOT want open borders with Mexico, or huge numbers of ignorant, diseased, skill-less, demanding, violent, drug addicted, drug dealing, and costly Illegal Immigrants from Mexico, Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador...

They do NOT want Atzlan.

They do NOT want the Reconquista!

But the American Lefties do!

WHY?!

Ask yourself, WHY does the Left want a break apart of the United States into Ethnic Enclaves?

Is this orchestrated payback for the collapse of the Soviet Union?

Is this a stepping stone to a Tyrannical, Authoritarian, U.N. based Socialist World Government?

And there is another, more important WHY to ask as well....

WHY are we Native-Born Americans of ANY Race putting up with it?!!!

God Damn the LEFT!

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These Invaders do NOT want to become Americans, they want to take California, Texas, New Mexico and Arizona to become part of Mexico.

https://twitter.com/ThisIsFusion/status/726141966841315329

Watch the video.

This is the concept from some, (but not all), of the Illegal Immigrants.

They are NOT planning on working, or assimilating as Americans, they are coming here to "Reconquista" the southwest back to Mexico.

This is about Invasion and Conquest.

And we are stupid enough to allow the Far-Lefties to aid and abet the Enemy in an Invasion of Foreigners who plan to break apart our nation.

This isn't about RACE, this is about National Sovereignty!

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My Wife and two adult Daughters are Hispanic-Americans. They do NOT want open borders with Mexico, or huge numbers of ignorant, diseased, skill-less, demanding, violent, drug addicted, drug dealing, and costly Illegal Immigrants from Mexico, Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador...

They do NOT want Atzlan.

They do NOT want the Reconquista!

But the American Lefties do!

WHY?!

Ask yourself, WHY does the Left want a break apart of the United States into Ethnic Enclaves?

Is this orchestrated payback for the collapse of the Soviet Union?

Is this a stepping stone to a Tyrannical, Authoritarian, U.N. based Socialist World Government?

And there is another, more important WHY to ask as well....

WHY are we Native-Born Americans of ANY Race putting up with it?!!!

God Damn the LEFT!

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Will the left kill us all with EBOLA?

Stay Tuned folks, all these questions will be answered and much... much more!!!!!!!!!
 
Mexican isn't a race, it's a nationality. Mexico had immigrants from all over the world just like the US. Just find your post confusing. I'm Mexican (born in the DF) and don't have any Amerindian ancestry.

The body does not know where it was born.

I don't think people know the difference between a nationality and a race any more, o they say "You know what I mean".
 
My Wife and two adult Daughters are Hispanic-Americans. They do NOT want open borders with Mexico, or huge numbers of ignorant, diseased, skill-less, demanding, violent, drug addicted, drug dealing, and costly Illegal Immigrants from Mexico, Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador...

They do NOT want Atzlan.

They do NOT want the Reconquista!

But the American Lefties do!

WHY?!

Ask yourself, WHY does the Left want a break apart of the United States into Ethnic Enclaves?

Is this orchestrated payback for the collapse of the Soviet Union?

Is this a stepping stone to a Tyrannical, Authoritarian, U.N. based Socialist World Government?

And there is another, more important WHY to ask as well....

WHY are we Native-Born Americans of ANY Race putting up with it?!!!

God Damn the LEFT!

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Democrats need supporters and voters and flooding the Nation with people who are predisposed to Socialism and used to corrupt Govts is a win win for them

It wasn't that long ago that the Venezuelan people were talked into full on Socialism and that kind of naivete and gullibility in a population is a dream come true for the modern democrat party

The more uneducated, low IQ people they can snag with their divisive and baseless narratives the better off the are
 
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