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Third night of unrest in Sweden over far-right anti-Islam rally

Have you ever read the Koran and seen all of the commandments in it on how to kill and oppress non Muslims?

So, do you really want to stick to the claim that anti- Muslim protests, including burning a book, or pouring pig blood on it, is actually worse than what Islam teaches to do to non believers?

If these Muslim immigrants did not want to live in a country where people have a right to free speech and free expression of ideas, then why did they immigrate to Sweden?
Have you ever read the bible? It is far far worse than the Koran.
 
Have you ever read the bible? It is far far worse than the Koran.
No, it’s not. But that aside neither book is particularly terrible, except to cowardly modern leftists. They are very intimidated by the idea that societies should be masculine and embody martial values
 
Yes they can: Voting and eligibility rights were granted to all foreign residents with a 3 years residence condition

Ohh you should know better...

This is classic mis-information by omitting certain very important facts.

Yes voting and eligibility rights are granted to all foreign RESIDENTS in Sweden for LOCAL elections..... not national elections.
 
God is good, some blasphemy laws might do society good as well.
Yes. **** the 1st Amendment. Let's have blasphemy laws. Just shoot me now. With citizens like this maybe the country deserves to fall.
 
No one has yet quoted anything terrible in the Quran.
 
Yes. **** the 1st Amendment. Let's have blasphemy laws. Just shoot me now. With citizens like this maybe the country deserves to fall.
The first amendment never was intended to protect things like blasphemy or burning the flag.

It wasn’t until the 60s when pro-communism subversives began making these arguments to legalize their behavior
 
They are very intimidated by the idea that societies should be masculine and embody martial values
"Embody marital values" such as not retaining the individual right to not have sex with one's spouse if either of the spouses is not in the mood to engage in sexual activity when the other spouse is? Those "marital values"?
 
Slaughter no,
Joshua 10:10 --- And the LORD discomfited them before Israel, and slew them with a great slaughter at Gibeon, and chased them along the way that goeth up to Bethhoron, and smote them to Azekah , and unto Makkedah.
 
The first amendment never was intended to protect things like blasphemy or burning the flag.

It wasn’t until the 60s when pro-communism subversives began making these arguments to legalize their behavior
Nonsense. The 1st Amendment was created to protect unpopular speech. I think you're in the wrong place. There are plenty of places with laws against blasphemy in the Middle East. Free countries just aren't for you.
 
God wiped out the entire planet with a flood. Just Noah's family was left. Question: Do you think the terrible inbreeding cuased by this event is responsible for how screwed up we are?
 
The thing is, Paludan is exploiting a situation for his own political gain....He has been chased out of Denmark, and has chosen Sweden because as a citizen, they cant kick him out.

Sweden has gotten a lot of refugees over the years and has failed in integrating some of them into society. It is a general problem in all of Scandinavia, where underlying racism or xenophobia is a problem. This, like the US and in part the UK, has spread to the police, who target "brown" people as all "brown" people are likely criminals. This leads to high animosity towards the police in migrant communities.

Now you can say.. but why dont they just integrate. Well it is not so simple. Most want to integrate, but when you are refused a job based on your first or last name for the 100th time, then well...

There is a story out of Denmark years ago. Iraqi kid flees with his family to Denmark in the 1970s and he becomes a Danish citizen. He goes to university and becomes an telecom engineer with high grades. He cant get a job in Denmark, despite there being a need for telecom engineers. He then reluctantly moves to Belgium and gets a job in Belgian Telecom and goes up the ranks and becomes part of the leadership. Years later, the former Danish telecom giant buys Belgian Telecom and he is chosen as the guy from Belgian Telecom to work out of the main office in Copenhagen. There he becomes boss for... the guys who refused to hire him a decade earlier in Denmark... irony no? This is a story repeated across the western world.

Poverty, discrimination, lack of opportunity and so on, creates the problem we are seeing in Sweden and other western countries. BLM is a direct consequence of racism, poverty and discrimination. The Tottenham riots in the UK were a direct result of police violence against black men in the UK and so on and so on.

Regardless of why... The Swedish police, in my opinion, are partially to blame for all this violence. They dont HAVE to give Paludan and his nazi followers permission to hold these gatherings and yet they do for some reason.
 
Nonsense. The 1st Amendment was created to protect unpopular speech.
No, it wasn’t. That’s a modern creation.
I think you're in the wrong place.
Not an argument
There are plenty of places with laws against blasphemy in the Middle East.
There in fact are, and there were also blasphemy laws universal to the entire world until the French Revolution
Free countries just aren't for you.
No modern western state can accurately be described as a free country, chances are good that if you are not politically opposed to, say, the regime in Saudi Arabia the government regulates you less then in the US.
 
The thing is, Paludan is exploiting a situation for his own political gain....He has been chased out of Denmark, and has chosen Sweden because as a citizen, they cant kick him out.

Sweden has gotten a lot of refugees over the years and has failed in integrating some of them into society. It is a general problem in all of Scandinavia, where underlying racism or xenophobia is a problem. This, like the US and in part the UK, has spread to the police, who target "brown" people as all "brown" people are likely criminals. This leads to high animosity towards the police in migrant communities.

Now you can say.. but why dont they just integrate. Well it is not so simple. Most want to integrate, but when you are refused a job based on your first or last name for the 100th time, then well...

There is a story out of Denmark years ago. Iraqi kid flees with his family to Denmark in the 1970s and he becomes a Danish citizen. He goes to university and becomes an telecom engineer with high grades. He cant get a job in Denmark, despite there being a need for telecom engineers. He then reluctantly moves to Belgium and gets a job in Belgian Telecom and goes up the ranks and becomes part of the leadership. Years later, the former Danish telecom giant buys Belgian Telecom and he is chosen as the guy from Belgian Telecom to work out of the main office in Copenhagen. There he becomes boss for... the guys who refused to hire him a decade earlier in Denmark... irony no? This is a story repeated across the western world.

Poverty, discrimination, lack of opportunity and so on, creates the problem we are seeing in Sweden and other western countries. BLM is a direct consequence of racism, poverty and discrimination. The Tottenham riots in the UK were a direct result of police violence against black men in the UK and so on and so on.

Regardless of why... The Swedish police, in my opinion, are partially to blame for all this violence. They dont HAVE to give Paludan and his nazi followers permission to hold these gatherings and yet they do for some reason.
So if Sweden is so racist and xenophobic isn’t the solution to deport all foreigners and ban all immigration?

Why should people who the population hate by allowed to live with them in an alleged democracy?

It is also the case that foreigner in Sweden cause a great deal of crime, which is why they’re targetted by police. It’s good policing to target demographics who commit the most crime, it’s why Chinese people are nearly never targetted by law enforcement in western countries. The difference though between American and Sweden is, in America the demographic that commits the most crime are also citizens with the longest roots in the country, whereas in Sweden they unwisely chose to admit their problem demographics in, and large numbers of them can have visa status removed and sent home if the government grows enough sense

I would agree with one thing though, it’s not so easy to integrate into a new society, which is why it shouldn’t be flippantly expected, and is also why immigration policy should be written to reflect that. Especially in countries that exist as ethnostates. Maybe in new world countries like the US and Mexico and Argentina and Brazil different people can learn to coexist because they don’t have thousands of years of history, but even then it needs to be considered.
 
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The thing is, Paludan is exploiting a situation for his own political gain....He has been chased out of Denmark, and has chosen Sweden because as a citizen, they cant kick him out.

Sweden has gotten a lot of refugees over the years and has failed in integrating some of them into society. It is a general problem in all of Scandinavia, where underlying racism or xenophobia is a problem. This, like the US and in part the UK, has spread to the police, who target "brown" people as all "brown" people are likely criminals. This leads to high animosity towards the police in migrant communities.

Now you can say.. but why dont they just integrate. Well it is not so simple. Most want to integrate, but when you are refused a job based on your first or last name for the 100th time, then well...

There is a story out of Denmark years ago. Iraqi kid flees with his family to Denmark in the 1970s and he becomes a Danish citizen. He goes to university and becomes an telecom engineer with high grades. He cant get a job in Denmark, despite there being a need for telecom engineers. He then reluctantly moves to Belgium and gets a job in Belgian Telecom and goes up the ranks and becomes part of the leadership. Years later, the former Danish telecom giant buys Belgian Telecom and he is chosen as the guy from Belgian Telecom to work out of the main office in Copenhagen. There he becomes boss for... the guys who refused to hire him a decade earlier in Denmark... irony no? This is a story repeated across the western world.

Poverty, discrimination, lack of opportunity and so on, creates the problem we are seeing in Sweden and other western countries. BLM is a direct consequence of racism, poverty and discrimination. The Tottenham riots in the UK were a direct result of police violence against black men in the UK and so on and so on.

Regardless of why... The Swedish police, in my opinion, are partially to blame for all this violence. They dont HAVE to give Paludan and his nazi followers permission to hold these gatherings and yet they do for some reason.
You got some points, but in this case you are missing that these specific events has nothing to do with racism. It was criminals that oppose the latest years of focus from the police and their main purpose was killing police officers. They are not religious or concerned about racism or anything like that, they just hoped for regular citizens protesting and wanted to use them as shields, but regular protesters only showed up at the first place so.....
 
You got some points, but in this case you are missing that these specific events has nothing to do with racism. It was criminals that oppose the latest years of focus from the police and their main purpose was killing police officers. They are not religious or concerned about racism or anything like that, they just hoped for regular citizens protesting and wanted to use them as shields, but regular protesters only showed up at the first place so.....
They may well perceive racism though and that’s part of their justification for attacking cops.
 
So if Sweden is so racist and xenophobic isn’t the solution to deport all foreigners and ban all immigration?
You do understand the difference between being outright racist and xenophobic in law, vs an underlying racist/xenophobia in society that is not reflected in law?

Why should people who the population hate by allowed to live with them in an alleged democracy?
Alleged democracy? Sweden is far more democratic than the US.

And they are only there, because of American wars around the world.... so...

It is also the case that foreigner in Sweden cause a great deal of crime, which is why they’re targetted by police. It’s good policing to target demographics who commit the most crime, it’s why Chinese people are nearly never targetted by law enforcement in western countries.

Most crime in Sweden and any other country is done by its own citizens.

Poverty creates crime, and since most immigrants/refugees are poor, then they are relatively more involved in crime compared to locals... but locals still dwarf others in crime statistics.

Chinese people are rarely targeted for various reasons.

First off, there are not as many Chinese/Asians in Sweden and else where, compared to other nationalities.

Secondly, Chinese/Asians are rarely refugees, but in fact enter the country to do a job.

Thirdly, they are also rarely poor since they work.
 
You got some points, but in this case you are missing that these specific events has nothing to do with racism. It was criminals that oppose the latest years of focus from the police and their main purpose was killing police officers. They are not religious or concerned about racism or anything like that, they just hoped for regular citizens protesting and wanted to use them as shields, but regular protesters only showed up at the first place so.....
I understand, but why are these young men, usually of migrant background (first or second generation), becoming criminals? I would say lack of opportunities.

And lets be real here. It is far far easier for a cop to pick out a brown faced man among a bunch of white faces, than it is to find someone white within a group of white faces.

If cops are told, or think that chances of a brown faced person is doing something criminal, then they will focus on these brown faces and not on the harder to pick out white faces.

It is the same with poverty. Cops know from experience that there is a lot of crime easily "solved" in poor areas. But I would wager, that if cops did the same in traditional "white areas", that the crime rates would be similar.... especially when it comes to drugs, rapes and violence. It is just that cops dont go to rich areas to look for crime/criminals, where as they do go to poor areas to look for crimes/criminals.

And when young migrant men are treated like criminals by police for just standing around being bored because society has denied them access to jobs and opportunities because they have a funny name or/and look different.. they at some point they will boil over and strike out at the nearest "enemy" which happens to be the police.

What we are seeing in Sweden, is happening in all countries to one degree or another.
 
You do understand the difference between being outright racist and xenophobic in law, vs an underlying racist/xenophobia in society that is not reflected in law?
I don’t think it makes a difference as related to immigration policy
Alleged democracy? Sweden is far more democratic than the US.
Well except you think Sweden apprently is racist for having law based on Swedish tradition
And they are only there, because of American wars around the world.... so...
No, they’re not. These are near exclusively economic migrants, and occasionally losers in civil wars.
Most crime in Sweden and any other country is done by its own citizens.
Migrants commit more crime in Sweden


Based on 33 per cent of the population (2017), 58 per cent of those suspect for total crime on reasonable grounds are migrants. Regarding murder, manslaughter and attempted murder, the figures are 73 per cent, while the proportion of robbery is 70 per cent. Non-registered migrants are linked to about 13 per cent of total crime. Given the fact that this group is small, crime propensity among non-registered migrants is significant.


Poverty creates crime,
No it doesn’t. This is asserted as true but it’s largely a myth.,
and since most immigrants/refugees are poor, then they are relatively more involved in crime compared to locals... but locals still dwarf others in crime statistics.
No, born Swedes do not dwarf Muslims in Crime statistics.
Chinese people are rarely targeted for various reasons.
Like coming from a rigid society which is peaceful and compliance with the law is instinctive
First off, there are not as many Chinese/Asians in Sweden and else where, compared to other nationalities.

Secondly, Chinese/Asians are rarely refugees, but in fact enter the country to do a job.

Thirdly, they are also rarely poor since they work.
 
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I understand, but why are these young men, usually of migrant background (first or second generation), becoming criminals? I would say lack of opportunities.

So they should lack opportunities in their home country and not be a problem in Sweden
And lets be real here. It is far far easier for a cop to pick out a brown faced man among a bunch of white faces, than it is to find someone white within a group of white faces.
Especially since the “brown” person is more likely to commit crimes and not respect Swedish society
If cops are told, or think that chances of a brown faced person is doing something criminal, then they will focus on these brown faces and not on the harder to pick out white faces.
And the fact that “brown people” as you Define commit more crime
It is the same with poverty. Cops know from experience that there is a lot of crime easily "solved" in poor areas. But I would wager, that if cops did the same in traditional "white areas", that the crime rates would be similar.... especially when it comes to drugs, rapes and violence.
Maybe, you have no evidence of this, but assuming it’s true in arguendo, in wealthy areas the crime you’re claiming happens doesn’t lead to Public disorder. Homeless people shooting heroin on the streets are a public health and order problem that does not exist if a Hollywood star is snorting cocaine in their mansion.
It is just that cops dont go to rich areas to look for crime/criminals, where as they do go to poor areas to look for crimes/criminals.
Because there’s no public order problems created by whatever you claim is occurring. I live in a working class neighborhood, 10 miles away is Beverly Hills, rich people engaging in debauchery in private house parties don’t effect me like the atmosphere created by “poor” drug use and prostitution and vagrancy.
And when young migrant men are treated like criminals by police
police in Sweden grab migrants with those wire nooses and put them in kennels? Is that what you’re alleging?
for just standing around being bored because society has denied them access to jobs and opportunities because they have a funny name or/and look different..
ok, that’s a reason to deport them and not admit more. I don’t know if this allegation is even true though, because Mexicans can sneak into the US and make money despite not speaking English or having legal documentation. Maybe these refugees just expect to be taken care of and have no hustle
they at some point they will boil over and strike out at the nearest "enemy" which happens to be the police.
So they can’t comply with social expectations, see above.
What we are seeing in Sweden, is happening in all countries to one degree or another.
Well not true, it’s not happening in Hungary.
 
Our news media would never cover this story. Sweden is the land of hot blonde women and socialist policy happiness.
Right, as usual.



 
A bunch of bigots decided to do something deeply bigoted and, surprise surprise, people don’t like that. If it was a bunch of Muslims burning Bibles on yesterday you’d be shrieking your rage to the sky, so, again, spare us the bullshit.

I’ll give you a hint— nowhere is there a “right to a positive reaction”. Nobody is obligated to be okay with bigoted actions towards their religion(and if you really don’t see how desecrating a Koran, or burning it, is bigoted, then you’ve got MUCH bigger problems).
The fact of the matter is that Jester isn't wrong here.

And your example is lacking, because even if Jester didn't like the fact that they were burning bibles. Jester wouldn't go out to burn cars and destroy property that isn't his.
 
100 young Muslims in Sweden have rioted.

There are 1 million Muslims in Sweden.

If my calculation is correct, it means that 99.99% of Muslims in Sweden did NOT riot this weekend ...

Hmm… does that make it a “mostly peaceful” riot. ;)
 
Burning a religious book with the knowledge that this will infuriate believers is unnecessary and idiotic.

The Neo-Nazi book burning is therefore not free speech really, but incitement of hatred.

Hmm… does that apply to flag burning?
 
Have you ever read the bible? It is far far worse than the Koran.
Well, when Christians start beheading people and flying airplanes full of jet fuel into skyscrapers while yelling Jesus is great! Well, then I guess I start to take notice of what their book says.
 
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