Third night of unrest in Sweden over far-right anti-Islam rally

[Tender Branson]

Unrest broke out in southern Sweden late on Saturday despite police moving a rally by an anti-Islam far-right group, which was planning to burn a Qur’an among other things, to a new location as a preventive measure.

Scuffles and unrest were reported in the southern town of Landskrona after a demonstration scheduled there by the Danish right-wing party Stram Kurs party was moved to the nearby city of Malmo, 27 miles south.

Opponents of Stram Kurs numbering up to 100 mostly young people threw stones, set cars, tires and dustbins on fire, and put up a barrier fence that obstructed traffic, Swedish police said. The situation had calmed down in Landskrona by late Saturday but remains tense, police said, adding no injuries were reported.

Kim Hild, spokesperson for police in southern Sweden, had said earlier on Saturday that police would not revoke permission for the Landskrona demonstration, organised by the Stram Kurs party, because the free-speech threshold for doing that is very high in Sweden.

The right of the protesters “to demonstrate and speak out weighs enormously, heavily and it takes an incredible amount for this to be ignored”, Hild told Swedish news agency TT.

Since Thursday, clashes have been reported also in Stockholm and in the cities of Linkoping and Norrkoping – all locations where Stram Kurs either planned or had demonstrations.

On Friday evening, violent clashes between demonstrators and counter-protesters erupted in the central city of Orebro ahead of Stram Kurs’ plan to burn a Qur’an there, leaving 12 police officers injured and four police vehicles set on fire.

Video footage and photos from chaotic scenes in Orebro showed burning police cars and protesters throwing stones and other objects at police officers in riot gear.

At Saturday’s demonstration in a park in Malmö, Stram Kurs’ leader Rasmus Paludan addressed a few dozen people. A small number of counter-protesters threw stones at demonstrators and police were forced to use pepper spray to disperse them.

Paludan himself was reported to have been hit on his leg by a stone, Swedish media said. No serious injuries were reported, according to police.

Paludan, a Danish lawyer who also holds Swedish citizenship, set up Stram Kurs, or Hard Line, in 2017. It runs on an anti-immigration and anti-Islam agenda.

Third night of unrest in Sweden over far-right anti-Islam rally

Demonstrators threw stones and burned vehicles during a protest against an anti-Islam event organised by Danish far-right Stram Kurs party

www.theguardian.com

Completely unnecessary provocation by these Neo-Nazis. You don't burn regular books, like the Nazis did, or religious books that many hold dear.

 

[Court Jester]

Completely unnecessary provocation by these Neo-Nazis. You don't burn regular books, like the Nazis did, or religious books that many hold dear.

Have you ever read the Koran and seen all of the commandments in it on how to kill and oppress non Muslims?

So, do you really want to stick to the claim that anti- Muslim protests, including burning a book, or pouring pig blood on it, is actually worse than what Islam teaches to do to non believers?

If these Muslim immigrants did not want to live in a country where people have a right to free speech and free expression of ideas, then why did they immigrate to Sweden?

 

[Tender Branson]

Have you ever read the Koran and seen all of the commandments in it on how to kill and oppress non Muslims?

So, do you really want to stick to the claim that anti- Muslim protests, including burning a book, or pouring pig blood on it, is actually worse than what Islam teaches to do to non believers?

If these Muslim immigrants did not want to live in a country where people have a right to free speech and free expression of ideas, then why did immigrate to Sweden?

Islam doesn't teach anything.

The Quran, like the Bible and other religious books, can be interpreted in many ways.

In the 1600s and before, Christendom was not different to Muslims today, interpreting the Bible in a way to slaughter and subjugate others.

It is sad that 90% of Muslims today interpret the Quran in the same strict way, but this can and will change in the next few hundred years.

 

[Loulit01]

Have you ever read the Koran and seen all of the commandments in it on how to kill and oppress non Muslims?

Have you? Cite a couple.

So, do you really want to stick to the claim that anti- Muslim protests, including burning a book, or pouring pig blood on it, is actually worse than what Islam teaches to do to non believers?

If these Muslim immigrants did not want to live in a country where people have a right to free speech and free expression of ideas, then why did they immigra

 

[Grandpappy]

Our news media would never cover this story. Sweden is the land of hot blonde women and socialist policy happiness.

 

[ChickenTendies]

Have you ever read the Koran and seen all of the commandments in it on how to kill and oppress non Muslims?

So, do you really want to stick to the claim that anti- Muslim protests, including burning a book, or pouring pig blood on it, is actually worse than what Islam teaches to do to non believers?

If these Muslim immigrants did not want to live in a country where people have a right to free speech and free expression of ideas, then why did they immigrate to Sweden?

Islamophobia right out of the gates. Impressive

 

[Court Jester]

Islamophobia right out of the gates. Impressive

Oh, I'm sorry. But correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it Muslims in Sweden who are rioting, breaking windows, throwing rocks, and burning cars?

Hey, if it Catholics, Jews, or Buddhists doing the mayhem, then I will retract my previous comment.

 

[LostinThought]

Have you ever read the Koran and seen all of the commandments in it on how to kill and oppress non Muslims?

So, do you really want to stick to the claim that anti- Muslim protests, including burning a book, or pouring pig blood on it, is actually worse than what Islam teaches to do to non believers?

If these Muslim immigrants did not want to live in a country where people have a right to free speech and free expression of ideas, then why did they immigrate to Sweden?

Actual free speech is such a rare thing across the world.

It's funny that so many people are coming out against the original rally goers, instead of those actually committing violence.

 

[Tender Branson]

Oh, I'm sorry. But correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it Muslims in Sweden who are rioting, breaking windows, throwing rocks, and burning cars?

Hey, if it Catholics, Jews, or Buddhists doing the mayhem, then I will retract my previous comment.

100 young Muslims in Sweden have rioted.

There are 1 million Muslims in Sweden.

If my calculation is correct, it means that 99.99% of Muslims in Sweden did NOT riot this weekend ...

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Unrest broke out in southern Sweden late on Saturday despite police moving a rally by an anti-Islam far-right group, which was planning to burn a Qur’an among other things, to a new location as a preventive measure.

Scuffles and unrest were reported in the southern town of Landskrona after a demonstration scheduled there by the Danish right-wing party Stram Kurs party was moved to the nearby city of Malmo, 27 miles south.

Opponents of Stram Kurs numbering up to 100 mostly young people threw stones, set cars, tires and dustbins on fire, and put up a barrier fence that obstructed traffic, Swedish police said. The situation had calmed down in Landskrona by late Saturday but remains tense, police said, adding no injuries were reported.

Kim Hild, spokesperson for police in southern Sweden, had said earlier on Saturday that police would not revoke permission for the Landskrona demonstration, organised by the Stram Kurs party, because the free-speech threshold for doing that is very high in Sweden.

The right of the protesters “to demonstrate and speak out weighs enormously, heavily and it takes an incredible amount for this to be ignored”, Hild told Swedish news agency TT.

Since Thursday, clashes have been reported also in Stockholm and in the cities of Linkoping and Norrkoping – all locations where Stram Kurs either planned or had demonstrations.

On Friday evening, violent clashes between demonstrators and counter-protesters erupted in the central city of Orebro ahead of Stram Kurs’ plan to burn a Qur’an there, leaving 12 police officers injured and four police vehicles set on fire.

Video footage and photos from chaotic scenes in Orebro showed burning police cars and protesters throwing stones and other objects at police officers in riot gear.

At Saturday’s demonstration in a park in Malmö, Stram Kurs’ leader Rasmus Paludan addressed a few dozen people. A small number of counter-protesters threw stones at demonstrators and police were forced to use pepper spray to disperse them.

Paludan himself was reported to have been hit on his leg by a stone, Swedish media said. No serious injuries were reported, according to police.

Paludan, a Danish lawyer who also holds Swedish citizenship, set up Stram Kurs, or Hard Line, in 2017. It runs on an anti-immigration and anti-Islam agenda.

Third night of unrest in Sweden over far-right anti-Islam rally

Demonstrators threw stones and burned vehicles during a protest against an anti-Islam event organised by Danish far-right Stram Kurs party

www.theguardian.com

Completely unnecessary provocation by these Neo-Nazis. You don't burn regular books, like the Nazis did, or religious books that many hold dear.

So your thread could be much shorter if it read “young leftists engage in political violence”

 

[Tender Branson]

So your thread could be much shorter if it read “young leftists engage in political violence”

How do you know the young Muslim rioters are leftist ?

It is likely the opposite: they are radicalized, meaning they are right-wing.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Islam doesn't teach anything.

The Quran, like the Bible and other religious books, can be interpreted in many ways.

Lol I love it when liberal white atheists start claiming to be Islamic scholars

In the 1600s and before, Christendom was not different to Muslims today, interpreting the Bible in a way to slaughter and subjugate others.

Slaughter no, subjugation yes. Subjugation however is not morally wrong in and of itself

It is sad that 90% of Muslims today interpret the Quran in the same strict way, but this can and will change in the next few hundred years.

Good, let it change in the Muslim world, and not in Europe

 

[Bodi]

Completely unnecessary provocation by these Neo-Nazis. You don't burn regular books, like the Nazis did, or religious books that many hold dear.

It is like burning the Flag. If people can not handle free speech then they can **** off and get out of a free society.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

How do you know the young Muslim rioters are leftist ?

It is likely the opposite: they are radicalized, meaning they are right-wing.

They vote exclusively for left wing parties. True this is self interest in most cases and not ideological, but you’re happy to take their votes

 

[EMNofSeattle]

It is like burning the Flag. If people can not handle free speech then they can **** off and get out of a free society.

Burning the flag should be a crime. Some speech should not be free. Speech communicating athiesm for example should be criminal and not covered under free speech, which is what John Locke himself wrote

 

[Bodi]

It is sad that 90% of Muslims today interpret the Quran in the same strict way, but this can and will change in the next few hundred years.

That sounds reasonable... let's wait a few hundred years.

For ****'s sake... what? LOL

 

[Bodi]

Islamophobia right out of the gates. Impressive

What is phobic about expecting people to not kill people over burning a book?

 

[Tender Branson]

They vote exclusively for left wing parties. True this is self interest in most cases and not ideological, but you’re happy to take their votes

That is, as a matter of fact, false.

Non-citizens cannot vote in Sweden.

And if they get citizens after a few years, and Sweden has almost 90% turnout in non-mandatory voting, they actually vote very diverse as studies show. Many immigrants from the middle east also vote conservative or far-right.

There is not much of a difference in how immigrants vote compared to ethnic Swedes. The left-wing for example has been more influential in the 1960s and 1970s already than it is now.

 

[Bodi]

100 young Muslims in Sweden have rioted.

There are 1 million Muslims in Sweden.

If my calculation is correct, it means that 99.99% of Muslims in Sweden did NOT riot this weekend ...

So since it is a small number it is OK. Cool. Got it.

 

[Tigerace117]

Have you ever read the Koran and seen all of the commandments in it on how to kill and oppress non Muslims?

So, do you really want to stick to the claim that anti- Muslim protests, including burning a book, or pouring pig blood on it, is actually worse than what Islam teaches to do to non believers?

If these Muslim immigrants did not want to live in a country where people have a right to free speech and free expression of ideas, then why did they immigrate to Sweden?

Christians have slaughtered literally hundreds of millions over the years, yet you’d be outraged if a bunch of Muslim nutjobs got together and started burning Bibles all over the place. So spare us the posturing.

The right’s desperation to excuse religious bigotry is utterly pathetic.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

That is, as a matter of fact, false.

Non-citizens cannot vote in Sweden.

And if they get citizens after a few years, and Sweden has almost 90% turnout in non-mandatory voting, they actually vote very diverse as studies show. Many immigrants from the middle east also vote conservative or far-right.

Yeah, I doubt Muslims are voting for the Sweden democrats.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Christians have slaughtered literally hundreds of millions over the years, yet you’d be outraged if a bunch of Muslim nutjobs got together and started burning Bibles all over the place. So spare us the posturing.

The right’s desperation to excuse religious bigotry is utterly pathetic.

Oh look everyone’s favorite moralistic tankie has arrived.

 

[Bodi]

Non-citizens cannot vote in Sweden.

Yes they can: Voting and eligibility rights were granted to all foreign residents with a 3 years residence condition

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[Tender Branson]

What is phobic about expecting people to not kill people over burning a book?

Burning a religious book with the knowledge that this will infuriate believers is unnecessary and idiotic.

The Neo-Nazi book burning is therefore not free speech really, but incitement of hatred.

 

[Centrist]

Islam was founded in the year 600.

so is 600 years newer than Christianity.

Where was Christianity 600 years ago?

I wonder how many of you met Muslim intellectuals to have a discussion about geopolitics instead of watching Fox News. That requires to be open minded.