They Waited, They Worried, They Stalled. This Week, They Got the Shot.

[NewfieMom]

The Conservative Republican Governor of Alabama Kay Ivey shocked many people with her outspoken criticism of people who refuse to get vaccinated. She has blamed them for all of the current problems the United States is having with its new cases of covid-19.

"Alabama Republican Gov. Kay Ivey on Thursday called out 'the unvaccinated folks' for the rise in Covid-19 cases in her state, a remarkable plea at a time when many GOP leaders are refusing to urge people to get vaccinated even as Covid-19 cases surge in many parts of the country. 'Folks are supposed to have common sense. But it’s time to start blaming the unvaccinated folks, not the regular folks. It’s the unvaccinated folks that are letting us down,' Ivey told reporters in Birmingham.

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Asked by reporters Thursday about plans to issue a mask mandate or other restrictions now that Covid cases are starting to rise again in her state, Ivey replied, 'The new cases of Covid are because of unvaccinated folks. Almost 100% of the new hospitalizations are with unvaccinated folks. And the deaths are certainly occurring with unvaccinated folks.' The unvaccinated, Ivey said, are 'choosing a horrible lifestyle of self-inflicted pain.'”

 

[NewfieMom]

No, they are saying they dont work. They are saying wear the mask. Teachers unions are loudly saying they dont work by refusing to teach class even though they are vaccinated.

Citation, please.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

" In so far as the vaccines preventing a serious Covid infection, and virtually eliminating your odds of being hospitalized or dying from Covid should you be infected, the jury is not out. We know that the vaccines are extremely effective in that regard and we know that they are extremely effective for at least several months after being vaccinated. " <<<< This is a huge qualifier.

And I've already made my choice.

If your choice was to remain unvaccinated, it was certainly a choice, but that doesn't mean it was a good one, and if that is the case, I hope you reconsider.

 

[nota bene]

If your choice was to remain unvaccinated, it was certainly a choice, but that doesn't mean it was a good one, and if that is the case, I hope you reconsider.

My choice was my decision, and that's the point. I'm an adult who can make decisions for herself; I don't need a mandate and would likely rebel against it.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

My choice was my decision, and that's the point. I'm an adult who can make decisions for herself; I don't need a mandate and would likely rebel against it.

There isn’t going to be a national legal mandate requiring everyone to be vaccinated so I am not sure what you are talking about there.

I am not sure why you would be so obtuse about whether or not you chose to be vaccinated.

 

[nota bene]

There isn’t going to be a national legal mandate requiring everyone to be vaccinated so I am not sure what you are talking about there.

I am not sure why you would be so obtuse about whether or not you chose to be vaccinated.

I think you meant "opaque."

 

[Anthony60]

The Trump crime family will be in jail.

Yes, I know. We've been hearing that for five years. They tried manufacturing evidence, since they couldn't find any actual evidence, and that hasn't worked. Maybe jail him for crimes he might commit in the future? That's about all you have left.

 

[Mongidig]

My choice was my decision, and that's the point. I'm an adult who can make decisions for herself; I don't need a mandate and would likely rebel against it.

Many people obviously do need a mandate or there would be no reason for there to be a mandate.

 

[Anthony60]

What exactly is Marxist about anything the Democrats passed or are proposing? What Article and Section of the Constitution are Democrats violating?

The fact is, Republicans have a long, disreputable history of conflating any attempt to improve American lives with the evils of “socialism.” When Medicare was first proposed, Ronald Reagan called it “socialized medicine,” and he declared that it would destroy our freedom. These days, if you call for something like universal child care, conservatives accuse you of wanting to turn America into the Soviet Union.

None of the prominent Democrats, even AOC and Bernie Sanders aren’t actually socialists in any normal sense of the term. They don’t want to nationalize our major industries and replace markets with central planning; they haves expressed admiration, not for Venezuela, but for Denmark, that, in fact, is quite a nice places to live, with societies that are, if anything, freer than our own.

No, it's really the Democrats with the history of hate and now ramping up the new Marxism. The cutting of police, the chaos, the government mandates and power grabs. They hardly go a day without attempting to take more freedoms. They want one party rule, so they can really show you their Marxism. And the useful idiots are paving the way.

 

[nota bene]

Many people obviously do need a mandate or there would be no reason for there to be a mandate.

That's some kind of logic.

 

[MTAtech]

No, it's really the Democrats with the history of hate and now ramping up the new Marxism. The cutting of police, the chaos, the government mandates and power grabs. They hardly go a day without attempting to take more freedoms. They want one party rule, so they can really show you their Marxism. And the useful idiots are paving the way.

Cutting the police is Marxism? That's idiotic. In any case, Democrats aren't cutting the police.
The idea that we never had chaos under Republican control is bad history -- but certainly not Marxism.
As for power grabs and one-party rule, that's what Republicans are trying to do by trying to put their thumb on the outcomes of elections regardless of the will of the people. Under their rule, they denied President Obama filling a Supreme Court vacancy, under the phony claim that you shouldn't fill a vacancy within a year of the next election -- and then filled a Trump nominee within a month of the presidential election.
Regarding taking away freedoms, what constitutional rights have you lost under Democrats? I really must laugh at right wingers who don't want to get vaccinated because government shouldn't be telling them what to do with their bodies, just as they try to dictate what women can't do with their bodies. However, that's got nothing to do with Marxism either.
So, it's clear that you have a vague, wishy-washy concept of Marxism but you really have no idea what it is, which is what I suspected. Thanks for relieving all doubts.

 

[Anthony60]

Cutting the police is Marxism? That's idiotic. In any case, Democrats aren't cutting the police.
The idea that we never had chaos under Republican control is bad history -- but certainly not Marxism.
As for power grabs and one-party rule, that's what Republicans are trying to do by trying to put their thumb on the outcomes of elections regardless of the will of the people. Under their rule, they denied President Obama filling a Supreme Court vacancy, under the phony claim that you shouldn't fill a vacancy within a year of the next election -- and then filled a Trump nominee within a month of the presidential election.
Regarding taking away freedoms, what constitutional rights have you lost under Democrats? I really must laugh at right wingers who don't want to get vaccinated because government shouldn't be telling them what to do with their bodies, just as they try to dictate what women can't do with their bodies. However, that's got nothing to do with Marxism either.
So, it's clear that you have a vague, wishy-washy concept of Marxism but you really have no idea what it is, which is what I suspected. Thanks for relieving all doubts.

Ah, the standard twisting and misdirection, no big surprise. Nobody said cutting police is Marxism, it's just an means to an end. The big picture is what you are ignoring, of course, because you must.

 

[Top Cat]

Yes, I know. We've been hearing that for five years. They tried manufacturing evidence, since they couldn't find any actual evidence, and that hasn't worked. Maybe jail him for crimes he might commit in the future? That's about all you have left.

Keep drinking that Fox Kool-Aid. The only reason your idol didn't get thrown out of office is because the republicans always choose party over country. Something you personify.

 

[Anthony60]

Keep drinking that Fox Kool-Aid. The only reason your idol didn't get thrown out of office is because the republicans always choose party over country. Something you personify.

Nancy Pelosi made a mockery of our Constitution with her two sham impeachments. She should never be in any position of power, what a piece of human debris.

I notice that you didn't post a single shred of evidence (since it doesn't exist), just personal attacks. The left is good at those.

 

[RAMOSS]

I think the jury is still out on the vaccines. For example, are we all going to have to have boosters this fall? Will the next-gen oral vaccines being developed be far more effective? We don't know yet.

That is an unknown. I know pfizer is developing one for the delta variant, but with the current information, many experts do not think it will be needed, except for the immune compromised. They find that 44% of the people who have been vaccinated who ended up in the hospital are the ones with a compromised immune system to start with. they are 2.3% of the populatoin,but almost 50% of the people who got vaccinated needing to be hospitalized.

 

[nota bene]

That is an unknown. I know pfizer is developing one for the delta variant, but with the current information, many experts do not think it will be needed, except for the immune compromised. They find that 44% of the people who have been vaccinated who ended up in the hospital are the ones with a compromised immune system to start with. they are 2.3% of the populatoin,but almost 50% of the people who got vaccinated needing to be hospitalized.

I'm one of those people with a compromised immune system. With local numbers spiking again, I guess I'll be going back into self-isolation soon.

 

[Top Cat]

Nancy Pelosi made a mockery of our Constitution with her two sham impeachments. She should never be in any position of power, what a piece of human debris.

I notice that you didn't post a single shred of evidence (since it doesn't exist), just personal attacks. The left is good at those.

The evidence? Are you ****ing kidding me? Wow, you got it bad. Let me guess. You think 1/6 was something other than insurrection? And that Trump didn't incite the riot?

 

[nota bene]

The evidence? Are you ****ing kidding me? Wow, you got it bad. Let me guess. You think 1/6 was something other than insurrection? And that Trump didn't incite the riot?

Neither Trump nor 1-6 is the topic of this thread.

 

[RAMOSS]

I'm one of those people with a compromised immune system. With local numbers spiking again, I guess I'll be going back into self-isolation soon.

That will be wise even if vaccinated, It's a shame you need to

 

[Top Cat]

Neither Trump nor 1-6 is the topic of this thread.

And neither are the numerous off-topic comments made by the poster I was posting with. But you chose to comment on my post and not his? Gee I wonder why?

 

[nota bene]

And neither are the numerous off-topic comments made by the poster I was posting with. But you chose to comment on my post and not his? Gee I wonder why?

Because I came onto this thread only when I logged in a bit ago. Don't flatter yourself; consider instead that I haven't read all the pages of this thread.

 

[nota bene]

That will be wise even if vaccinated, It's a shame you need to

All I can do is continue to be careful. I hope others will be too because it's not just about us; it's about everybody else with whom we come into contact.

 

[Queen Margo]

So a bunch of assholes waited until they thought maybe the pandemic would affect them personally?

Perhaps. Much like a bunch of assholes would wait until they were robbed or their child raped before they went out and bought a gun to protect their lives. Always changes people when it gets to hitting home.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I just want to know why none of our many televangelists show up at hospitals and do miracle cures for all their COVID infected parishioners.

 

[OscarLevant]

I agree. Once the FDA decides to stop stalling and give it the general stamp of approval, vaccine rates will see a huge rise.

But they are approved.

FDA EUAs (emergency use authorization) and FDA BLAs (Biologics license application, i.e. 'full FDA approval') are no different in terms of safety . Covid mRNA vaxxes have EUA by the FDA.

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