I don't get my news like your from programming sites. I see or talk to 40+ people per day (all employed) and we see what is going on.
I make great money and have great health insurance. Another RW meme.
Talking to your buddies is called anecdotal evidence. Not really a study. This is why it is so difficult to discuss something as complex as a national healthcare system with the RWers.
So pretty much all you know about healthcare is what 40 of your buddies tell you a day and what you hear in the RW noise machine.
meh, must be why most of the counties that have it are in worse economical shape that we are
Dman, I stayed on this thread till it got to sillyville.
Are you attempting to imply I am not a hetorsexual?
that is a classic chicken **** statement, someone has to pay, why shoudl it always be the ones willing to work? Conservatives contribute more to charity than liberals, why, because liberals are selfish and petty
It's almost as though you have no sense of patriotism or morality -- it is stunning. How can you be so hateful towards your own brethren? I just don't understand such vitriolic resistance to what could only benefit your nation.
It's almost as though you have no sense of patriotism or morality -- it is stunning. How can you be so hateful towards your own brethren? I just don't understand such vitriolic resistance to what could only benefit your nation.
I do not believe in socialism. I feel no pity for people that make bad choices and then whine after their realities change later in life. Choices make people what they are most of the time. Working class should not bear that result
You can not be serious. What you're saying is that you feel no pity for your dying countrymen due to your political slant.
That is absolutely abhorrent.
Is it okay with you enough to not lock them in a cage for not wanting to fund it?
You pay for it anyway, in the least efficient why possible. I love the conservatives give more to charity thing, I hang out on very conservative forums too, about every few months one of them start a thread bragging about how much charity they give. Guilt maybe?
You can not be serious. What you're saying is that you feel no pity for your dying countrymen due to your political slant.
That is absolutely abhorrent.
I do not believe in socialism. I feel no pity for people that make bad choices and then whine after their realities change later in life. Choices make people what they are most of the time. Working class should not bear that result
36 countries have better health care than the U.S. I have to wonder about that. I am always reading about people from all over the world coming to the U.S. to get the best health care the world has. Now all of a sudden, we are number 37 over night. Something with the title here does not equate with me. I have been perfectly satisfied and happy with the healthcare I and my family have received over my long life. So the U.S. ranking 37th in the world in health care just doesn’t make sense.
A thought crossed my mind. I now wonder if the ranking was based on quantity instead of quality. That those of us in the U.S. receive the best health care good insurance and money can buy. But those at the bottom of the spectrum, with no insurance and little money get or receive very poor health care. So perhaps the title is dealing with quantity and health care availability to one and all and not the quality of health care this nation can provide.
In other words, the U.S. has the highest quality of healthcare available in the world, but not all can partake of that quality. So it seems the goal of the ACA, to me anyway, is to downgrade the quality of healthcare that is provided to most Americans who had insurance prior to the passage of the ACA in order to give healthcare to everyone. Sort of dumbing down our healthcare system like our public school system has been dumbed down. Our public school system now teaches or brings down the education to the lowest or poorest student. Is our healthcare system going the same way. Bringing down the quality of it so everyone can partake of it? It seems that way.
Perhaps if the quality of healthcare drops for the 80% while giving healthcare to the remaining 20% our standing will in the world soar from number 37 upwards while in reality the quality will have dropped immensely and we are no longer able to proved the highest quality of health care in the world.
Just some thoughts.
That's not it at all and a horrible characterization. Look, people as a group decide what balance they'll accept between capitalism and socialism and they move towards that goal. Pros and cons exist for each balance point. Feeling pity for people achieves absolutely nothing, it's a self-serving emotion and it's the actions taken that count in the real world. Pointing out that people dig themselves into their own holes doesn't imply that we shouldn't give them at least a hand up out of said hole. It's a truism - people chose and sometimes, perhaps for some often, make terrible choices that make their lives unmanageable later on.
For us it's freedom to be able to chose the course of one's life, for good or ill. For you folks it's not, you'd rather be taken care of no matter what bad choices you make. That's fine too and much to be said for the nanny form of governing. Doesn't mean it works for us.
I am mildly interested in how graduation standards have changed during the same period.Overall, despite the many challenges of educating more diverse students, I think our country is better off educating more people.
Table 1: Percentage of Students Graduating from High School* Year Percentage
1899-1900 6.4
1909-1910 8.8
1919-1920 16.8
1929-1930 29.0
1939-1940 50.8
1941-1942 51.2
1943-1944 42.3
1945-1946 47.9
1947-1948 54.0
1949-1950 59.0
1951-1952 58.6
1953-1954 60.0
1955-1956 62.3
1957-1958 64.8
1959-1960 65.1
1961-1962 69.5
1963-1964 76.7
*This table is reproduced from Kenneth A. Simon and W. Vance Grant, Digest of Educational Statistics, Office of Education, Bulletin 1965, No. 4 (Washington, D.C., U.S. Government Printing Office, 1965).
U.S. High School Graduation Rates | Safe & Civil Schools
"....A new analysis from the Editorial Projects in Education Research Center finds that the graduation rate for America's public schools stands just shy of 75 percent for the class of 2010, the most recent year for which data are available.
The graduation rate, which has risen nearly 2 full percentage points from the previous year and 8 points in the past decade, has reached its highest point since 1973. At the current pace of improvement, the portion of students earning a diploma could surpass the historical high of 77.1 percent within the next few years....."
U.S. Graduation Rate Highest in 40 Years | NEA Today
Overall, despite the many challenges of educating more diverse students, I think our country is better off educating more people.
Table 1: Percentage of Students Graduating from High School* Year Percentage
1899-1900 6.4
1909-1910 8.8
1919-1920 16.8
1929-1930 29.0
1939-1940 50.8
1941-1942 51.2
1943-1944 42.3
1945-1946 47.9
1947-1948 54.0
1949-1950 59.0
1951-1952 58.6
1953-1954 60.0
1955-1956 62.3
1957-1958 64.8
1959-1960 65.1
1961-1962 69.5
1963-1964 76.7
*This table is reproduced from Kenneth A. Simon and W. Vance Grant, Digest of Educational Statistics, Office of Education, Bulletin 1965, No. 4 (Washington, D.C., U.S. Government Printing Office, 1965).
U.S. High School Graduation Rates | Safe & Civil Schools
"....A new analysis from the Editorial Projects in Education Research Center finds that the graduation rate for America's public schools stands just shy of 75 percent for the class of 2010, the most recent year for which data are available.
The graduation rate, which has risen nearly 2 full percentage points from the previous year and 8 points in the past decade, has reached its highest point since 1973. At the current pace of improvement, the portion of students earning a diploma could surpass the historical high of 77.1 percent within the next few years....."
U.S. Graduation Rate Highest in 40 Years | NEA Today
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