The World Hates America!

[GottaHurt]

Untrue. You're talking about a continent where some countries have unemployment a few percentage points higher than the US, and some lower. So no, the majority of the active population does have jobs.

Nice try. Your unemployment numbers get scarier by the year.Need I remind you, you formed a Union, because the majority of those stellar economic bastions of hope, were on the verge of collapse.

And when you're employed too, but not in the US where you may have to work two jobs to scrape a living

Don't confuse two income families with working two jobs.As I stated before, our standard of living is far higher, we expect a lot more, due to the fact, that the majority of Americans play a little game called "keeping up with the Jones'".We're spoiled, and we love it!

where your holidays virtually don't exist etc.

No, we just don't go to Europe anymore! High prices and rude people, why bother? After the architecture and history, there's not much else.
Been there done that, I'd rather be in the islands.

You work longer hours because you're slaves to capitalism.

We're slaves to nothing. We choose to make more money, or not.

You get hardly any time to play

Say's who?
So we work 40 hours, you work 35, big whoop, you get 5 hours a week to jerk around more.Actually, it'd be more, since the majority of us here in America do volunteer and charity work, it's very rewarding, you might want to try it sometime.I'll send you some literature on it if you want.

your standard of living is greatly offset by your lack of health and social coverage.

Bullshit. This is the biggest lie of all propogated by the left.We have free health care in our country, available to all, even if you're here illegally! We have health depts in every state, and hospitals cannot refuse treatment, to anyone, period. The majority of us choose to purchase our own private health care.

Any extra income you can't enjoy since it has to go your health care and pensions.

Again, more bullshit.See above for healthcare, as for pensions we don't trust the government to handle our personal finances. We gave the liberals their little "socialism" experiment in the form of Social Security, and like all socialist type programs, it has failed miserably.We knew this, that is precisely why we have 401k's, IRA's, mutual funds, annuities, savings bonds, real estate and the list goes on and on and on.Anyone STUPID enough to put their personal finances and/or retirement in the hands of their government, deserves to live and feed in squaller.

 

[GottaHurt]

We don't support many countries, that's Europe not the US, a perfect example could be that just a few days ago, Tony Blair asked Bush to give 25 billion dollars like Britain just did, but Bush gave a pitiful 600 million, and the war in iraq has costed over a hundred billion is it? And the Government constantly hands out billions of dollars to businesses,

Quite the propaganda machine you are. A pitiful 600 million? Bush said no, unless there's accountabilty. We've already pumped billions into Africa, and the people are still starving and dying.This time 'round, we said no, it only winds up in the hands of the warlords and corrupt governments.Bush did exactly the right thing on this one.

 

[Pacridge]

Typical lib response, when faced with the harsh realities of the truth.

Reality? Truth? You seriously think people in other countries don't bath or brush their teeth?

 

[BigMoose67]

Alright, I've snapped. I think if you people hate the US so much why don't you guys patition your government and make them start a war with us.(if your allowed to do that). This is crazy I know, but if we seriously deserve to be hated because we are capitalist and use the power we have, then maybe you guys should teach us a lesson. But you know what it won't happen. Not because you wouldn't do it, but because you couldn't. You people are upset that we are the only world power thats all it is. You continuously talk of our history in Vietnam and Iraq, okay, look at your own histories. Most of Europe citizens were oppressed until the American Revolution gave you ideas. We know we make mistakes and we know it and we make it public so the world can see that we **** up. You say we're arrogant, but we do nothing but we continuously help you. You say we use "bully tactics", who the hell are you to talk about bulling. You say that we are stupid because we are capitalist, yet we are the prosperous nation. You say we are fat and lazy, come to Mississippi and talked to Robert Jackson(an 84 year old man, who works in the pastures all day) and no he is not poor and needs money. You say we have a stupid leader, okay, but your upset because he affects you just as much as he does us. You guys can't help being mad. You guys are like little loser kids from high school who hate the popular kids. Grow up. When was the last time your country what ever it is did anything to help some third world country that the US wasn't already in. You can up with all the reasons you want to hate us, but there simply isn't a single good reason to hate America. You can hate us, you can scream that and burn our flag and spit in our faces. It doesn't matter, as long as we are there you know there is always help for you. It doesn't matter if you hate us because it is meaningless. I haven't seen one reason in all of these ignorant posts to suggest we deserve any of your ****. But I have to take it and every American is going to have to take it and the next time we are there and everyone else has run away we won't think about that we'll be thinking of the best way to get everyone out of the situation. So I guess I'm just saying that it no longer matters to me if you guys hate us or if you think I'm wrong or anything else. I may be arrogant, ignorant of the world, and hated, but as I'm damn proud to know that I'm still the good guy.

 

[RightinNYC]

China doesn't need to attack you. Its culture is slowly invading your society and its economy will dwarf yours.

Where on earth did you get the idea that China's culture is invading the US? In all seriousness, I've seen nothing at all that would imply that. If anything, it's the exact opposite. The US has long been derided for exporting its culture everywhere, and China is no different.

And it's a bit premature to be making statements about what will happen to China's economy. Remember when people were talking about the incredible economic powerhouse that the EU was going to be?

 

[GottaHurt]

Reality? Truth? You seriously think people in other countries don't bath or brush their teeth?

First, I never said they didn't bathe, more liberal spin on such an easy list to read. And yes, their "grills" are seriously neglected. I work in the 2nd largest tourist mecca in the US, I see them first hand.

 

[Pacridge]

First, I never said they didn't bathe, more liberal spin on such an easy list to read. And yes, their "grills" are seriously neglected. I work in the 2nd largest tourist mecca in the US, I see them first hand.

You're right you said they didn't use deodorant implying they smell. Still insulting. Your whole post was stereo typing and insulting. If someone made such comments about the US and it's people I have a feeling you'd be insulted. But you are correct, I did mis-read your deodorant statement and thought you were saying they stink because they don't bath, not because they don't use deodorant.

 

[GottaHurt]

You're right you said they didn't use deodorant implying they smell. Still insulting. Your whole post was stereo typing and insulting. If someone made such comments about the US and it's people I have a feeling you'd be insulted. But you are correct, I did mis-read your deodorant statement and thought you were saying they stink because they don't bath, not because they don't use deodorant.

Thank you, I appreciate the fact that you took the time to re-read my post and the way I worded it. I write very specific for a reason.You were correct in saying my list was/is insulting and arrogant, I wrote it that way for a reason.The topic of this thread is "The World Hates America", and is filled with generalizations, stereotypes and flat out lies, from both sides of the argument.

I made the list to point out to the "America Haters" that for every accusation, generalization, stereotype and lie that is leveled against America, that there is good deed or action that we've done, or a comparision between our different cultures.If they want to point a finger at us and critisize, then they shouldn't get bent, when we point out what our society sees as strange or bizaare.The eating of snails would be the example here, while they are served in various restaurants, I think it's safe to say, it's not a part of our diets, for a reason.

 

[Pacridge]

Thank you, I appreciate the fact that you took the time to re-read my post and the way I worded it. I write very specific for a reason.You were correct in saying my list was/is insulting and arrogant, I wrote it that way for a reason.The topic of this thread is "The World Hates America", and is filled with generalizations, stereotypes and flat out lies, from both sides of the argument.

I made the list to point out to the "America Haters" that for every accusation, generalization, stereotype and lie that is leveled against America, that there is good deed or action that we've done, or a comparision between our different cultures.If they want to point a finger at us and critisize, then they shouldn't get bent, when we point out what our society sees as strange or bizaare.The eating of snails would be the example here, while they are served in various restaurants, I think it's safe to say, it's not a part of our diets, for a reason.

So to prove they're wrong for their ignorant arrogant statements you provided some of your own?

 

[GottaHurt]

So to prove they're wrong for their ignorant arrogant statements you provided some of your own?

Ignorant?

Main Entry: ig·no·rant
Pronunciation: 'ig-n(&-)r&nt
Function: adjective
1 a : destitute of knowledge or education <an ignorant society>; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified <parents ignorant of modern mathematics> b : resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence <ignorant errors>
2 : UNAWARE, UNINFORMED
- ig·no·rant·ly adverb
- ig·no·rant·ness noun

I notice you're not debating my list, but then, when no valid argument can be made, name calling seems to be the only recourse for some.

Main Entry: big·ot
Pronunciation: 'bi-g&t
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French, hypocrite, bigot
: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices
- big·ot·ed /-g&-t&d/ adjective
- big·ot·ed·ly adverb

Bigoted and arrogant would better serve your non argument.

 

[Pacridge]

Ignorant?

Main Entry: ig·no·rant
Pronunciation: 'ig-n(&-)r&nt
Function: adjective
1 a : destitute of knowledge or education <an ignorant society>; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified <parents ignorant of modern mathematics> b : resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence <ignorant errors>
2 : UNAWARE, UNINFORMED
- ig·no·rant·ly adverb
- ig·no·rant·ness noun

I notice you're not debating my list, but then, when no valid argument can be made, name calling seems to be the only recourse for some.

Main Entry: big·ot
Pronunciation: 'bi-g&t
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French, hypocrite, bigot
: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices
- big·ot·ed /-g&-t&d/ adjective
- big·ot·ed·ly adverb

Bigoted and arrogant would better serve your non argument.

Debate your list? Debate what? You start off with:

We brush our teeth
They don't
We use deodorant
They don't


What do you want? You want me to post tooth paste sales world wide to prove poeple really do brush their teeth? Ok,

http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/ticker/article.asp?Symbol=US:CL&Feed=PR&Date=20050427&ID=4766079

Should I go find deodorant sales reports as well?

Or do you think traveling Americans are purchasing all these products?

 

[GottaHurt]

Reality? Truth? You seriously think people in other countries don't bath or brush their teeth?

You question the reality and the truth of my list, then went on to question if people in other countries don't brush their teeth.

Yet you offer no argument or proof against my claims.You can only call my list arrogant and ignorant, because you can't dispute the truth with a single item on the list.Typical lib, nothing to say, just rhetoric against the truth.

 

[realist]

I'm not French.
Typically short-sighted United Statesian.

Your a benefactor of U.S. policy, you should know this being an educator, but your clearly a projectionist. French or whatever you are.

 

[nkgupta80]

Yet you offer no argument or proof against my claims.You can only call my list arrogant and ignorant, because you can't dispute the truth with a single item on the list.Typical lib, nothing to say, just rhetoric against the truth.

You actually believe the stuff in the list? I thought it was just some joke. We're not the only people who eat chicken, beef or fish, or use toothpaste and deoderant. The world didn't destroy the world trade center. The world didn't give us aids. We got socialism in our government too. Whats up with soccer vs. futbol, its the same thing.

Other countries can say the same thing about us.

"We're skinny, the US is fat."
"The US supported Saddaam, and now they hate him"
"We condemn dictatorships, US supports dictatorships"
"We disarm nukes, the US makes more"

blah blah blah

This may sound like the most ignorant **** to you, but thats exactly how ur list of things sounds.

 

[GottaHurt]

You actually believe the stuff in the list? I thought it was just some joke. We're not the only people who eat chicken, beef or fish, or use toothpaste and deoderant. The world didn't destroy the world trade center. The world didn't give us aids. We got socialism in our government too. Whats up with soccer vs. futbol, its the same thing.

Other countries can say the same thing about us.

Obviously you skipped right past post #192 :roll:

 

[Pacridge]

You question the reality and the truth of my list, then went on to question if people in other countries don't brush their teeth.

Yet you offer no argument or proof against my claims.You can only call my list arrogant and ignorant, because you can't dispute the truth with a single item on the list.Typical lib, nothing to say, just rhetoric against the truth.

I don't question whether people in other countries brush their teeth. I question your absurd claim that they don't.

 

[GottaHurt]

I don't question whether people in other countries brush their teeth. I question your absurd claim that they don't.

So you're 100% convinced, that every single person outside of the United States brushes their teeth?

 

[Soviet_Guy]

Okay, people, people, ( man I have a nack for starting popular polls :gunsmilie ) are we missing the point of this topic, it has become a debate between three people now, why can you not just tilt you head to see the resulting poll.

 

[Pacridge]

Okay, people, people, ( man I have a nack for starting popular polls :gunsmilie ) are we missing the point of this topic, it has become a debate between three people now, why can you not just tilt you head to see the resulting poll.

I've tilted my head, I see your poll. I just didn't vote in it as you left all the country's I'm currently disliking off the list. North Korea and Iran didn't even make your list. I just assumed your point was to get as many people as possible to vote they hated the US more then any other's on the list.

 

[GottaHurt]

Okay, people, people, ( man I have a nack for starting popular polls :gunsmilie ) are we missing the point of this topic, it has become a debate between three people now, why can you not just tilt you head to see the resulting poll.

The Whole of the Middle East isn't a nation, and, the Poll is "What is the most hated Nation in the World?" and you only listed 3, plus an entire region.

So seeing how your poll is about as valid as your posts, it was just easier to hijack your thread (which you can't do jacksh!t about) and go in a different direction.

 

[guns_God_glory]

I've tilted my head. The poll isn't really big enough France isn't even up there. Still we know you hate us. We don't care.

 

[Urethra Franklin]

Nice try. Your unemployment numbers get scarier by the year.Need I remind you, you formed a Union, because the majority of those stellar economic bastions of hope, were on the verge of collapse. .

Would that be why unemployment has fallen where I live?

And now that we have formed a union, we're no longer on the verge of collapse, and you're scared of that.

Don't confuse two income families with working two jobs..

I'm not. Are you?

As I stated before, our standard of living is far higher, we expect a lot more, due to the fact, that the majority of Americans play a little game called "keeping up with the Jones'".We're spoiled, and we love it!.

What a superficial nation.
And those who can't keep up due to accident, disability, illness, unemployment, sheer bad luck; they just fall by the wayside as you've no real welfare system to speak of. Nice.

No, we just don't go to Europe anymore! High prices and rude people, why bother? After the architecture and history, there's not much else.
Been there done that, I'd rather be in the islands.!.

Oh if only that were true! You can't walk the streets of Paris without tripping over a fat United Statesian tourist. You love it! You come in your droves and you can't get enough, though yes, it is more difficult for you know with a **** poor dollar worth 20 - 30 cents less than it was at the introduction of the Euro. Sadly, you can't eat out in Paris without the whine of a United Statesian from the next table. Ciome and spend your money - it's all you're good for, but please, learn to keep your voices at a reasonable level. Why is it you all shout? As if people are actually interested in what United Statesians have to say?

We're slaves to nothing. We choose to make more money, or not..!.

You're slaves to the capitalist system. You have to try to make money, and if you can't through no fault of your own you sink.

Say's who?
So we work 40 hours, you work 35, big whoop, you get 5 hours a week to jerk around more.Actually, it'd be more, ..!.

5 hours is alot extra to spend with your partner or your kids. It's an immense social advance.

since the majority of us here in America do volunteer and charity work, it's very rewarding, you might want to try it sometime...!.

You need to. There's no welfare. You actually help the government shirk it's reponsibilities.

Bullshit. This is the biggest lie of all propogated by the left.We have free health care in our country, available to all, even if you're here illegally! We have health depts in every state, and hospitals cannot refuse treatment, to anyone, period. ...!.

You might get patched up in dire emergencies, but that's it. You have neither quality health care nor preventive medecine from the state. In Europe we do. And your private system spends more per head for poorer health outcomes because you're ripped off in true capitalist style. French hospitals repeatedly top international league tables - a state system available to all.

The majority of us choose to purchase our own private health care....!.

You have to. You'd die otherwise. You know that Medicare and Medicaid provide the bare minimum only.

Again, more bullshit.See above for healthcare, as for pensions we don't trust the government to handle our personal finances. We gave the liberals their little "socialism" experiment in the form of Social Security, and like all socialist type programs, it has failed miserably.We knew this, that is precisely why we have 401k's, IRA's, mutual funds, annuities, savings bonds, real estate and the list goes on and on and on.Anyone STUPID enough to put their personal finances and/or retirement in the hands of their government, deserves to live and feed in squaller.

And therein lies the difference between stupid US government, and the many European governments who have provided for their elderly. And by the way, it's "squalor" in English.

 

[Urethra Franklin]

10 eurocents is quite a big deal. .

In which case being between 20 - 30 cents more against the dollar than at it's introduction, is an even bigger deal.

 

[Comrade Brian]

"We're skinny, the US is fat."
"The US supported Saddaam, and now they hate him"
"We condemn dictatorships, US supports dictatorships"
"We disarm nukes, the US makes more"QUOTE]

Truth

 

[Comrade Brian]

How is that truth? You're basing your opinion on a nation of over 200 million people based on stereotypes!
I'm American as hell, my family on both sides has been here since the 1700s, and yet
I am not fat
I never liked Saddam
I hate dicatorships
And I have never made a nuke

You can't judge a country as a whole based on the government, especially a government that changes as rapidly as ours.

So you're in no place to talk about my country, because you are easily as arrogant and ignorant to the things you speak of as ANY American.

So, I'm an American, and a newsflash for you, the Government never changes, it changes central-right-winged capitalist for central-left-winged capitalist

try introducing left-wing