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The Catholic church educates more people,cares for more sick people than any other organization in the world .
In the NY/NJ area the Catholic church runs the main AIDS treatment centers .
 

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JOHNYJ said:
The Catholic church educates more people,cares for more sick people than any other organization in the world .
In the NY/NJ area the Catholic church runs the main AIDS treatment centers .
And the Catholic church with its voodoo beliefs about safe sex is the largest organization in the world that's helping spread the pandemic of AIDS in Africa.
 

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shuamort said:
And the Catholic church with its voodoo beliefs about safe sex is the largest organization in the world that's helping spread the pandemic of AIDS in Africa.

Yea, Pope Benedict XVI is inciting Africans to stop the spread of AIDS and HIV through fidelity and not condoms. They will have sexual relations anyway, and then they will listen to him and not use condoms; a real genocide commited by a criminal Pope.
 

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JOHNYJ said:
The Catholic church educates more people,cares for more sick people than any other organization in the world .
In the NY/NJ area the Catholic church runs the main AIDS treatment centers .

Exactly, and currently Catholic Charities is one of the leading contributors to the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

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Yea, Pope Benedict XVI is inciting Africans to stop the spread of AIDS and HIV through fidelity and not condoms. They will have sexual relations anyway, and then they will listen to him and not use condoms; a real genocide commited by a criminal Pope.

You still have yet to comprehend what I've been telling you about the Catholic Church. It lives in the spiritual world, not the realistic world. God and his wishes come first. Using condoms is indeed not warranted by God. Therefore don't use them. No ones forcing Africans to believe this; if they don't want to then they shouldn't.
 

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You still have yet to comprehend what I've been telling you about the Catholic Church. It lives in the spiritual world, not the realistic world. God and his wishes come first. Using condoms is indeed not warranted by God. Therefore don't use them. No ones forcing Africans to believe this; if they don't want to then they shouldn't.

O really? Do you think they should practice abstinence? Try making kids practice abstinence. That's laughable. They have a hard enough time keeping it in their pants. What should we tie them to they're beds? We wouldn't have sex organs if we weren't meant to use them.
 

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kal-el said:
O really? Do you think they should practice abstinence? Try making kids practice abstinence. That's laughable. They have a hard enough time keeping it in their pants. What should we tie them to they're beds? We wouldn't have sex organs if we weren't meant to use them.

If they are denout Catholics, then they should only engage in intercourse... with the intention of a potential child being the outcome. I'm a "kid," and I've practiced abstinence fine. I know many who have as well. And the Catholic Church is only forcing this doctrine onto those who want to believe in it. If you don't want to be Catholic, then don't.
 

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KevinWan said:
If they are denout Catholics, then they should only engage in intercourse... with the intention of a potential child being the outcome. I'm a "kid," and I've practiced abstinence fine. I know many who have as well. And the Catholic Church is only forcing this doctrine onto those who want to believe in it. If you don't want to be Catholic, then don't.

Ok, I can agree on that.
 

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Oh yeah I forgot among the thousand other things Americans hate and must destroy...catholics are on the list too.

Carefull who you call American! :damn
 

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KevinWan said:
If you don't want to be Catholic, then don't.

That's all very well, except:

"Hello, little starving third world person. I'll give you a little bowl of rice if you'll let me indoctrinate you about god and condoms."

Makes me so mad that, inspired by the lovely Galenrox, I just want to say that the Pope is a hypocritical mother-phucking piece of sh1t who probably screws little boys in his palatial splendour while millions starve to death, and the Vatican should be turned into a gay bathhouse.
 

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Naughty Nurse said:
That's all very well, except:

"Hello, little starving third world person. I'll give you a little bowl of rice if you'll let me indoctrinate you about god and condoms."

Makes me so mad that, inspired by the lovely Galenrox, I just want to say that the Pope is a hypocritical mother-phucking piece of sh1t who probably screws little boys in his palatial splendour while millions starve to death, and the Vatican should be turned into a gay bathhouse.

If they played their cards right... they could take the rice and hit the road; not bothering to listen to Catholic missionaries. However, perhaps they actually believe in what the Church is telling them... I know, to you anti-Catholics, this may seem absolutely impossible, but guess what... theres over a billion believers out there in the real world... thats about 1 out of every 6 people.

It makes me even madder to know that there are people out there who are so ignorant that they can't even stomach the fact that someone could actually believe in the Catholic religion... despite the fact that over a billion people are subscribers.
 

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The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector

9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else, Jesus told this parable:
10 "Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
11 The Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector.
12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.'
13"But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.'

14"I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."
 

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Naughty Nurse said:
That's all very well, except:

"Hello, little starving third world person. I'll give you a little bowl of rice if you'll let me indoctrinate you about god and condoms."

Makes me so mad that, inspired by the lovely Galenrox, I just want to say that the Pope is a hypocritical mother-phucking piece of sh1t who probably screws little boys in his palatial splendour while millions starve to death, and the Vatican should be turned into a gay bathhouse.

........:rofl
 

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shuamort said:
And the Catholic church with its voodoo beliefs about safe sex is the largest organization in the world that's helping spread the pandemic of AIDS in Africa.

Actually, the Catholic Church is right on this one. The only way to NOT get AIDS is to be in a stable relationship with who you are married to (so long as they don't have AIDS.) The Church's teachings against extramariatal sex and staying off drugs is actually the BEST way NOT to contract AIDS!
 

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ludahai said:
Actually, the Catholic Church is right on this one. The only way to NOT get AIDS is to be in a stable relationship with who you are married to (so long as they don't have AIDS.) The Church's teachings against extramariatal sex and staying off drugs is actually the BEST way NOT to contract AIDS!

So why isn't the Vatican advocating gay marriage?
 

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Naughty Nurse said:
So why isn't the Vatican advocating gay marriage?

Because the Bible refers to it as an abomination.

The Holy Spirit, which continues to guide the church, must also be having a say in the matter.

I know you have no faith, that is YOUR problem, NOT mine.
 

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Because the Bible refers to it as an abomination.

The Holy Spirit, which continues to guide the church, must also be having a say in the matter.

I know you have no faith, that is YOUR problem, NOT mine.

So you base your life on what is written in a work of fiction, and the alleged mutterings of a mythical "Holy Spirit"?

Who, exactly, has a problem?
 

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Naughty Nurse said:
So you base your life on what is written in a work of fiction, and the alleged mutterings of a mythical "Holy Spirit"?

Who, exactly, has a problem?

YOU may consider it to be a work of fiction, but I and hundreds of millions of others do not share your opinion.
 

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Matthew 24
Signs of the End of the Age

Jusus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings
2 "Do you see all these things?" he asked. "I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down."
3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"
4 Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you.
5 For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many.
6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.
7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.
8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.
9 "Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.
10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other,
11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.
12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold,
13 but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. .14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
15 "So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand—
16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
17 Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house.
18 Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak.
19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers!
20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.
21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again
22 If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
23 At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'There he is!' do not believe it.
24. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible.
25.See, I have told you ahead of time.

26 "So if anyone tells you, 'There he is, out in the desert,' do not go out; or, 'Here he is, in the inner rooms,' do not believe it.
27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.
29 "Immediately after the distress of those days 'the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light;the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'
30 "At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory..
31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
32 "Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near.
33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door.
34 I tell you the truth, this generation[e] will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.
35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

The Day and Hour Unknown

36 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father.
37.As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
38. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark;
39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left.
41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.
42 "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.
43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into.
44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.
45 "Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time?.,
46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns.
47 I tell you the truth, he will put him in charge of all his possessions
48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, 'My master is staying away a long time,'
49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards.
50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of.
51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. :cool:
 

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ludahai said:
YOU may consider it to be a work of fiction, but I and hundreds of millions of others do not share your opinion.
Yes, and the same amount of people also believed the earth was flat and they were wrong too.
 

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shuamort said:
Yes, and the same amount of people also believed the earth was flat and they were wrong too.
Were they vilified by the media and "non-believers" as ignorant and portrayed as "zealots", too?
 

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Were they vilified by the media and "non-believers" as ignorant and portrayed as "zealots", too?
I dunno, I haven't been able to find the 4th century Michaelus Moorus. :mrgreen:
 

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shuamort said:
Yes, and the same amount of people also believed the earth was flat and they were wrong too.

Yes, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it was Bruno, who the Vatican burned as a heteric because he believed this, and the funny thing is, it turned out the minority was right!
 
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