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The US is out of the Covid-19 pandemic phase, Fauci says

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(CNN)The United States is out of the Covid-19 pandemic phase, said Dr. Anthony Fauci, President Joe Biden's chief medical adviser and the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
"We are certainly, right now, in this country, out of the pandemic phase," Fauci said on PBS NewsHour Tuesday.
Fauci said that while coronavirus won't be eradicated, the level of virus in society could be kept very low if people are intermittently vaccinated, possibly every year.

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I suppose this is an imprimatur of sorts, something we've been waiting for - so long. But, somehow it feels a bit anticlimactic. I also find it hard to believe this is the final word on it. We've been down this road, before.
 

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Well, if Fauxchi said it, it's not entirely undeserving of scrutiny for credibility.

That said, it certainly feels that way where I live - and thankfully so.

My niece, who was a covid floor RN has been reassigned - for which she's soooo glad. And honestly, we're hearing practically nothing about it on the news these days either.
 

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Strange that he would say this as cases are starting to swing up in the US again. Maybe he's thinking beyond the coming wave?

I suppose this is an imprimatur of sorts, something we've been waiting for - so long. But, somehow it feels a bit anticlimactic. I also find it hard to believe this is the final word on it. We've been down this road, before.

Of course it's anticlimactic. There isn't a definitive point when a pandemic transitions to an endemic. The only definitive point would be eradication, which seems extremely unlikely now.
 

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I suppose this is an imprimatur of sorts, something we've been waiting for - so long. But, somehow it feels a bit anticlimactic. I also find it hard to believe this is the final word on it. We've been down this road, before.

Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.
 

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Strange that he would say this as cases are starting to swing up in the US again. Maybe he's thinking beyond the coming wave?

Yeah, I thought so too.

Here might be of interest, from the article:

"Namely, we don't have 900,000 new infections a day and tens and tens and tens of thousands of hospitalizations and thousands of deaths. We are at a low level right now. So, if you're saying are we out of the pandemic phase in this country? We are," he said.

Fewer people are dying of Covid-19 now than during most of the pandemic, but with more than 400 deaths a day, the past two months of Covid-19 have been more deadly than most recent flu seasons.

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This second quote seems to be equating the current Covid situation to a one of the more deadly flu seasons, but not the worse.

I suspect if Covid simply was 'the flu', we wouldn't be declaring it 'a pandemic' at these levels.

Of course it's anticlimactic. There isn't a definitive point when a pandemic transitions to an endemic. The only definitive point would be eradication, which seems extremely unlikely now.

Somehow, I'm finding it hard to believe this is 'over'. I guess I'm still worry some new variant may pop-up, as usual.
 

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I think he may be saying it more from the perspective we know have the vaccines and therapeutics to treat it so it has becone more like the seasonal flu....only more contagious
 

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[There's more interesting comment and data in the article]

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I suppose this is an imprimatur of sorts, something we've been waiting for - so long. But, somehow it feels a bit anticlimactic. I also find it hard to believe this is the final word on it. We've been down this road, before.
Well, when you look at the graphs

22-04-27 C3 - US NEW CASES per day 7-14-28 GRAPH.JPG
22-04-27 B1c - Mortality Rate BIDEN Years GRAPH.JPG
22-04-27 B2a3 - Daily Deaths BIDEN Years GRAPH.JPG

that things are looking up for most of the states is reasonably obvious.

However, viri are sneaky little things and do so love to mutate.
 

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Quite frankly, I see a sinusoidal cycling pattern, with us seemingly on the entrance point to the positive slope of a rising cycle. 'No'?
So much depends on the normal progression curves for infections and the development of variants that I'm not prepared to speculate.

The current numbers are down and look reasonably stable,

22-04-27 G2 - FADING OF THE GREEN TABLE.JPG

but I have no way of knowing how the COVID-19 virus is going to mutate so I'm unable to answer your question.
 

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Fauci, like Biden, is now bowing to popular opinion. That is disappointing.
You may not have noticed it, but almost every other country in the world where COVID-19 is following a pattern similar to the one it is currently following in the US is doing roughly the same thing with regards to mitigation efforts as the US is doing.

Are you trying to tell us that the governments of every other country in the world is "bowing to (American) public opinion"?
 

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[There's more interesting comment and data in the article]

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I suppose this is an imprimatur of sorts, something we've been waiting for - so long. But, somehow it feels a bit anticlimactic. I also find it hard to believe this is the final word on it. We've been down this road, before.

A year ago we thought it was over, and then it wasn't.
 

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Well, if Fauxchi said it, it's not entirely undeserving of scrutiny for credibility.

That said, it certainly feels that way where I live - and thankfully so.

My niece, who was a covid floor RN has been reassigned - for which she's soooo glad. And honestly, we're hearing practically nothing about it on the news these days either.

And what about the unvaccinated? They aren't creating variants anymore? Whatever Fauci says can be assumed to be propaganda.
 

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You may not have noticed it, but almost every other country in the world where COVID-19 is following a pattern similar to the one it is currently following in the US is doing roughly the same thing with regards to mitigation efforts as the US is doing.

Are you trying to tell us that the governments of every other country in the world is "bowing to (American) public opinion"?

No, they are bowing to their people's popular opinion.
 

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Millions of people are still not vaccinated. Biden said it's a pandemic of the unvaccinated. If that were correct, there would still be a pandemic.

Especially in poor countries, vaccination rates are low. And animals can catch it and spread it, and they aren't vaccinated. But liars lie.
 

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Millions of people are still not vaccinated. Biden said it's a pandemic of the unvaccinated. If that were correct, there would still be a pandemic.

Especially in poor countries, vaccination rates are low. And animals can catch it and spread it, and they aren't vaccinated. But liars lie.

Places with low vax rates make-up for it with higher Covid-caused immunity.
 

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No, they are not. They are not facing reality, and just saying something is over when it isn't.
Actually no one (who is rational) is saying "COVID is over.".

What they ARE saying is "The danger of COVID-19 causing massive deaths has diminished." (and acting accordingly).

But, of course, since acknowledging that fact sort of destroys your narrative, I guess that you will never acknowledge it.

What I find amusing is that those who are making the same claims as you are have been quite consistent (previously) in claiming that the whole "COVID Thingee" was a massive fraud and that none of the American (so-called) "data" was true. While, at the same time totally ignoring the fact that, for that claim to be true, the entirety of the governments of every other country in the world would also have had to be lying.
 

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I suppose this is an imprimatur of sorts, something we've been waiting for - so long. But, somehow it feels a bit anticlimactic. I also find it hard to believe this is the final word on it. We've been down this road, before.
The democrat party milked the pandemic politically as far as they could go and has finally come to the conclusion that as Covid19 is now in the endemic stage, there is nothing more to be gained, and they are being harmed by the continued push for vaccine and mask mandates. It's quite likely that they are now pushing Fauci to tone it down, especially after his latest rant about the court's having the final word instead of the CDC.
 

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The democrat party milked the pandemic politically as far as they could go and has finally come to the conclusion that as Covid19 is now in the endemic stage, there is nothing more to be gained, and they are being harmed by the continued push for vaccine and mask mandates. It's quite likely that they are now pushing Fauci to tone it down, especially after his latest rant about the court's having the final word instead of the CDC.

What do the numbers show?
 

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The democrat party milked the pandemic politically as far as they could go and has finally come to the conclusion that as Covid19 is now in the endemic stage, there is nothing more to be gained, and they are being harmed by the continued push for vaccine and mask mandates. It's quite likely that they are now pushing Fauci to tone it down, especially after his latest rant about the court's having the final word instead of the CDC.

Projection. The Right politicized anti-COVID safety measures.

That we are in the endemic phase. It's no longer apandemic.

Prove it.
 

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Projection. The Right politicized anti-COVID safety measures.



Prove it.
This article (“Epidemic” vs. “Pandemic” vs. “Endemic”: What Do These Terms Mean?), which says

Is COVID-19 endemic?


The short answer is “not yet.” Currently, COVID-19 is not endemic and is still classified as a worldwide pandemic. The COVID-19 virus is still mutating into variant strains and widespread immunity to COVID-19 will likely take a long time to achieve.


However, most experts predict that COVID-19 will become an endemic disease after its pandemic phase, once enough people have developed immunity to COVID-19 (through vaccination or infection). In other words, COVID-19 is expected to become a recurring disease like the flu. When this will happen is hard to predict—and it will most likely vary from place to place. For more info on need-to-know coronavirus words, see our explainer on the flu vs. COVID-19.
might prove useful.

As of the end of January 2022, COVID-19 still classified as "pandemic".

Admittedly the world renowned epidemiologist "Letsgobrandon" has his own scientifically based and evidence backed opinion as to whether or not COVID-19 has subsided (which is pretty difficult to reconcile with his scientifically based and evidence backed fact that COVID-19 never really existed and that all of the governments in every other country in the world are lying about it in support of the wacko, loony, crazy, left-wing, liberal, socialist, pinko, commies who are a part of the huge, vast, enormous, secret, hidden, covert, conspiratorial plot to steal the 2020 election and deny his legal victory to DONALD JOHN TRUMP whom God guided Americans into choosing as THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA so that THE UNITED! STATES OF AMERICA! could fulfill its God Mandated role as the Saviour of Mankind and who want to impose Sherry Law (with its mandatory same-sex, inter-racial, marriages and forced abortions of all white, male, pre-born, children AND compulsory autism causing vaccinations) on America so that all the Cheerleaders would have to wear Burke Hats and football would be banned because it uses pig skin) to the point where it no longer qualifies as a "pandemic" IF IT EVER DID - however the WHO still classifies it as a pandemic disease.
 
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