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The United States again voted in the UN against the law banning the glorification of Nazism.

You do you, bud. You asked for a link, I provided it. That's the extent of the transaction, as far as I'm concerned... 🤷‍♂️

I should have asked for a credible link...lol
 
I should have asked for a credible link...lol

lol...you didn't even read it. And we all know that nothing is "credible" unless you agree with it. Back to: wasted on you.
 
lol...you didn't even read it. And we all know that nothing is "credible" unless you agree with it. Back to: wasted on you.

I read it.
 
Ultimately, what difference does it make who did what to who historically when it's irrelevant to the actual question of whether free speech should be protected at any cost?? That's the question, not whether capitalists are meaner than socialists or who took advantage of who or what the Crusading knights did or Stalin did or Hitler did or the Hutus did or the Romans did or whether Genghis Khan was a lousy guy or whether Castro was a dictator or Cuba's salvation. We could leap frog from leadership to leadership, political trend to political trend and find fault, and in some leaderships, horrific deeds from our modern perspective including a long list of emperors with centuries of eastern and western monarchs, totalitarian regimes and dictators. However, it's UNDER THE BRIDGE. And those that remain advocating violence and revenge are under scrutiny with an immense social disadvantage, both left and right on the western spectrum. At this juncture, we are going to have to face the fact that freedom comes with a price, and that price is that people can say offensive things with impunity and granted, it's irritating TO ALL OF US. Sometimes comments and speeches seem immoral, as I've considered a few on this forum given their posts. But we need to tolerate all expressions, because with the worst, also comes the best. And unfettered expression has ushered us into this century with immense scientific advancement, a sense of world responsibility and an extraordinary reach toward understanding, not only about ourselves but each other and the universe. Freedom of expression and its concomitant knowledge came and continues to come with a cost - a huge cost - but it's no time to threaten it, regardless of the offensiveness that it also tolerates. Thanks!!
 
In General, the Representative of the State Department at the UN explained that only because of the terrible Russian propaganda, which no one in the West sees, the United States has to strongly approve and support the glorification of Nazism...
I understand that every state needs allies and even lackeys. But I don't understand why you need a fascist lackey.? Will you hire a proven bloodstained maniac with syphilis to take care of your children? So why does the United States vote year after year with Ukraine, the most corrupt and fascist country, against banning the glorification of Nazism? Some might think something suspicious...

It's called free speech. It's not complicated.
 
I read it.

Then you would have seen that it did not excuse communism, nor did it utterly condemn capitalism. One shouldn't be afraid of a little scrutiny for the things they claim... If it's good enough, it can handle the challenge.
 
Then you would have seen that it did not excuse communism, nor did it utterly condemn capitalism. One shouldn't be afraid of a little scrutiny for the things they claim... If it's good enough, it can handle the challenge.

It was written by a raging Leftist. Of course it was excusing communism...lol
 
It was written by a raging Leftist. Of course it was excusing communism...lol

Huh....yet, again, first two words of the title: Condemn Communism.

You sure you read it?
 
The only difference between socialism and fascism is that fascism is a marriage between the super rich of the private sector, military and government, while socialism is is a marriage between the super rich of the government sector, the military and civilian government.

If the plutocrats via Biden and the Democratic Party have successfully eliminated the United States as they claim has happened in this non-election election, the USA now is a corporate-fascist plutocracy, which will use socialist programs for their profit and power - getting government to pay most of their business expenses.
Gee, I now feel guilty having Medicare and using the Post Office.
 
Not sure I understand the free speech issue. How Is suggesting that Nazism not be glorified and, say, democracy be promoted a violation of free speech, absent legislation prohibiting it?
 
Huh....yet, again, first two words of the title: Condemn Communism.

You sure you read it?

The rest of the title goes: but capitalism has it's own terrible history. :ROFLMAO:
 
Not sure I understand the free speech issue. How Is suggesting that Nazism not be glorified and, say, democracy be promoted a violation of free speech, absent legislation prohibiting it?

Because the government doesn't censor mean opinions. Nor does it dish out punitive actions because someone says things we don't like.
 
Because the government doesn't censor mean opinions. Nor does it dish out punitive actions because someone says things we don't like.
As I read it, the issue was not promoting or discouraging Nazi ideas, not legislation penalizing those actions.
 
US TV isn't censored. Barring a few wordy dirds isn't "censorship".

Yes it is..... beeping happens all the time, US live TV events are delayed by 5 to 10 seconds to catch another "Janet Jackson", which also was censored/punished. Network TV has different rules than cable TV on nudity and so on and so on. That is censorship and in most cases, government censorship rules. Hell most TV channels have a censor department.
 
Wow, you had to go back 170 years.
When and on which country were more bombs dropped than all the countries of the world did during the Second World War? It happened about 50 years ago, in Vietnam.
I can name even more recent cases of the destruction of the countries of Libya, Iraq, and Syria by capitalism. The nature of capitalism does not change.
 
By the way, about "freedom of speech" . Nazism is O.K.
Norway outlaws hate speech against trans and bisexual people

Norway bans free speech. Calling speech hateful and therefore banning it is attempting to ban thought. And we as Americans stand against that at least most of us do. If you don't like something someone says you shouldn't have the right to silence them. How about counteracting it?

Wait you can't because those people that are recruited into these things are stupid people that you don't like.

Just FYI banning hate speech doesn't ban hate. If anything it causes it to proliferate, because now with your dictatorial authoritarianism you're giving people something to hate.
 
Just FYI banning hate speech doesn't ban hate. If anything it causes it to proliferate, because now with your dictatorial authoritarianism you're giving people something to hate.

Conservatives always insist they need to be racist due to other people forcing them into it.

“Oh, I’m not allowed to invite a guy that says Jews control the sun to lecture on campus? Well I guess I’ll just have to hate Jews now”
 
The United States used nuclear weapons against the people of Japan, chemical weapons against the people of Vietnam, depleted uranium bombs and cluster bombs against the people of Iraq, the "mother of all bombs" against the people of Afghanistan. How else can we bring democracy and freedom?
"Iraq is considering filing lawsuits in European courts against the United States with accusations of using depleted uranium during aggression. Cancer rates among Iraqis soared from 40 per 100 thousand people in 1991 to 1,600 per 100 thousand in 2005"
 
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Yes it is..... beeping happens all the time, US live TV events are delayed by 5 to 10 seconds to catch another "Janet Jackson", which also was censored/punished. Network TV has different rules than cable TV on nudity and so on and so on. That is censorship and in most cases, government censorship rules. Hell most TV channels have a censor department.

You just debunked your own claim.
 
The rest of the title goes: but capitalism has it's own terrible history. :ROFLMAO:

Yeah it does....and yes it does. Not sure what has you busting laughing emojis, it's not controversial. Is it that you can't comprehend the notion of being honest about two things at once, or are you so afraid of scrutiny that you just go to pieces when the reality of your chosen ideology is discussed? Like, did you think capitalism was perfect? lol...

Legitimately asking... you seem extremely threatened, but I don't understand why. Have you maybe reached the point that you can't consume any information, unless it is heavily biased and favorable to your way of thinking? Have you lost the ability to process hard truths, even if it is simply in the pursuit of improving the status quo, not dismantling it? What has you so scared? I wouldn't have thought this was in the least bit controversial - capitalism does have it's own terrible history... I mean, that was even in my school history texts, at a time when they still had stuff in them about residential schools being a good thing...lol...

So, what is it that has you clowning in the face of something so ... beige?
 
Because the government doesn't censor mean opinions. Nor does it dish out punitive actions because someone says things we don't like.
Really? Here's photo of US nazis before the war.
They could use their "freedom of speech". But why did this freedom of speech disappear, when the US war with Germany began? Nothing has changed regarding the application of "freedom of speech"... But Nazi organizations were shut down and some went to prison for their "right to use free speech." Capitalism is impossible without hypocrisy and lies.
 
The UN General Assembly on the initiative of Russia adopted a resolution on the fight against the glorification of Nazism, according to the organization's website. The document was supported by 133 countries, 52 abstained, and the United States and Ukraine opposed it.

The resolution expresses alarm at the proliferation of various extremist political parties, movements, ideologies, as well as racist and xenophobic groups that promote the Nazi movement, neo-Nazism and the activities of former members of the Waffen SS, including through the construction of monuments and memorials.

"The General Assembly recommends that States, civil society and other relevant stakeholders use all opportunities, including those provided by the Internet and social networks, to counter the spread of ideas of racial superiority or hatred, in accordance with international law, and to promote the ideals of equality, non — discrimination, diversity and democracy," the resolution reads.

The General Assembly also expressed concern about the increasing desecration and destruction of monuments to World war II heroes. The UN has spoken of the inadmissibility and the need to prevent such incidents.

The United States, in turn, opposed the resolution because it saw it as a "thinly veiled attempt to legitimize Russian disinformation" that neighboring countries glorify Nazism. Us representative Jason Mack said that the American side stands for freedom of expression.
Adviser to the Ukrainian permanent mission to the UN Igor Yaremenko, commenting on the rejection of the document proposed by Russia, said that it "has nothing to do with the fight against Nazism, neo-Nazism and other forms of intolerance" and is designed to hide the "propaganda motives" of Russia.


In General, the Representative of the State Department at the UN explained that only because of the terrible Russian propaganda, which no one in the West sees, the United States has to strongly approve and support the glorification of Nazism...
I understand that every state needs allies and even lackeys. But I don't understand why you need a fascist lackey.? Will you hire a proven bloodstained maniac with syphilis to take care of your children? So why does the United States vote year after year with Ukraine, the most corrupt and fascist country, against banning the glorification of Nazism? Some might think something suspicious...

I wonder if glorification of communism would be subjected to the same denunciation.
 
I wonder if glorification of communism would be subjected to the same denunciation.
Yeah, good old trick of half-finished nazis and the rest of the anticomunist scum - "Stalin was worse then Hitler!"
 
Yeah, good old trick of half-finished nazis and the rest of the anticomunist scum - "Stalin was worse then Hitler!"

"Anti-communist scum", haha. Yeah, we are somewhat moved by the endless mountains of corpses left in communism's wake.

I don't know about worse than, but Stalin certainly belongs in whatever league Hitler resides, and whatever pathetic apologists of communism remain deserve no less scorn and ridicule as Nazi sympathizers.
 
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