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The Uncanny Christianity of the Nazis

Be specific! Name them!

Ok, but I did ask you first.


"Military sociopathy",that is fresh considering where you come from.
You clearly are not understanding the argument.Let me explain it simply for you!
The jews controlled the supply of money within Europe.Germany,Europe`s biggest and most powerful state made itself independant of this economic tyranny.The jews power base was beginning to wane so from 1933 onwards they started to stir up strife and war against Germany. Do you understand it now?

And why is that? From whence do I come that makes it fresh? Economic tyrranny? It merely replaced one form (even if it existed) with another. There's nothing tyrannical about jews being bankers and controlling money. It just means they found a niche; that's capitalism.

I don't understand how jews made "war" against germany. I don't buy it. National Socialists were glorified thieves in uniforms. THey stole the businesses and rightful property of those who earned it and gave it to oppressive people who didn't.

Show examples of what Stife and war they kicked up? The only wars kicked up begain with the NSDAP. If you want to talk about tyranny, talk about going into other nations and confiscating it and haulfing off everyone's personal possesions to fund your war effort.

Hmm if the economy depended so much upon the patronage of the jews it demonstrates how much in economic bondage we were in to them.

Many Jews were first Germans, and jews second. The fact that the jewish people were bankers and owned many retail stores isn't bad. The only fault for failure is Germany's. If they were good enough, they should have been able to compete. Nazi economic plan was simply moronic from an economic standpoint; this is why Scacht resigned what that fat buffoon Goerring took over and nearly bankrupted the nation.


I am talking about folkish socialism,not the type that attacks a healthy organism as jewish bolshevism does.


Could you link to or explain this phenomenon called "folkish socialism." It sounds a lot like the made-up brands of socialism devised by China and the North Koreans. Everyone claims to have his own 'blend' of ethnic socialism, yet it's all the same.


What exactly is "jewish" about marxism, christianity, and bolshevism? I hope you aren't going to say "because jews follow and created them."

They created and sustained them and like any Weltanschauung they are inprinted with the mindset of their creators which is at total variance to the Aryan.We do not need the jews,their money or their fiendish political/religious systems.[/QUOTE]

Do you even know what an Aryan is? Ayrans weren't even white. Germans are not "Aryans." That's made up propaganda. Further fiendish? Youc all jews fiendish, but wanton murder, invastion, and causation of suffering isn't? Do you actually believe what you are saying? SOmetimes I wish you people actually lived through what you are advocating.
 
Technocratic_Utilitarian said:
Do you even know what an Aryan is? Ayrans weren't even white. Germans are not "Aryans." That's made up propaganda. Further fiendish? Youc all jews fiendish, but wanton murder, invastion, and causation of suffering isn't? Do you actually believe what you are saying? SOmetimes I wish you people actually lived through what you are advocating.

The term Aryan refers to a group of people that originally migrated from northern India and then moved to Northern Europe. Aryan refers to the nordic peoples which reside in the Scandinavian Countries. However, there really is no one pure "Aryan race," most people in Europe are bred from a highly mixed stock.

And you never answered my question. If Germany wanted to eliminate socialism then what did they want to replace it with? Please be as specific as possible.
 
George_Washington said:
Actually, no. I heard on TV that the FDA said that male homosexuals are more likely to be at risk than heterosexuals.


But that's not what he said. He was talking about those who SPREAD diseaases, and even on a 'per capita' basis it is heterosexual men. You forget that the gay community has an incredibly high rate of sexually educated people because of the AIDS transmissions in the early and mid 80's. But through our massive sex ed we actually brought the HIV transmission rates to a ZERO rate in SF for quite a long time. Straight men, and ESPECIALLY hetero Christian men have the worst record at spreading sexually transmitted diseases, A) because they are ashamed about sex so they never bother to read anything about it, and B) because they have sex so RARELY, when they finally DO, they are too fast and want to get it over with as quickly as possible as not to 'offend' God.

So the REAL reason behind STD transmissions is sexual repression.




See, it's talk like this that leads me to believe that you're just claiming the Nazis were Christians because you hate them. I think you have a lot of growing up to do as far as learning tolerance for other groups. You don't understand Christianity and you won't allow yourself to because you're blinded by your hatred.

The nazi's were undeniably Christian. I"ve never heard anything different in print other than the x-ian REVISIONISTS.






So I or someone else could break your legs and it wouldn't be a sin? Hmmm...I wonder if you'd still say the same thing if you were lying in a hospital bed, paralyzed for life.

"Sin" is superstition, nothing more. God could care less whether people sin or not. God is 100% indifferent towards 'sin'. However, doing the wrong thing will effects one's spirtual balance which brings one FURTHER from God. NO ONE will ever be spiritually perfect and no one ever has.
 
Lucidthots said:
Well he is on to something with the idea of the "false self."

However, what am I saying is that your true "identitiy" is pure, all-knowing, immortal--GOD.


I agree. And I think Rev. Kora (a transexual female by the way) would agree too, it's basic Chaosophy.

All other "identities" are artificial.

Vedic:

"The all knowing 'Self' was never born, nor will it die."
"Beyond cause and effect, this Self is eternal and immutable."
"When the body dies, this 'Self' does not die."

"The 'Self' cannot be known by anyone who desists not from unrighteous ways,
Controls not his senses, stills not his mind."
"None else can know the omnipresent Self, whose glory sweeps away the rituals of the priest and the prowess of the warrior and puts death itself-- to death."

Christ too believed this, and this is why he was charged with heresy and blasphemy--for equating himself with-- GOD.

John 10: 33

The Jews answered him, saying,

"For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because thou being a man, makest thyself--GOD.


I think it's because Jesus was a Gnostic. Those beliefs are much like the Gnostics. I consider myself a Gnostic as well. It fits so rationally into just about all Spiritual archetypes. I think what gets so many in trouble is that they become SUPERSTIOUS and turn their backs on Spirituality, which in turn causes perpetual irresponsibility. Hence we end up with destructive religions based on DOGMA and ideology instead of Spirituality and 'God'.
 
The term Aryan refers to a group of people that originally migrated from northern India and then moved to Northern Europe. Aryan refers to the nordic peoples which reside in the Scandinavian Countries. However, there really is no one pure "Aryan race," most people in Europe are bred from a highly mixed stock

What is this mixed stock thing? I don't understand why Germans think they are aryan at all. Ayrans, as you say, are not a germanic culture. They are an ancient indian culture. They weren't even white, according to my anthropology texts.

I also don't know why they used the term Aryan like it denotes superiority; that's absurd. Aryans weren't "perfect," themselves. I would love to see a blonde haired, blue eyed dark skinned Aryan indian.




Oh, and by the way, Washington. I looked up in my text the quote I wanted to show you about German citizens supporting mass terror and extermination. On page 110 "Inside Hitler's Germany:" "What was the view of ordinary Germans on the use of terror against specific groups? It is a sad fact that there existed much popular approval when it cam eto the use of terror to deal with non-standard behavior or non-standard (subhuman) categories of person. [...] The excuse of ignorance is not credible, as Nazi terror was highly visible, documented in the presse, and given legitimacy in teh speeches of th Reich Leaders. [...]Even some of those who criticized the regime for the detention and torture of poltiical opponents approved of long prison sentences given to groups such as [...] Gypsies and homosexuals."


And you never answered my question. If Germany wanted to eliminate socialism then what did they want to replace it with? Please be as specific as possible.


Yes, I did answer it. It was a operating contradiction. Apparently, the Nazi on this forum classifies it as "folk socialism," but I am trying to figure out what the hell that is. It sounds like a propaganda term. I was always under the impression, from historical texts, that the Nazis were neither capitalists nor socialists. They were an authoritarian brand of "use whatever you feel like at the moment" in order to get supporters. In the beginning, the Nazi movement was filled with a great many socialists. The term, National Socialism, was coined in order to gain support from left-wing branches in Germany. This is very similiar to the Fascist party of Itality during the 20's and the 30's. Originally, Fascism started off as an offshoot of socalist ideology, but then broke with it, much like National Socialism.

The Nazi Economist of the early to mid thirties (schacht) was a capitalist who advocated a relatively free market combined with some regulation. Many of his projected ideas were not unlike what goes on now. Nazi germany was involved in the economy, but that doesn't make the nation socialist. It was, as I said, an authoritarian mixed economy. It had socialist elements, but it also had capitalist elements. Much of the businesses were privately owned--but not all. There was regulation--but the property was largely in the hands of private investors and owners. That is very unsocialist. Now, if one takes into consideration the historical context, we know that the Nazis largely purged much of the Socialist groups and backing of their party by the late thirties.

Now, in socialist nations, it is supposed to be a "will of the people" and "workers revolution." Hitler directly crushed this attempt at worker-freedom and did many very, again, unsocialist things. For example, in the German industrial worker leagu, "Workers lost their right to strike and the ability to organize into unions. Now, at the same time, the Nazis replaced these with contradictory policies in the DAF. The essential gist of the movement is such: Worker freedom is replaced by totalitarian control over the worker, yet the worker is kept entertained and happy via Kraft Durch Freude. Meanwhile, while some professed this was good for the worker, it also greatly benefited the private industries.

Now, the agriculture market was, perhaps, the most heavily socalistic element of the Third Reich, because it was completely dominated by the government. Prices were set, wages were fixed, and much of the land and property was State owned and operated.

At the same time, however, "Inside Hitler's Germany" claims that "German [private] business in general was happy to go along with thes new regime. The Nazis smashed organized labour, left-wing revolution, and resotred order. In return, German big business was expected to help finance the Nazis."

Hitler also commented in a meeting with jubilant business leaders that, "Private enterprise cannot be maintained in the age of democraacy; it is conceivable only if the people have an idea of sound authority and personality." Further, Hitler promised "to eliminate Marxism, [...] [which] appealed to the industrialists [...] such as Krupp, United Steel, and I.G.Farben

There existed both a private and a public sector in Germany, and many policies were logically contradictory. The only thing consistant in Germany was the use of authoritarianism, however.
 
NO NO NO!

THE ARYANS INVADED INDIA FROM THE NORTHWEST!

THE ARYANS WERE NOT NATIVES OF INDIA!

THE ARYANS CAME ACROSS RUSSIA ON HORSEBACK AND SWEPT ACROSS ASIA, EVENTUALLY INVADING INDIA AND ESTABLISHING AN EMPIRE THERE!

IRAN = ARYAN!

THE ARYANS SETTLED ALL ACROSS THE CASPIAN REGION, ARAL SEA REGION, AFGHANISTAN AND DOWN INTO INDIA.

IN THE WEST THEY WENT INTO EUROPE AND GREECE!

AT VOLGOGRAD THERE IS A STATUE OF MOTHER RUSSIA AT THE SITE OF THE ANCIENT ARYAN ORIGIN JUST NORTH OF THE CAUCUSUS!

HERE IS THE MAP OF THE ANCIENT ARYAN ORIGINS:


caucasus.jpg


HERE IS THE STATUE IN VOLGOGRAD:
normal_motherrussiamonument.jpg
 
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Technocratic_UtilitariaN said:
IRAN = PERSIAN!

Iran = Aryan

Iran means Aryan.

See this picture?

The man on the left is Iranian.

The man on the right is British.

Notice the skin tone?

The ruling Classes in Iran, Afghanistan and India have for the most part throughout history been the Aryans.

image1.jpg
 
You know that Iranians are Persian, right? My anthropology text states that "aryans" were dark skinned, not light. Your definition is no longer in technical use.

In fact, Aryan also means: A member of any people speaking an Indo-European language. That's absurd, and as such, it's no longer used. There are some eskimos who are said to speak an indo-european language. I guess they are "aryans" too, right?

If you look in the dictionary, you will find this statement about Aryans: It is one of the ironies of history that Aryan, a word nowadays referring to the blond-haired, blue-eyed physical ideal of Nazi Germany, originally referred to a people who looked vastly different.

Further: it hasd been proposed that the original homeland of the Indo-Europeans had been in northern Europe. From this theory, it was but a small leap to think of the Aryans as having had a northern European physiotype. While these theories were playing themselves out, certain anti-Semitic scholars in Germany took to viewing the Jews in Germany as the main non-Aryan people because of their Semitic roots. (This theory has since been called into question.)



Germans are not Aryans.

The Iranian you see is an unusually light-toned man. Many are not. Skin colour is difficult to measure, since it is controled by many genes creating a gradation effect. I think the term for it is polygenic inheretence. There are many blacks who look white, naturally, or at least very light.
 
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Technocratic_Utilitarian said:
You know that Iranians are Persian, right? My anthropology text states that "aryans" were dark skinned, not light.

Your anthropolgy text was written by people who do not know what they are talking about.

Aryans came from the Northern Black Sea region, the grassy Plains of Russia (Horses) and invaded India.

Random House American Colege Dict.

Persians: def 2; a member of the native race of Iran; now a mixed race descended in part from the ancient Iranians.


(By "Ancient Iranians" they mean Aryans)
 
Your anthropolgy text was written by people who do not know what they are talking about.

Aryans came from the Northern Black Sea region, the grassy Plains of Russia (Horses) and invaded India.

Random House American Colege Dict.

Persians: def 2; a member of the native race of Iran; now a mixed race descended in part from the ancient Iranians.


(By "Ancient Iranians" they mean Aryans)

No **** sherlock. I know what the person word for Aryan means: however, Ayrans are not Germans. Your source is shitty: mine is scholarly. The russian steppe theory is also under heavy contention. Stop being f.ucking retarded. Aryans are not blonde or blue eyed or light skinned. That goes against the majority of anthropological and historical research.



1. it had been proposed that the original homeland of the Indo-Europeans had been in northern Europe. From this theory, it was but a small leap to think of the Aryans as having had a northern European physiotype. While these theories were playing themselves out, certain anti-Semitic scholars in Germany took to viewing the Jews in Germany as the main non-Aryan people because of their Semitic roots. (This theory has since been called into question.)



2. The Aryan homeland question

The geographical origins of the ancient "Aryans" are still the object of much dispute. Avestan was the language of ancient Persia (roughly coincident with modern Iran and Afghanistan). Sanskrit is originally associated with the Vedic Civilization of Modern Day Northern India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh, among other areas. The indigenous (and modern) name for Persia, "Iran", is a variant of "Aryan" (in fact it is Ayr + -an, "land of Aryans", where -an is a suffix of location in Persian). Furthermore, the leaders of Persia called themselves Aryans. Darius the Great, King of Persia (521 - 486 BC), in an inscription in Naqsh-e-Rostam (near Shiraz, Iran) proclaims: "I am Darius, the Great King, ..., A Persian, son of a Persian, an Aryan, having Aryan lineage...". The Avesta also records a homeland, called Airyanem Vaejah (The Aryan Expanse), from which the Aryans are supposed to have migrated.

These and other clues suggested that an Aryan people whose descendants were the Achaemenians (such as the kings Cyrus II and Darius the Great) existed and proclaimed it. However, many of these usages are also intelligible if we understand the word Aryan in its sense of "noble".

This evidence gave rise to the search for the original Aryan homeland, and thus, it was believed, to the origins of the European "race". Many scholars argued that the Aryans originated in the Inner Asian Steppes, from which they migrated both west into Europe and south into Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan and parts of Northern India around 1800 BC. The spread of the Aryans was supposed to explain how it came to pass that Indo-European languages became so widespread throughout Europe and Asia. It was thought, moreover, that the Aryans came as conquerors, displacing earlier peoples, in most of the places where the languages were spoken. They were able to conquer so much territory because of their nomadic lifestyle, their use of the horse and wheeled vehicles such as chariots gave them a decisive military advantage. This model of conquest and cultural replacement was once widely accepted, but now has generally been rejected, at least as it pertains to Europe as a whole. Conquest, if it occurred, was a local phenomenon; there is no evidence of general warfare or cultural replacements. It is also difficult to tell what language people spoke from pre-literate artifacts; where conquest has occurred, it may have been one group of Indo-Europeans by another.


3. Contemporary anthropologists who believe in the existence of an ancient Aryan race generally have the opinion that its closest descendants today are the Persians, not the Germans;[...]certainly not the Nordic Germans and English.


Also visit: http://www.une.edu.au/library/faqs/hist142_aryan_invasion.htm
 
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Technocratic_Utilitarian said:
Germans are not Aryans.

The Iranian you see is an unusually light-toned man. Many are not.

The word "Aryan" is not actually a racial term.

It is a religious term.

The word comes from the Magi (Aryan Priests).

Aryan means "pure".

This religious term became associated with this "Eurasian Race" which came into the Caspian and India.

So "Aryan" came to have a dual meaning.

A religious meaning and the name of the Eurasian Race.

When Germans refer to someone as "Aryan" German...it is used as an adjective.

They are really saying "pure" German; meaning without any mixed racial blood.

Jewish Germans were not Aryans.

The "truest" definition of "Aryan" is its religious term meaning "pure" referring to ones heart/soul, not thier race.
 
http://www.indopedia.org/Aryan_race.html


The word "Aryan" is not actually a racial term.

It is a religious term.

The word comes from the Magi (Aryan Priests).

Aryan means "pure".

This religious term became associated with this "Eurasian Race" which came into the Caspian and India.

So "Aryan" came to have a dual meaning.

A religious meaning and the name of the Eurasian Race.

When Germans refer to someone as "Aryan" German...it is used as an adjective.

They are really saying "pure" German; meaning without any mixed racial blood.

Jewish Germans were not Aryans.

The "truest" definition of "Aryan" is its religious term meaning "pure" referring to ones heart/soul, not thier race.

Aryan refers to indo-europeans, but you're right about the religious aspect. The indians themselves never mentioned it otherwise. The racialist Aryan obsession is an invention of the 19th century. Aryan's as applied to Germans is a bogus use of the terminology, since Aryans looked nothing like Germans and are not the closest ancestors. There are also no 'pure germans.' That's also a farce.

Further, the concept of race is biologically unsound to begin with. There are no such things according to the vast majority of evidence show in modern anthro and bio.

It was thought, moreover, that the Aryans came as conquerors, displacing earlier peoples, in most of the places where the languages were spoken. They were able to conquer so much territory because their nomadic lifestyle, their use of the horse and wheeled vehicles such as chariots gave them a decisive military advantage. This model of conquest and cultural replacement was once widely accepted, but now has generally been rejected, at least as it pertains to Europe as a whole.
 
Technocratic_Utilitarian said:
http://www.indopedia.org/Aryan_race.html




It was thought, moreover, that the Aryans came as conquerors, displacing earlier peoples, in most of the places where the languages were spoken. They were able to conquer so much territory because their nomadic lifestyle, their use of the horse and wheeled vehicles such as chariots gave them a decisive military advantage. This model of conquest and cultural replacement was once widely accepted,

but now has generally been rejected, at least as it pertains to Europe as a whole.


It has been rejected becuse of racism against Germanic people.

The old version of history is the true one.

Much of what is portrayed as "fact" in modern anthropology is often deeply rooted in Political propaganda; as it always has been I suppose.

The history of the ancient Aryans was thrown out not because it was untrue...but because of Political reasons.
 
Lucidthots said:
It has been rejected becuse of racism against Germanic people.

The old version of history is the true one.

Much of what is portrayed as "fact" in modern anthropology is often deeply rooted in Political propaganda; as it always has been I suppose.

The history of the ancient Aryans was thrown out not because it was untrue...but because of Political reasons.


Yea, suuuuuuuuuuure. Here: Have some more Kool-Aid! :ws

You're officially insane. YOu have no argument other than attacking modern academics. That's it in a nutschell. Y our theories are out of date and rejected, so you simply reject academics.
 
Technocratic_Utilitarian said:
YOu have no argument other than attacking modern academics. That's it in a nutschell. Y our theories are out of date and rejected, so you simply reject academics.

The Politics of History go a little something like this:

~He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past controls the future.~


History, Anthropolgy, Sociology in the Public forum generally have more to do with Politics than truth.

The Germans however were on a quest to discover the true origins of their people.

And the truth, whatever it came to be, would in this case always benefit the Party as it was to be a Reich rooted in the truth of heritage as a people.

These were the positive aspects of the National Movement; distinct from the Totalitarianism and horrors brought on by the War.
 
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Technocratic_Utilitarian said:
You have no argument other than attacking modern academics. That's it in a nutschell. Y our theories are out of date and rejected, so you simply reject academics.

A wise man from the Soviet Union once said,

"In Communism the future is certain, it is the past which is always changing."
 
Has anyone pointed out the fact that the nazis ideology was heavily influenced by the occult, Hitler hated Jesus because he was a Jew, and that the nazis were in fact pagans? Though the majority of regular soldiers were mostly Christian, most SS men and true party loyalists were infact pagans.
 
Has anyone pointed out the fact that the nazis ideology was heavily influenced by the occult, Hitler hated Jesus because he was a Jew, and that the nazis were in fact pagans? Though the majority of regular soldiers were mostly Christian, most SS men and true party loyalists were infact pagans. I've heard stories on the history channel from former German regulars that the SS would go in to cities, towns, and villages in advance of the regular army and destroy Christian works and deface representations of Christ.
 
Ok, but I did ask you first.

You have not answered my question.




And why is that? From whence do I come that makes it fresh? Economic tyrranny? It merely replaced one form (even if it existed) with another. There's nothing tyrannical about jews being bankers and controlling money. It just means they found a niche; that's capitalism.


You have the impudence to criticise the Third Reich and yet your country has been the stooge and bully boy of the jews since the first world war. As Yockey so aptly put it "In this period of histoy,America and Jewry form a Symbiosis. The head of the organism is the Jewish entity, the body is America."["The Enemy of Europe"]

I don't understand how jews made "war" against germany. I don't buy it. National Socialists were glorified thieves in uniforms. THey stole the businesses and rightful property of those who earned it and gave it to oppressive people who didn't.

I am going to initiate a thread on this very subject within the next 24 hours and expose the jewish war machine and how they caused the outbreak of WWII

Show examples of what Stife and war they kicked up? The only wars kicked up begain with the NSDAP. If you want to talk about tyranny, talk about going into other nations and confiscating it and haulfing off everyone's personal possesions to fund your war effort.

See above-wait for the thread. A mere post on this important subject will not do it justice.


Many Jews were first Germans, and jews second. The fact that the jewish people were bankers and owned many retail stores isn't bad. The only fault for failure is Germany's. If they were good enough, they should have been able to compete. Nazi economic plan was simply moronic from an economic standpoint; this is why Scacht resigned what that fat buffoon Goerring took over and nearly bankrupted the nation.

A jew can never be a German,it is a biological and cultural impossibility.The jew is an alien culture that has transplanted himself within the western Imperium.He has no lasting place here and his purpose is mere self aggrandisement.


I am talking about folkish socialism,not the type that attacks a healthy organism as jewish bolshevism does.


Could you link to or explain this phenomenon called "folkish socialism." It sounds a lot like the made-up brands of socialism devised by China and the North Koreans. Everyone claims to have his own 'blend' of ethnic socialism, yet it's all the same.

It is another term for NATIONAL SOCIALISM,again deserving of a thread in its own right.I intend to expose the members of this forum to modern day and post 1945 National Socialist thinking,divorced from the Third Reich.Your understanding of this ideology is conditioned by third rate jewish funded Hollywood films.



They created and sustained them and like any Weltanschauung they are inprinted with the mindset of their creators which is at total variance to the Aryan.We do not need the jews,their money or their fiendish political/religious systems.[/QUOTE]

Do you even know what an Aryan is? Ayrans weren't even white. Germans are not "Aryans." That's made up propaganda. Further fiendish? Youc all jews fiendish, but wanton murder, invastion, and causation of suffering isn't? Do you actually believe what you are saying? SOmetimes I wish you people actually lived through what you are advocating.[/QUOTE]

The Aryan race is a biological unit which has its origins deep within pre history. Not only was the term Aryan used within an Indo-Iranian context but the etymology of the word suggests cognates within other Indo-European languages and cultures.The Germans were Aryan but so are many other ethnic groups.That word scares you doesn`t it? Again this subject is deserving of a special thread which I intend to initiate.
 
Lucidthots said:
NO NO NO!

THE ARYANS INVADED INDIA FROM THE NORTHWEST!

THE ARYANS WERE NOT NATIVES OF INDIA!

THE ARYANS CAME ACROSS RUSSIA ON HORSEBACK AND SWEPT ACROSS ASIA, EVENTUALLY INVADING INDIA AND ESTABLISHING AN EMPIRE THERE!

IRAN = ARYAN!

THE ARYANS SETTLED ALL ACROSS THE CASPIAN REGION, ARAL SEA REGION, AFGHANISTAN AND DOWN INTO INDIA.

IN THE WEST THEY WENT INTO EUROPE AND GREECE!

AT VOLGOGRAD THERE IS A STATUE OF MOTHER RUSSIA AT THE SITE OF THE ANCIENT ARYAN ORIGIN JUST NORTH OF THE CAUCUSUS!

HERE IS THE MAP OF THE ANCIENT ARYAN ORIGINS:


caucasus.jpg


HERE IS THE STATUE IN VOLGOGRAD:
normal_motherrussiamonument.jpg


Absolutely!
Interested in the statue, please tell us something about this.
 
Lucidthots said:
Iran = Aryan

Iran means Aryan.

See this picture?

The man on the left is Iranian.

The man on the right is British.

Notice the skin tone?

The ruling Classes in Iran, Afghanistan and India have for the most part throughout history been the Aryans.

image1.jpg


Lucid, I admire your spirit but you have made a mistake. The man on the right is not "British",he is the jewish Home Secretary of Britain.
 
You know that Iranians are Persian, right? My anthropology text states that "aryans" were dark skinned, not light. Your definition is no longer in technical use.

What "text" are you referring to?

In fact, Aryan also means: A member of any people speaking an Indo-European language. That's absurd, and as such, it's no longer used. There are some eskimos who are said to speak an indo-european language. I guess they are "aryans" too, right?

Of course Eskimos are not Indo-Europeans anymore than me speaking Chineese would make me an Oriental.

If you look in the dictionary, you will find this statement about Aryans: It is one of the ironies of history that Aryan, a word nowadays referring to the blond-haired, blue-eyed physical ideal of Nazi Germany, originally referred to a people who looked vastly different.

What "dictionary"? Is it ZOG approved?

Further: it hasd been proposed that the original homeland of the Indo-Europeans had been in northern Europe. From this theory, it was but a small leap to think of the Aryans as having had a northern European physiotype. While these theories were playing themselves out, certain anti-Semitic scholars in Germany took to viewing the Jews in Germany as the main non-Aryan people because of their Semitic roots. (This theory has since been called into question.)



Germans are not Aryans.

Yes the Germans are Aryans. You repeating the opposite position as a sacred mantra will not make your assertion a truism.

The Iranian you see is an unusually light-toned man. Many are not. Skin colour is difficult to measure, since it is controled by many genes creating a gradation effect. I think the term for it is polygenic inheretence. There are many blacks who look white, naturally, or at least very light.[/QUOTE]

There has been much miscegenation in Persia,even more so in India with the break down of the caste system.
 
Lucidthots said:
The word "Aryan" is not actually a racial term.

It is a religious term.

The word comes from the Magi (Aryan Priests).

Aryan means "pure".

This religious term became associated with this "Eurasian Race" which came into the Caspian and India.

So "Aryan" came to have a dual meaning.

A religious meaning and the name of the Eurasian Race.

When Germans refer to someone as "Aryan" German...it is used as an adjective.

They are really saying "pure" German; meaning without any mixed racial blood.

Jewish Germans were not Aryans.

The "truest" definition of "Aryan" is its religious term meaning "pure" referring to ones heart/soul, not thier race.


The term Aryan has a biological and spiritual useage.
We need a seperate thread on this issue which I will attempt in the very near future.
I would also point out that a jew can never be a German. A German is only a German by blood.
Our opponents detest our use of the term Aryan because it gives them the shits.It sends a tingling fear down their pc spines.
 
Lucidthots said:
It has been rejected becuse of racism against Germanic people.

The old version of history is the true one.

Much of what is portrayed as "fact" in modern anthropology is often deeply rooted in Political propaganda; as it always has been I suppose.

The history of the ancient Aryans was thrown out not because it was untrue...but because of Political reasons.

Absolutely correct and one can trace this change in what is accepted "truth" after WW11 had ended. Suddenly the term Aryan became out of favour and anthropologists and other "scholars" sought alternative explanations of our origins to suit their political masters and the people who pulled their strings,the jews.
 
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