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The Ukraine illustrates why the constitution has a second amendment.

craig said:
I have long advocated for gun owners to be vetted the same as concealed carry.
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Then you demand gun control not seen in almost any state in the union


Some would say you are a gun control extremist
 
vegas giants said:
Then you demand gun control not seen in almost any state in the union


Some would say you are a gun control extremist
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I am a moderate and own many guns. I believe in a reasonable interpretation of the second amendment. I am not an extremist of the left or right.
 
Just as an aside, it's not "the" Ukraine, it's just Ukraine.
 
craig said:
I am a moderate and own many guns. I believe in a reasonable interpretation of the second amendment. I am not an extremist of the left or right.
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You demand proficiency testing just to own a gun


That is extremist by every measure
 
j brown's body said:
I have never heard anyone argue the population should be armed to protect the state.
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Well actually, that was literally the entire reason for the 2nd Amendment. The idea the founders had was that the United States would not have a standing army, but rather would have to depend upon its citizenry to defend the country. That was to be a check against a corrupt government as the citizens would only defend a responsive government.
 
vegas giants said:
You demand proficiency testing just to own a gun


That is extremist by every measure
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I want people to know how to use a chainsaw if they own one.
 
craig said:
As apposed to the United States?
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Either could be used for USA. It is a conglomeration of states, while Ukraine is simply a country. No one says "the Mexico" or "the Russia" or "the Germany".
 
craig said:
When they eventually win this struggle. (And I believe they will.) They will cherish their democracy and never allow autocrats or charlatans peddling dissention threaten them again. Something we have forgotten.
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i do think they'll win with rifles and handguns.

all the other stuff is just wasted money.
 
noonereal said:
In fact, I am the smart one. The one that understands both sides of the issues.
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no one can tell if you are, because you post childish trolling nonsense that makes stupid claims and rarely addresses the subject of the thread.
 
vegas giants said:
So you believe training is REQUIRED by the second amendment?
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Nope. It could be required by 10 USC 246, but that would be for all males age 17-44, not just gun owners. I'd love to see the mitia mustered.
 
Airyaman said:
Either could be used for USA. It is a conglomeration of states, while Ukraine is simply a country. No one says "the Mexico" or "the Russia" or "the Germany".
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I agree. My usage was for a region without formal borders, that is no longer correct. I will be more careful.
 
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