The two greatest human inventions

[Hamish Howl]

Toilet plunger and the George Foreman grill.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Tis. And civilization was our downfall.

Yeah, this painless dentistry and flush toilets thing sucks.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Let's go back to the good old days, when a ruptured appendix was the end.

 

[Craig234]

Without pointy sticks and rocks we wouldn't be here today.

Without pointy sticks and rocks some people wouldn't be killed. Imagine if gunpowder/explosives didn't exist.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Without pointy sticks and rocks some people wouldn't be killed.

Yes they would, but they'd have died of leopard-related injuries.

 

[Grand Mal]

???????? oh yeah----let's go back to the hunter-gatherer life...........

Theres no going back. We were evicted from the Garden of Eden and we cant go back.
Listen. Humanity was never meant for civilization. That ought to be obvious to anyone who looks objectively at the world today. Civilization is just a word we tag onto a greatly diminished version of ourselves where we bicker, squabble and kill over the things civilization has bestowed on us. We were stronger, surer, more able before we were civilized. Civilization has weakened us and made us into lackeys, minions and useful idiots.
We were who we should be when we were hunting and gathering. Now we're all employees.
But hey, now we have toilet paper.

 

[Grand Mal]

Says the guy who has never lived but in a civilization.

Nor have you. Point?
Do you mean that the only life you've ever lived is the only life that should be lived?

 

[Fishking]

So, not written word?

Seems like without written word, nothing we know today would exist.

Written word is definitely way up there on the list, throwing in the printing press to combine with it makes it even more on point.

 

[Fishking]

Theres no going back. We were evicted from the Garden of Eden and we cant go back.
Listen. Humanity was never meant for civilization. That ought to be obvious to anyone who looks objectively at the world today. Civilization is just a word we tag onto a greatly diminished version of ourselves where we bicker, squabble and kill over the things civilization has bestowed on us. We were stronger, surer, more able before we were civilized. Civilization has weakened us and made us into lackeys, minions and useful idiots.
We were who we should be when we were hunting and gathering. Now we're all employees.
But hey, now we have toilet paper.

Reading Professor Theodore Kaczynski's work?

 

[Grand Mal]

Let's go back to the good old days, when a ruptured appendix was the end.

Nah. Lets stay in the good new days when our hours are spent in pursuits whose only point is making someone else richer then they are now.
Rich meaning controlling a large part of the surplus that civilization allows us to create.

 

[Grand Mal]

Reading Professor Theodore Kaczynski's work?

Never heard of him.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

I would think fire in ancient times and electricity in modern times.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Never heard of him.

He was really serious about havin' a good time.

 

[Antiwar]

Theres no going back. We were evicted from the Garden of Eden ...

With respect:

Religious beliefs?

 

[Grand Mal]

He was really serious about havin' a good time.

Ah.
Serious and good time sound kind of mutually exclusive to me but I can see how others might get serious about it.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Ah.
Serious and good time sound kind of mutually exclusive to me but I can see how others might get serious about it.

See, this is because you live in a civilized nation.

Here, you better be serious about having a good time.

 

[Grand Mal]

With respect.

Religious beliefs?

Every culture has a creation myth. The one in Genesis is one of the best.
Does that answer your question? I hope so because I wont be getting further into it here.

 

[independentusa]

I agree with you. I would also go one step further. The spoken language, written language, and mathematics. Without those three things civilization as we have today for us hairless monkeys would not exist.

What makes us different from the monkeys is the apposable thumbs and a larger brain. I agree with mathematics. I think almost everything we do is based on mathematics including even things like our music.

 

[Court Jester]

Toilet paper and the ice maker

 

[Stealers Wheel]

The printing press.
It led to mass literacy.
It made the thoughts of great thinkers available to the masses.
Some of the masses became great thinkers themselves.
It led to truth, as the elite could no longer lie to the masses with impunity.
It gave masses access to history, philosophy, mathematics, science, and poetry.
It drove the demand for libraries, schools, and more inventions.

 

[AConcernedCitizen]

The two greatest inventions were spoken language, followed closely by written language.

Solar panels are pretty cool, but nowhere close to language.

 

[tshade]

Theres no going back. We were evicted from the Garden of Eden and we cant go back.
Listen. Humanity was never meant for civilization. That ought to be obvious to anyone who looks objectively at the world today. Civilization is just a word we tag onto a greatly diminished version of ourselves where we bicker, squabble and kill over the things civilization has bestowed on us. We were stronger, surer, more able before we were civilized. Civilization has weakened us and made us into lackeys, minions and useful idiots.
We were who we should be when we were hunting and gathering. Now we're all employees.
But hey, now we have toilet paper.

???? The Hunter-Gatherer life was no "Garden Of Eden", get real....
You have to speak for yourself when it comes to what civilization has done for us....
I got news for ya----EVERYONE in prehistoric times was "an employee" to nature......................you want to go back to being a near animal, be my guest

 

[element94]

With respect:

I'm listening to a Bill McKibben speech and interview. He said that in the future humanity will realize that humans' two greatest inventions were:

1. Solar panels.

2. Noviolent civil disobedience.

I agree.

I was gonna say the sandwich.

 

[element94]

With respect:

Religious beliefs?

Fiction was a powerful invention.

 

[Mithrae]

Mankind was doomed the day we started farming.
Agriculture made two things possible- we could live crowded together in cities and we could create a surplus. All of our problems come from two questions- who will rule the city and who will control the surplus?

You've been reading Genesis again, haven't you?

Edit: Hah, I knew it!

Exactly. Thats what the Garden of Eden was, mankind as hunter-gatherers.

We were stronger, surer, more able before we were civilized. Civilization has weakened us and made us into lackeys, minions and useful idiots.
We were who we should be when we were hunting and gathering. Now we're all employees.
But hey, now we have toilet paper.

Fight Club too?