The tragedy of the american military

[bongsaway]

Yep, and that is supported almost entirely by our single-payer (DoD) system. At least you can take comfort in the fact that single-payer systems, carefully regulated by congress, result in massive cost savings.

Like the postal service the military service makes no money for america.

 

[Peter]

Like the postal service the military service makes no money for america.

I'd argue that point.
The US military acts as a giant advertisement for US built military equipment that you sell all around the world.
Just look at the number of combat jets you've sold over the years, that's certainly kept a whole bunch of people in highly skilled and paying jobs for decades.

 

[joko104]

Yep, and that is supported almost entirely by our single-payer (DoD) system. At least you can take comfort in the fact that single-payer systems, carefully regulated by congress, result in massive cost savings.

The Democrat's plan is simple:

The government will totally control your life. What you may and may not say, do and have. Every dollar belongs to the government and International super rich. Then you can try to prove you are worthy and submissive enough, that you slaved hard enough for the rich and government, to have enough food today for you and your family. If you are in the top 10% of their servants and slaves you might actually be allowed as aspirin. Or maybe half of one.

 

[joko104]

Like the postal service the military service makes no money for america.

The purpose of the military largely was to protect American economic interests in the world, to protect the American Empire, the source of our wealth.

Democrats like you openly want to eliminate the American Empire and turn the USA into an impoverished state of a world corporate-fascist government.

 

[bongsaway]

I'd argue that point.
The US military acts as a giant advertisement for US built military equipment that you sell all around the world.
Just look at the number of combat jets you've sold over the years, that's certainly kept a whole bunch of people in highly skilled and paying jobs for decades.

That is the military industrial complex not the military.

 

[bongsaway]

The purpose of the military largely was to protect American economic interests in the world, to protect the American Empire, the source of our wealth.

Democrats like you openly want to eliminate the American Empire and turn the USA into an impoverished state of a world corporate-fascist government.

I thought it was to protect america? We don't have an empire, we have america.

 

[Dayton3]

The people who were actually on the ground in Iraq inspecting his weapons programs didn’t think he had them.

There’s lots of countries that brutally oppress their people. What made Iraq special?

Low hanging fruit. We had the ability and opportunity to deal with them.

 

[Dayton3]

Remember now kids it's all about money more than politics. With that thought in mind, who benefits in this country from all of this warring? Kids can you say the military industrial complex?

You can say it but it doesn't exist. Only one major defense contractor in the United States (Lockheed Martin) earns a majority of its revenue from military work.

 

[bongsaway]

You can say it but it doesn't exist. Only one major defense contractor in the United States (Lockheed Martin) earns a majority of its revenue from military work.

So that means it doesn’t exist? Good one.

 

[Questerr]

Low hanging fruit. We had the ability and opportunity to deal with them.

We don't have the ability and opportunity to deal with Saudi Arabia?

 

[Dayton3]

We don't have the ability and opportunity to deal with Saudi Arabia?

Muslims around the world would take any kind of western military action against Saudi Arabia to be an "attack on their faith" due to the cities of Mecca and Medina being located there. The U.S. would become a target for Muslim terrorist fanatics on a scale that dwarfs anything we've seen to date.

 

[Questerr]

Muslims around the world would take any kind of western military action against Saudi Arabia to be an "attack on their faith" due to the cities of Mecca and Medina being located there. The U.S. would become a target for Muslim terrorist fanatics on a scale that dwarfs anything we've seen to date.

So America is too weak to "liberate" Saudi Arabia?

 

[D_NATURED]

I agree that the US has put it's military in places it shouldn't have been. However, usually, those places were places that had just imploded and help needed to be given. Lebanon was a good example. We went in to distribute food and to stop innocents from being slaughtered. I happen to think that those are pretty good goals. The US doesn't put our military into places trying to take them over. We put our military into places like Lebanon, where there was widespread killing, in order to stop the killing, and give a stable government a chance to take root.

Unfortunately, we usually fail at trying to bring peace and a stable government to an area not ready for it.

Ah, the old, fascist "peace through war" meme. Using the military to create peace is like using a jackhammer to treat hemmeroids. It's the WRONG tool for the job but, sadly, the military is the only trusted, funded organization in our country. American diplomacy has been reduced to demands, threats and actual violence, the only tool in the box.

If we loved "the troops" so much, we'd never ask them to walk such an absurd line. And, BTW, we DO take over places. And, when we do, we leave military bases behind.

 

[bomberfox]

Americans expect way too much out of our foreign interventions. I call it the "curse of World War Two". We want everything to be like American involvement in World War Two or at least our perceptions of WW2. That is a clear and obvious foreign attack to bring us into the conflict. A large scale straight up conflict, and most definitely a clear and obvious decisive formal victory.

Most wars are not like that (neither was World War 2 either but that's another discussion)

Clear ends would be nice. No win or loss condition in iraq. This is endless war cheney propaganda, trump reminds me a lot of cheney. Wannabe dictator who demanded everyone thank him for ****ing up their lives. That bastard can rot.

 

[bomberfox]

You can say it but it doesn't exist. Only one major defense contractor in the United States (Lockheed Martin) earns a majority of its revenue from military work.

The number of companies is not important. Its the relationships between them and politicians. Btw we are still ****ing around with latin america with latin america wanting their democracies back.