WRONG.
Glen Contrarian said:
Your post is a great example of the Right's refusal to grasp the importance of empathy for the people that the Right doesn't like.
WRONG, I'm not 'The Right.'
It shows your MISperception here, and certainly elsewhere.
Two of my most recent posts:
In Favor of more Progressive Taxes
http://www.debatepolitics.com/the-l...y-progressive-flat-tax-10.html#post1065867072
in addition to an understanding of economics you could only dream of.
On AGW:
http://www.debatepolitics.com/envir...ttest-april-ever-recorded.html#post1065869450
I am one of the few in the non-Partisan Math, Science, and History, center.
You, OTOH, are hard Left across the board
Glen Contrarian said:
Tell me, guy, how would YOU feel, how trusting would YOU be towards Muslims if, say, Iran engineered a coup in America in 1953, removed our democratically-elected government, and installed a king instead? Maybe you're very young and that seems like a long time to you, but that would be within the living memory of many millions of Americans who would have watched as Iran forcibly replaced our government with the one they wanted there. How do you think Americans would feel towards Iran? Distrust? Yeah. Hatred? Yeah. We'd be shouting "Death to Iran" every day.
THAT, sir, is why so many in Iran hate us...and why (along with the Sykes-Picot Agreement) so many in the Middle East don't trust us.
Um.. whether or not Iran trusts us means very little to the theme of the string.
That theme. How turmoil was fomented by Sykes and it's borders. Iran pretty unscathed.
In addition, ALL the states have issues.
Oh, and Iran doesn't "hate us". It's people like us, it's Islamist leaders, one of the earlier 'Arab/Islamic Springs'/revolutions.
The Islamist
Muslim Brotherhood started in 1928.
Turmoil has followed the toppling of all the Middle East Strongmen, whether they had our support or not.
GlenContrarian said:
And there's one more thing you're apparently not understanding - how long people in other cultures hold grudges. You've heard of "the Hatfields and McCoys" feud back in the 1800's, and it's now seen as a comedic joke anymore here in America. But over there, in a part of the world where it's not unusual at all to walk by buildings thousands of years old, FAR older than any human construction here in the Western Hemisphere, grudges and blood-feuds can last for many generations.
:^)
'Hatfield/McCoy' is rather new compared to the Sunni/Shia fight that caused MOST of the M-E deaths before Syria erupted, but the latter too is in part also to do with it, and part of that Sunni-Shia/Saudi-Iran Proxy war
That old feud, not even a result of Sykes!
The Arab (and Iran) M-E was bound to explode because of Sykes borders, but also because of inevitable conflict once the strongmen were removed (by any means).
And of course, the revival of Mohammedan/7th c Islamism by Wahhabism of the 18th c, and the aforementioned M-B in 1928.
GlenContrarian said:
In other words, guy, if you're going to see them as your enemy, your first step is - as Sun Tzu said so long ago - KNOW your enemy...and you can't know your enemy if you don't have a real understanding of WHY they're pissed at you and your own people...and why they might have a very good reason for being pissed.
I've been posting on M-E issues for 15 years.
"IOW guy," it's clear from THIS post, as well as my other posts in this string alone, (see bottom of pg 1), that I can post fluently and elaborately on the issue. You, just your usual extraneous 'Blame the USA' Yawner in a Sykes-Picot string.
The relative fluency in our posts on M-E issues is apparent to anyone... and I have made about 2600 others on the topic.