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The Stark Truth About Sanctions Against Russia

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Last night I was watching an interview with a person very knowledgeable about Russia that stated that Russia is receiving about $1 billion per day in income from Germany, Italy, and Austria in the import of Natural Gas and that the war is costing them about $1 billion per day, meaning that at this time they are able to continue the war unabated.

The interviewee stated that if these 3 countries would stop imports from Russia, that it would cause Putin to fall from power almost immediately.

Unfortunately, at this time, it seems impossible for those 3 countries to stop their imports as they cannot replace the required/needed gas elsewhere.

Why a ban on Russian energy is hard for Germany
 

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Last night I was watching an interview with a person very knowledgeable about Russia that stated that Russia is receiving about $1 billion per day in income from Germany, Italy, and Austria in the import of Natural Gas and that the war is costing them about $1 billion per day, meaning that at this time they are able to continue the war unabated.

The interviewee stated that if these 3 countries would stop imports from Russia, that it would cause Putin to fall from power almost immediately.

Unfortunately, at this time, it seems impossible for those 3 countries to stop their imports as they cannot replace the required/needed gas elsewhere.

Why a ban on Russian energy is hard for Germany

The stark truth is that sanctions, while better than war, are not an efficient way of causing a regime to lose power.

Cuba, North Korea, and Iran— all far weaker countries than Russia— have weathered sanctions for decades, yet their regimes remain firmly in power.
 

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The stark truth is that sanctions, while better than war, are not an efficient way of causing a regime to lose power.

Cuba, North Korea, and Iran— all far weaker countries than Russia— have weathered sanctions for decades, yet their regimes remain firmly in power.
Yep. That's why I only support sanctions as a measure to hamper Russia's ability to wage war.
 

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Last night I was watching an interview with a person very knowledgeable about Russia that stated that Russia is receiving about $1 billion per day in income from Germany, Italy, and Austria in the import of Natural Gas and that the war is costing them about $1 billion per day, meaning that at this time they are able to continue the war unabated.

The interviewee stated that if these 3 countries would stop imports from Russia, that it would cause Putin to fall from power almost immediately.

Unfortunately, at this time, it seems impossible for those 3 countries to stop their imports as they cannot replace the required/needed gas elsewhere.A

Why a ban on Russian energy is hard for Germany
First of all, you can't fault European nations for not destroying their economies to spite Russia. Second, that billion dollar a day income is not all profit. All the exploration, production, shipping and administrative costs must be deducted from that.

While I agree the sanctions should be stronger they are having an effect. However, the Russian people have a history of coping with hardships. They are tough and proud. They won't cave easily.
 

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Last night I was watching an interview with a person very knowledgeable about Russia that stated that Russia is receiving about $1 billion per day in income from Germany, Italy, and Austria in the import of Natural Gas and that the war is costing them about $1 billion per day, meaning that at this time they are able to continue the war unabated.

The interviewee stated that if these 3 countries would stop imports from Russia, that it would cause Putin to fall from power almost immediately.

Unfortunately, at this time, it seems impossible for those 3 countries to stop their imports as they cannot replace the required/needed gas elsewhere.

Why a ban on Russian energy is hard for Germany
Trump warned them. They've put themselves between a rock and a hard place. They are effectively paying Russia to wage war.
 

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Those not on Russia's sanction list probably have a July 4th date in Moscow.... Again.
 

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Last night I was watching an interview with a person very knowledgeable about Russia that stated that Russia is receiving about $1 billion per day in income from Germany, Italy, and Austria in the import of Natural Gas and that the war is costing them about $1 billion per day, meaning that at this time they are able to continue the war unabated.

The interviewee stated that if these 3 countries would stop imports from Russia, that it would cause Putin to fall from power almost immediately.

Unfortunately, at this time, it seems impossible for those 3 countries to stop their imports as they cannot replace the required/needed gas elsewhere.

Why a ban on Russian energy is hard for Germany

Hindsight says they shouldn't have trusted a newly minted Russia in the first place. But hindsight in another universe might say they should have.

It's a bad situation, but it's hard to say whether the tangled ties with Russia that grew up around the effort to welcome a possibly reforming power into the world

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