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The Shutdown Is The Result Of A Failure Of Leadership, Strategy, And Will

In response to that, here was the White House offer:

Democratic Priorities​
Republican Priorities​
Protections for Dreamers​
  • Liberal: Path to Citizenship for Dreamers and renewable legal status for parents.
  • Moderate: Path to Citizenship for Dreamers alone.
  • Conservative: 3-Year Renewable legal status for DACA (a subset of Dreamers).
Border Wall​
  • Liberal: No funding for a border wall.
  • Moderate: Limited funding for a border wall.
  • Conservative: More funding for a border wall.
Family-Based Migration​
  • Liberal: No change to current visa system.
  • Moderate: Scale back family-based migration (spouses and children only) and reallocate visas to highly educated and skilled workers or qualifying family.
  • Conservative: Scale back family-based migration and not reallocate visas.
Other Border Security​
  • Liberal: Limited funding for border security.
  • Moderate: Significant funding for border security.
  • Conservative: Significant funding for border security and new bio-metric exit-entry system.
Diversity Visa Lottery​
  • Liberal: No change to current diversity lottery visa system.
  • Moderate: End diversity lottery and reallocate visas.
  • Conservative: End diversity lottery and not reallocate visas.
Interior Enforcement​
  • Liberal: No increased enforcement of immigration laws.
  • Moderate: Heavier enforcement of immigration laws.
  • Conservative: Heavier enforcement of immigration laws, crack down on sanctuary cities, implement E-Verify.

This one failed 39-60.

Democrats Voting For:
Donnelly (IN)
Heitkamp (ND)
Manchin (WV)

Republicans Voting Against:
Barrasso (WY)*
Collins (ME)
Cruz (TX)*
Daines (MT)*
Enzi (WY)*
Flake (AZ)
Inhofe (OK)*
Kennedy (LA)*
Lee (UT)*
Moran (KS)*
Murkowski (AK)
Paul (KY)*
Sasse (NE)*
Thune (SD)*

* - Indicates a hard-line vote.

I think it's fair to say that the Schumer/Collins bipartisan package was a lot less insulting than the President's.
 
Schumer's offer was $1.6 billion, DACA and no wall. Completely rejected by Trump and the American people. The shutdown will continue and watch for vetoes coming from the desk of president Trump.

First it was accepted. Don't be a liar.
 
Really? Because here was the offer put together by Schumer & Collins and the so-called "Common Sense Coalition" that was on the table last February:

Democratic Priorities​
Republican Priorities​
Protections for Dreamers​
  • Liberal: Path to Citizenship for Dreamers and renewable legal status for parents.
  • Moderate: Path to Citizenship for Dreamers alone.
  • Conservative: 3-Year Renewable legal status for DACA (a subset of Dreamers).
Border Wall​
  • Liberal: No funding for a border wall.
  • Moderate: Limited funding for a border wall.
  • Conservative: More funding for a border wall.
Family-Based Migration​
  • Liberal: No change to current visa system.
  • Moderate: Scale back family-based migration (spouses and children only) and reallocate visas to highly educated and skilled workers or qualifying family.
  • Conservative: Scale back family-based migration and not reallocate visas.
Other Border Security​
  • Liberal: Limited funding for border security.
  • Moderate: Significant funding for border security.
  • Conservative: Significant funding for border security and new bio-metric exit-entry system.



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Nowhere was there the offer of $25 billion for the wall by Democrats. There wasn't even and inference related to Democrats in favor or proposing of building a wall in all you posted. In fact under the 2006 wall bill that proposed 700 miles of building a wall, Obama only had about 37 miles of that wall/fence built. Whatever happened to the $50 billion allotted over 25 years to building the wall/fence?

Obama says the border fence is 'now basically complete ...
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...ama-says-border-fence-now-basically-complete/
"Five years ago, legislation was passed to build a 700-mile double-layer border fence along the southwest border," DeMint wrote. "This is a promise that has not been kept. Today, according to staff at the Department of Homeland Security, just 5 percent of the double-layer fencing is complete, only 36.3 miles."
So Obama can make a case that the vehicle barriers and single-layer pedestrian fences meet the amended letter of the law. But we also think Obama misleads, particularly when he mocks Republican opponents, saying that even though the fence has been built, "They'll want a higher fence. Maybe they’ll need a moat. Maybe they want alligators in the moat." The Border Patrol has not gone "above and beyond" what Republicans requested, as Obama claimed. What they originally requested was a double-layer fence, and they didn't get much of it. And so we rate Obama's statement Barely True.
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Top Democrats Voted For The Border Wall Trump Is Building ...
https://dailycaller.com/2017/01/25/top-democrats-voted-for-the...
In addition to then Sens. Obama, Biden and Clinton, 64 House Democrats and 23 Senate Democrats voted for the wall in 2006.
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How Democrats Made Sure The Border Wall They Voted For Was Never Built
https://dailycaller.com/2016/11/19/...e-border-wall-they-voted-for-was-never-built/
Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and scores of other Democrats voted for the construction of at least a double-layered wall on the southern border with Mexico in 2006, but the wall was never built after their party derailed it the following year.
 
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First it was accepted. Don't be a liar.


In January 2018 Trump refused Schumer's offer for $1.6 billion. In any case Schumer reneged on the offer within hours.

Schumer offered Trump something Democrats hate for ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/01/20/schumer...
In a news conference on Saturday, White House budget director Mick Mulvaney disparaged Schumer for claiming to have agreed to funding the wall — he actually agreed to only the $1.6 billion
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Government shutdown drags on as Trump keeps pushing for ...
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/24/government-shutdown-drags-on-as...
Sen. David Perdue, a Georgia Republican and Trump ally, put Pence's offer at somewhere between $1.6 billion and $5 billion for border security, according to NBC.
 
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Nowhere was there the offer of $25 billion for the wall by Democrats. There wasn't even and inference related to Democrats in favor or proposing of building a wall in all you posted. wall was never built after their party derailed it the following year.

You're mistaken.... it was one of the proposals voted down last Feb. 15.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/12/17003552/senate-immigration-bill-floor-debate

Trump could have had his wall funding if he had signed off on it back then... but the "Great Deal Maker" let that one go by him without even taking a swing.
 
Gee, you mean when your Dear Leader tries to force Americans to pay for the wall he claimed Mexico was going to pay for?

An utterly useless joke which won't make the US even moderately more secure?

How is shutting off access to illegal entry into the US not making the US even moderately more secure from invasions of illegal mobs? Immigration officers report they are capturing at least 10 known terrorists a week crossing our unsecured border. Democrats are morons for refusing to see and deal with such a threat.
 
How is shutting off access to illegal entry into the US not making the US even moderately more secure from invasions of illegal mobs? Immigration officers report they are capturing at least 10 known terrorists a week crossing our unsecured border. Democrats are morons for refusing to see and deal with such a threat.

The wall would not shut off illegal immigration. Not even close.

A) one can go around the wall, given we have an extremely vast coastline; B) the wall does nothing to keep people from overstaying their visas; C) one could go under the wall; and D) the Canadian border—-which not a single Trump cultist gives a **** about—is wide open.

So no, the wall wouldn’t make us even a little bit more secure. Conservatives are morons for obsessing over an idiotic wet dream. And funnily enough, there doesn’t actually seem to be any evidence that all these terrorists are being captured. If that were true there’d be routine shootouts along the border but nope, doesn’t seem to be any such thing.

Which raises quite a few questions.
 
The wall would not shut off illegal immigration. Not even close.

A) one can go around the wall, given we have an extremely vast coastline; B) the wall does nothing to keep people from overstaying their visas; C) one could go under the wall; and D) the Canadian border—-which not a single Trump cultist gives a **** about—is wide open.

So no, the wall wouldn’t make us even a little bit more secure. Conservatives are morons for obsessing over an idiotic wet dream. And funnily enough, there doesn’t actually seem to be any evidence that all these terrorists are being captured. If that were true there’d be routine shootouts along the border but nope, doesn’t seem to be any such thing.

Which raises quite a few questions.

You make too many unproven assertions and inreasonable assumptions from your unqualified easy chair.
 
You make too many unproven assertions and inreasonable assumptions from your unqualified easy chair.

Nope, I point out the inconvenient facts you Trump cultists don't want to hear.
 
Nope, I point out the inconvenient facts you Trump cultists don't want to hear.

Delusion drives democrats to want to fundamentally dismantle God bless America and rebuild it into a type of godless barbarian communistic democrat oligarchy.
 
Delusion drives democrats to want to fundamentally dismantle God bless America and rebuild it into a type of godless barbarian communistic democrat oligarchy.

Yes, your raving does sound rather delusional.

The idea that you think god would bless terrorism and slavery is downright despicable.

The real barbarians are people like your ilk, who happily bombed churches to try to keep African Americans from using their rights.
 
Yes, your raving does sound rather delusional.

The idea that you think god would bless terrorism and slavery is downright despicable.

The real barbarians are people like your ilk, who happily bombed churches to try to keep African Americans from using their rights.

What does "people like your ilk" mean? People who descended from Americans who lived in America when ungodly morons bombed their enemies out of bigoted hatred for those they did not like for some dumb uncivilized reason?
 
What does "people like your ilk" mean? People who descended from Americans who lived in America when ungodly morons bombed their enemies out of bigoted hatred for those they did not like for some dumb uncivilized reason?

Hate to break it to you but the Klan and its supporters used religion as an excuse to justify their actions.

And before them the "Curse of Ham" was used to justify slavery.
 
Hate to break it to you but the Klan and its supporters used religion as an excuse to justify their actions.

And before them the "Curse of Ham" was used to justify slavery.

Of course most southern democrats who created the KKK were also professing Christians, albeit very stupid Christians.
 
Of course most southern democrats who created the KKK were also professing Christians, albeit very stupid Christians.

Yes, the southern conservatives who created the Klan were all Christians.

They also were mostly former Confederates.

But coming from someone who called Obama the "black Bolshevik" on another thread I'm not surprised your ignorance is showing.
 
Yes, the southern conservatives who created the Klan were all Christians.

They also were mostly former Confederates.

But coming from someone who called Obama the "black Bolshevik" on another thread I'm not surprised your ignorance is showing.

If you think only whites can be Bolsheviks then just remember Obama is just as much white as he is black.
 
If you think only whites can be Bolsheviks then just remember Obama is just as much white as he is black.

Obama was not a "Bolshevik" at all.

That you claim otherwise merely shows how laughably ignorant you are.
 
Obama was not a "Bolshevik" at all.

That you claim otherwise merely shows how laughably ignorant you are.

Obama was not totally aligned with communist Bolshevism, but he is far closer to that sort of nonsense than Trump is.
 
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