The Senate Debate over Immigration (1 Viewer)

[-Demosthenes-]

The Senate is close to a bipartisan agreement, they are trying to get a vote in before the end of the week.

It seems to be:

Those who have lived in the country at least five years would be put on a path toward guaranteed citizenship, provided that they remained employed, paid fines and back taxes, and learned English. Mr. Frist said said this group accounted for about 60 percent of the roughly 11 million illegal immigrants believed to be living here.

¶Those who have lived here for two to five years, said to number about three million, would have to leave the country briefly before reporting to an American port of entry, where they would be classified as temporary workers. They would be allowed to apply for citizenship but would have no guarantee of obtaining it. Those who did not would have to leave after participating in the temporary worker program for six years.

¶The remaining one million or so, those who have lived in the country less than two years, would be required to leave. They could apply for temporary worker status but would not be guaranteed it.

and:

Mr. Frist said the compromise bill would be combined with one he had proposed concerning border security and cracking down on employers who hire illegal immigrants.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/06/washington/06cnd-immig.html?hp&ex=1144382400&en=6d67375fd1fd9fe0&ei=5094&partner=homepage

 

[chesswarsnow]

The Senate is close to a bipartisan agreement, they are trying to get a vote in before the end of the week.

It seems to be:


and:



http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/06/washington/06cnd-immig.html?hp&ex=1144382400&en=6d67375fd1fd9fe0&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Sorry bout that,

1. It will never work.
2. Pointless.
3. Perhaps 1.876 percent will pay attention to it.
4. Pointless. did i use that already?
5. Unconstitutional.
6. Throws out all USA Immigration Laws.
7. Pandering.
8. Invites billions more illegals.
9. Build the wall would be the first step.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[-Demosthenes-]

1. It will never work.
2. Pointless.
3. Perhaps 1.876 percent will pay attention to it.
4. Pointless. did i use that already?

Until you support your claims somehow they are nothing but truthiness.

Truthiness is the quality by which a person purports to know something emotionally or instinctively, without regard to evidence or to what the person might conclude from intellectual examination.

5. Unconstitutional.

More truthiness?

6. Throws out all USA Immigration Laws.

You said yourself that they didn't work.

7. Pandering.

U. N. S. U. P. P. O. R. T. E. D. C. L. A. I. M.

More truthiness.

Nothing against you, I just don't know how to get the point across. How can I discuss anything with you if you won't tell me why or give me any rationale for your claims?

8. Invites billions more illegals.

How does it do that?

9. Build the wall would be the first step.

You still haven't told us why immigrants are bad.

I think it's important to note that those who can apply for citizenship will have to learn English, play back taxes, and pay fines.

 

[chesswarsnow]

Until you support your claims somehow they are nothing but truthiness.





More truthiness?



You said yourself that they didn't work.



U. N. S. U. P. P. O. R. T. E. D. C. L. A. I. M.

More truthiness.

Nothing against you, I just don't know how to get the point across. How can I discuss anything with you if you won't tell me why or give me any rationale for your claims?



How does it do that?



You still haven't told us why immigrants are bad.

I think it's important to note that those who can apply for citizenship will have to learn English, play back taxes, and pay fines.

1. Our brothers down south are not bad, what they are doing by sneaking into USA illegally is bad thou.
2. What if 12 million white Americans would sneak into Mexico and set up homesteads, started playing loud Rock and Roll music, started having babies at their expense, wanted free housing, free food, free education in English, started driving cars without insurance, adding crime to their world, then we start saying that they are racist for wanting us to leave their country.
3. As we run up and down the streets in huge protests waving our American Flags saying we wont go back to USA.
4. I don't see why we put up with these hoards of illegals whatsoever.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[-Demosthenes-]

1. Our brothers down south are not bad, what they are doing by sneaking into USA illegally is bad thou.
2. What if 12 million white Americans would sneak into Mexico and set up homesteads, started playing loud Rock and Roll music, started having babies at their expense, wanted free housing, free food, free education in English, started driving cars without insurance, adding crime to their world, then we start saying that they are racist for wanting us to leave their country.
3. As we run up and down the streets in huge protests waving our American Flags saying we wont go back to USA.
4. I don't see why we put up with these hoards of illegals whatsoever.

I understand that (that was a very good comparison by the way), I just don't agree with ideas that start with "First we build a wall..."

PS, the senate bill fell through

 

[chesswarsnow]

I understand that (that was a very good comparison by the way), I just don't agree with ideas that start with "First we build a wall..."

PS, the senate bill fell through

Sorry bout that,

1. So you want this next years batch, and the next, etc?
2. We will build that wall. Sooner or Later.
3. To your PS, Sure it did, I emailed them they were all committing political suicide.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[-Demosthenes-]

Sorry bout that,

1. So you want this next years batch, and the next, etc?
2. We will build that wall. Sooner or Later.
3. To your PS, Sure it did, I emailed them they were all committing political suicide.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

I think there should be tighter border security, but it should be much easier to get into the country legally and then become a citizen. As long as they aren't criminals, and they don't cause a dangerous population explosion, then let 'em in.