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The Secret Soviet Marxist Plan to Crush European civilization in 7 Days

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The Secret Soviet Marxist Plan to Crush European civilization in 7 Days. I know the Muscovite Marxist - stalinists were nuts but this plan is some Hitler level crazy.
one forsure this video makes pugabe pans wet , but his ulus rf is not even close to what was ussr

 
Litwin said:
The Secret Soviet Marxist Plan to Crush European civilization in 7 Days. I know the Muscovite Marxist - stalinists were nuts but this plan is some Hitler level crazy.
one forsure this video makes pugabe pans wet , but his ulus rf is not even close to what was ussr

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"Muscovite Marxist" is a stupid phrase used only by Lithuanians who can't history.

"Pugabe" doesn't exist.

The only Ulu is Mongolia.

So much stupid in the OP.

Why should anyone take you seriously?



And did you even watch the video?
 
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Litwin said:
The Secret Soviet Marxist Plan to Crush European civilization in 7 Days. I know the Muscovite Marxist - stalinists were nuts but this plan is some Hitler level crazy.
one forsure this video makes pugabe pans wet , but his ulus rf is not even close to what was ussr

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Yawn. You’ve already made a thread on this before.

And no, it was not particularly crazy.
 
Are you talking about Seven Days to the River Rhine?

****ing work computers blocking youtube.
 
Litwin said:
The Secret Soviet Marxist Plan to Crush European civilization in 7 Days. I know the Muscovite Marxist - stalinists were nuts but this plan is some Hitler level crazy.
one forsure this video makes pugabe pans wet , but his ulus rf is not even close to what was ussr

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The Russians have had this basic plan since the end of WW II but without the nucs
Where we might have messed up was at the end of WWII we didn't listen to Paton and instead of stopping in Germany we should have done what he said to do is keep on going all the way to the Pacific , we could have done it
The Germans weakened the Russians and we were giving them supplies and a lot of military equipment and with out our help they would have been in trouble against Germany
IF we had we wouldn't have had the cold war
Yes we would have lost a lot of lives ( that is the really big down side and we were sick of war and thank god we didn't ) and back then the Russian people knew we were helping them and it was Stalin and his military we would have had to defeat, I think the Russian people would have welcome us because of the way Stalin was treating them
and again the cold war wouldn't have been
and again war is ugly and nobody likes it
have a nice afternoon
 
Litwin said:
The Secret Soviet Marxist Plan to Crush European civilization in 7 Days. I know the Muscovite Marxist - stalinists were nuts but this plan is some Hitler level crazy.
one forsure this video makes pugabe pans wet , but his ulus rf is not even close to what was ussr

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If you look on archive.org and the online library of the CIA you can get quite a large amount of decommissioned military documents from the Cold War era. They are all searchable through google but you do need a bit of luck to find something specific. Most of the texts are very boring, but some offer a much deeper insight in to how the Soviets approached military strategy.

Here is a discussion on the Soviets views of a "Third strike" in nuclear warfare (where they reject mutually assured destruction or M.A.D): https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP87M00539R001001350032-4.pdf

some more views on nuclear war: https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/DOC_0000380715.pdf

Here is (an admittedly large) soviet textbook on overall military strategy: https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/reports/2005/R416.pdf

It is worth keeping in mind that Marxist philosophy had a direct affect on Soviet military thinking, often in subtle ways. So there are significant gulfs between Western and Soviet understandings of the same subjects.
 
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Tigerace117 said:
I was on the side which crushed the Nazis and their collaborators.
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i see you point tovarisch you was , is on the Moscow side



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Tbird19482 said:
The Russians have had this basic plan since the end of WW II but without the nucs
Where we might have messed up was at the end of WWII we didn't listen to Paton and instead of stopping in Germany we should have done what he said to do is keep on going all the way to the Pacific , we could have done it
The Germans weakened the Russians and we were giving them supplies and a lot of military equipment and with out our help they would have been in trouble against Germany
IF we had we wouldn't have had the cold war
Yes we would have lost a lot of lives ( that is the really big down side and we were sick of war and thank god we didn't ) and back then the Russian people knew we were helping them and it was Stalin and his military we would have had to defeat, I think the Russian people would have welcome us because of the way Stalin was treating them
and again the cold war wouldn't have been
and again war is ugly and nobody likes it
have a nice afternoon
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yes, and we were in place to help



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The Ukrainian Insurgent Army fought until eradicated in 1956.
The anti-Soviet Hungarian Revolution took place in 1956.
Baltic partisans known as the "Forest Brothers" fought until eradicated in the early 1960s.
Romanian anti-communist resistance movement fought until eradicated in 1962.
Polish partisans known as the "Cursed soldiers" fought until eradicated in 1963.
Bulgarian partisans known as "Goryani" fought until eradicated in the early 1960s.
Croatian partisans known as "Crusaders" fought until eradicated in the early 1950s.
Albanian partisans (members of the Balli Kombëtar and supporters of the king Zog I) fought until eradicated in the early 1950s.
Serbian partisans known as "Chetniks" fought until eradicated in the early 1950s.
Slovenian partisans fought until eradicated in the early 1950s.
Moldavian partisans (Soviet occupation of Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina) fought until eradicated in the early 1950s.
Some Russian White Movement members fought until eradicated in the 1960s.
Belarusian partisans fought until eradicated in the early 1950s.

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Litwin said:
i see you point tovarisch you was , is on the Moscow side
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Please stop the very stupid accusations you continue to make.

Proving you wrong doesn't make someone "on the Moscow side". It simply means we can understand history as it happened.. Not as a history ignorant person pretends.
 
Litwin said:
yes, and we were in place to help
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The idea that the Soviet people would rise up and join us after they had just received a brutal invasion that had slaughtered 15% of their population is questionable at best.
 
Litwin said:
yes, and we were in place to help

Belarusian Independence Party
Chechen rebels
Cursed soldiers (Poland)
Forest Brothers (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania)

Latvian partisans
Lithuanian partisans
Estonian partisans

Jewish Military Union
Goryani (Bulgaria)
Romanian anti-communist resistance movement
Armata Neagră (Moldova)
Ukrainian Insurgent Army
Organisations formed by Nazi Germany

GULAG Operation
Black Cats (Belarus)
Crusaders (guerrilla) (Croatia)
Anti-Soviet partisans - Wikipedia

The Ukrainian Insurgent Army fought until eradicated in 1956.
The anti-Soviet Hungarian Revolution took place in 1956.
Baltic partisans known as the "Forest Brothers" fought until eradicated in the early 1960s.
Romanian anti-communist resistance movement fought until eradicated in 1962.
Polish partisans known as the "Cursed soldiers" fought until eradicated in 1963.
Bulgarian partisans known as "Goryani" fought until eradicated in the early 1960s.
Croatian partisans known as "Crusaders" fought until eradicated in the early 1950s.
Albanian partisans (members of the Balli Kombëtar and supporters of the king Zog I) fought until eradicated in the early 1950s.
Serbian partisans known as "Chetniks" fought until eradicated in the early 1950s.
Slovenian partisans fought until eradicated in the early 1950s.
Moldavian partisans (Soviet occupation of Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina) fought until eradicated in the early 1950s.
Some Russian White Movement members fought until eradicated in the 1960s.
Belarusian partisans fought until eradicated in the early 1950s.

Eastern European anti-Communist insurgencies - Wikipedia
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And in the end the USSR still stood until the US and NATO prompted their fall.....
 
Jredbaron96 said:
The idea that the Soviet people would rise up and join us after they had just received a brutal invasion that had slaughtered 15% of their population is questionable at best.
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You have to remember they knew we were the ones helping them and sending them supplies they knew we were the " Americans " and we helped them
They knew the Germans were killing them and a lot of other people , Polish, Jews and others
so they may have raised up against Stalin, seeing he was killing some of them and treated them like s---
have a nice day
 
Tbird19482 said:
You have to remember they knew we were the ones helping them and sending them supplies they knew we were the " Americans " and we helped them
They knew the Germans were killing them and a lot of other people , Polish, Jews and others
so they may have raised up against Stalin, seeing he was killing some of them and treated them like s---
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WWII was when Soviet nationalism was at an all time high; it would have been a very hard sell and I don't think it's realistic to believe they would have.
 
Litwin said:
yes, and we were in place to help



Belarusian Independence Party
Chechen rebels
Cursed soldiers (Poland)
Forest Brothers (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania)

Latvian partisans
Lithuanian partisans
Estonian partisans

Jewish Military Union
Goryani (Bulgaria)
Romanian anti-communist resistance movement
Armata Neagră (Moldova)
Ukrainian Insurgent Army
Organisations formed by Nazi Germany

GULAG Operation
Black Cats (Belarus)
Crusaders (guerrilla) (Croatia)
Anti-Soviet partisans - Wikipedia

The Ukrainian Insurgent Army fought until eradicated in 1956.
The anti-Soviet Hungarian Revolution took place in 1956.
Baltic partisans known as the "Forest Brothers" fought until eradicated in the early 1960s.
Romanian anti-communist resistance movement fought until eradicated in 1962.
Polish partisans known as the "Cursed soldiers" fought until eradicated in 1963.
Bulgarian partisans known as "Goryani" fought until eradicated in the early 1960s.
Croatian partisans known as "Crusaders" fought until eradicated in the early 1950s.
Albanian partisans (members of the Balli Kombëtar and supporters of the king Zog I) fought until eradicated in the early 1950s.
Serbian partisans known as "Chetniks" fought until eradicated in the early 1950s.
Slovenian partisans fought until eradicated in the early 1950s.
Moldavian partisans (Soviet occupation of Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina) fought until eradicated in the early 1950s.
Some Russian White Movement members fought until eradicated in the 1960s.
Belarusian partisans fought until eradicated in the early 1950s.

Eastern European anti-Communist insurgencies - Wikipedia
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The “Crusaders” were outright Nazi collaborators, the remnants of the incredibly vicious and vile Croatian fascist regime. Likewise, the Ukrainian insurgents were also full of collaborators and committed numerous atrocities against Poles in areas they wanted to control. The Belarusian “Black Cats” were full on members of the SS.

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It’s rather amusing that you are tossing in the folks who fought against Tito and Hoxha— two men who were very much not part of Moscow’s “bloc” for many years.
 
Anyways,

Seven Days to the River Rhine (apart from being a GREAT name for a movie!) was always am ambitious plan and not the only one in the Soviet arsenal. While technically possible, it relied on an awful lot going the Soviets way; a chain of events I don't think is particularly realistic.
 
Tigerace117 said:
The “Crusaders” were outright Nazi collaborators, the remnants of the incredibly vicious and vile Croatian fascist regime. Likewise, the Ukrainian insurgents were also full of collaborators and committed numerous atrocities against Poles in areas they wanted to control. The Belarusian “Black Cats” were full on members of the SS.

Micha& - Wikipedia

It’s rather amusing that you are tossing in the folks who fought against Tito and Hoxha— two men who were very much not part of Moscow’s “bloc” for many years.
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not true, but still very useful in attacking koba´s satanic hordes from behind, do you agree?
 
Jredbaron96 said:
WWII was when Soviet nationalism was at an all time high; it would have been a very hard sell and I don't think it's realistic to believe they would have.
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its a myth and stalinist propaganda, ussr has collapsed in 1941 , the majority ´d see USA solders as liberators from hunger , "russians" and Marxism
 
Litwin said:
not true, but still very useful in attacking koba´s satanic hordes from behind, do you agree?
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“ Meanwhile, special units (SS-Jagdverbände) of local collaborationists were trained by the Germans to infiltrate the Soviet rear. They were trained in Dahlwitz near Berlin by SS-Standartenführer Otto Skorzeny.[7] The paratroopers came from Reichskommissariat Ostland; and were split into commandos based on the country of origin. As part of the Nazi effort to combat the growing Soviet partisan movement in Belarus during the war, some thirty Belarusians from the espionage and sabotage outfit known as "Čorny Kot" (Black Cat) led by Michał Vituška age 37, were airdropped by the Luftwaffe in late 1944 behind the lines of the Red Army. At that time, the German forces had been expelled from the present-day Belarus during Operation Bagration.
Black Cats experienced some initial successes due to disorganization in the rear of the Red Army. Other German-trained Belarusian nationalist units also slipped through the Białowieża Forest in 1945.[8] Vituška became the coordination centre leader of the anti-soviet resistance partisan movement in Belarus. However, the NKVD secret police informants infiltrated these units. As the result, they were ambushed and killed in short order.[9] At the beginning of the 1950s most of the leaders of the resistance movement had to escape to the West. Vituška fled to Western Europe.”

They were SS thugs.

And no, they weren’t particularly useful; Soviet counterintelligence had them throughly penetrated, to the point where they were utterly unable to accomplish anything of worth. They did manage to get a number of western agents killed during the early days of the Cold War, so that’s....something :roll:
 
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