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The science says

What "medical science"; the libertarian version? This, from the British Society for Immunology (non-government), and the oldest immunology society in the world, and the largest in Europe:
 
You do know you have to get the disease in order to get natural immunity.

A rather stupid defense plan.

And ask the first guy to dies from Omicron. Oh wait. His natural immunity failed him.
 
You do know you have to get the disease in order to get natural immunity.

A rather stupid defense plan.

And ask the first guy to dies from Omicron. Oh wait. His natural immunity failed him.
Natural immunity from covid is much better and lasts much longer than immunity from covid vaccines. Omicron is at worst a few days of cold symptoms, for MOST who get it. And everyone will get covid anyway. Most already have.
 
Natural immunity from covid is much better and lasts much longer than immunity from covid vaccines. Omicron is at worst a few days of cold symptoms, for MOST who get it. And everyone will get covid anyway. Most already have.

You keep stating this as if repeating a religious mantra.

And the first guy who died of Omicron would disagree if he could.
 
Natural immunity from covid is much better and lasts much longer than immunity from covid vaccines. Omicron is at worst a few days of cold symptoms, for MOST who get it. And everyone will get covid anyway. Most already have.
On what basis do you claim most people have had covid? I didn't get it yet and I'm fully vaxxed. And it is stupid to get infected from a potentially deadly virus just for the purpose of immunity, when a vaccine is safer and had the same immunological effect.
 
You do know you have to get the disease in order to get natural immunity.

A rather stupid defense plan.

And ask the first guy to dies from Omicron. Oh wait. His natural immunity failed him.
I simply corrected some misinformation. I realize you don't like it.
 

Everything is potentially deadly. The potential for covid to be deadly for reasonably healthy people is VERY LOW. And yes, most have already had it, although the exact number can't be known. Often there are very mild symptoms or none at all.
 
Everything is potentially deadly. The potential for covid to be deadly for reasonably healthy people is VERY LOW. And yes, most have already had it, although the exact number can't be known. Often there are very mild symptoms or none at all.
If you don't have numbers to show, how can you claim most people have had it? You cannot. Therefore your claim is a lie!
 
Natural immunity from covid is much better and lasts much longer than immunity from covid vaccines. Omicron is at worst a few days of cold symptoms, for MOST who get it. And everyone will get covid anyway. Most already have.
No, stop lying! This, from a non-government organisation with no ties to Big Pharma (your nemesis), and the oldest such society in the world:
And naturally you will dismiss it out of hand because it doesn't meet your conspiracy theory requirements.
 
Natural immunity from covid is much better and lasts much longer than immunity from covid vaccines. Omicron is at worst a few days of cold symptoms, for MOST who get it. And everyone will get covid anyway. Most already have.
Did you get Covid? No? Good thing you got vaccinated then!
 
Did you get Covid? No? Good thing you got vaccinated then!
I got covid and I got vaccines. Unfortunately I didn't know as much then about the vaccines as I know now.
 
I got covid and I got vaccines. Unfortunately I didn't know as much then about the vaccines as I know now.
You 'know' as much as your absurd conspiracy theories allow. You are allergic to the truth because everything in your world is either nefarious, suspicious or an underhand government plot of some imagined kind. That isn't a healthy way to live.
 
I got covid and I got vaccines. Unfortunately I didn't know as much then about the vaccines as I know now.
No, you didn't get Covid. You told the forum that. Furthermore you told the forum that after vaccination you got sick, and concluded it was a reaction to the vaccine. Of course you also told us that no doctor had confirmed any link. That pretty much sums-up your approach to vaccines; confirmation bias.
 
Natural immunity from covid is much better and lasts much longer than immunity from covid vaccines. Omicron is at worst a few days of cold symptoms, for MOST who get it. And everyone will get covid anyway. Most already have.
Well,,, other than you risk death, and or long term health problems by having a severe or repeated infections from covid.
Most of my unvaccinated patients that have not died from covid... are getting repeat infections that are often WORSE than their first infection. In fact some have died from omicron.

You should stop posting anti vaxx nonsense.
 
Well that's great statistics you posted here. Have you bothered to keep track of how many unvaccinated vs vaccinated patients get repeat infections? From what I heard, the vaccinated are AT LEAST as likely to get repeat infections, maybe more likely.
 
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Well that's great statistics you posted here. Have you bothered to keep track of how many unvaccinated vs vaccinated patients get repeat infections? From what I heard, the vaccinated are AT LEAST as likely to get repeat infections, maybe more likely.
You seem under the erroneous impression that vaccines prevent one from being infected?
 
Well that's great statistics you posted here. Have you bothered to keep track of how many unvaccinated vs vaccinated patients get repeat infections? From what I heard, the vaccinated are AT LEAST as likely to get repeat infections, maybe more likely.
Stop:
In today’s MMWR, a study of COVID-19 infections in Kentucky among people who were previously infected with SAR-CoV-2 shows that unvaccinated individuals are more than twice as likely to be reinfected with COVID-19 than those who were fully vaccinated after initially contracting the virus. These data further indicate that COVID-19 vaccines offer better protection than natural immunity alone and that vaccines, even after prior infection, help prevent reinfections.

“If you decide you’re just going to trust that natural immunity is going to protect you, you’re more than twice as likely to get infected as those people who decide to get vaccinated,” said Daniel Griffin, chief of infectious disease at healthcare provider network ProHealth New York, who wasn’t involved in the study.
 
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You seem under the erroneous impression that vaccines prevent one from being infected?
Ok, so these mRNA vaccines were never supposed to prevent infection. So how come we were told they would prevent infection and end the pandemic, as long as enough people got them? How come we were told the unvaccinated were guilty of prolonging the pandemic?
We are still being told the vaccines lessen the symptoms when you get the infection. Maybe that's true -- but since we know some of what we were told is not true, who knows?
So is the whole point of the covid vaccines to dull the immune response to a covid infection? That means less severe symptoms. But maybe it has little or no value in helping our bodies fight the virus, or in ending the pandemic.
Is the pandemic ending because of the vaccines, or just because the newer variants are less dangerous? I guess no one can really answer that.
 
Ok, so these mRNA vaccines were never supposed to prevent infection.
Vaccines in general do not prevent infection.
So how come we were told they would prevent infection and end the pandemic, as long as enough people got them?
THey were speaking of herd immunity.
How come we were told the unvaccinated were guilty of prolonging the pandemic?
Because they are! Common sense really.
We are still being told the vaccines lessen the symptoms when you get the infection. Maybe that's true -- but since we know some of what we were told is not true, who knows?
If one is vaccinated and the immune system is primed, then it's also common sense an infection will not likely cause as severe symptoms or last as long as infection if unvaccinated. Again, common sense.
Do you even understand how vaccines work? Because the first part of that statement alone demonstrates either a profound ignorance or misunderstanding of vaccination.
 
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