The Resurgence of TB in America (1 Viewer)

[Fenton]

In 2016, TB rose in America for the first time in 23 years with 29 States including the District of Columbia reporting increases in TB cases

https://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/factsheets/statistics/tbtrends.htm

Foreign born individuals represented the majority of the reported TB cases accounting for 68 % of reported TB cases in 2017..
Refugee populations already resettled in the US had disporortionately high rates of latent TB that ranged from 18% in Arizona to 46 % in San Diego.
US Children born to foreign born parents were 6 times more likely to have TB than US born chilldren and foregn born children were 32 times more likely to have TB than US Born chilldren.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5135007/
The CDC has no data on latent TB cases among illegal Immigrants because they're not evaluated before entering the Country. 80% of active TB cases in the US were attributed to individuals carrying latent TB

 

[Cardinal]

In 2016, TB rose in America for the first time in 23 years with 29 States including the District of Columbia reporting increases in TB cases

https://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/factsheets/statistics/tbtrends.htm

Foreign born individuals represented the majority of the reported TB cases accounting for 68 % of reported TB cases in 2017..
Refugee populations already resettled in the US had disporortionately high rates of latent TB that ranged from 18% in Arizona to 46 % in San Diego.
US Children born to foreign born parents were 6 times more likely to have TB than US born chilldren and foregn born children were 32 times more likely to have TB than US Born chilldren.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5135007/
The CDC has no data on latent TB cases among illegal Immigrants because they're not evaluated before entering the Country. 80% of active TB cases in the US were attributed to individuals carrying latent TB

Four years after the United States pledged to help the world fight infectious-disease epidemics such as Ebola, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is dramatically downsizing its epidemic prevention activities in 39 out of 49 countries because money is running out, U.S. government officials said.

The CDC programs, part of a global health security initiative, train front-line workers in outbreak detection and work to strengthen laboratory and emergency response systems in countries where disease risks are greatest. The goal is to stop future outbreaks at their source.

Most of the funding comes from a one-time, five-year emergency package that Congress approved to respond to the 2014 Ebola epidemic in West Africa. About $600 million was awarded to the CDC to help countries prevent infectious-disease threats from becoming epidemics. That money is slated to run out by September 2019. Despite statements from President Trump and senior administration officials affirming the importance of controlling outbreaks, officials and global infectious-disease experts are not anticipating that the administration will budget additional resources.

Two weeks ago, the CDC began notifying staffers and officials abroad about its plan to downsize these activities, because officials assume there will be “no new resources,” said a senior government official speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss budget matters. Notice is being given now to CDC country directors “as the very first phase of a transition,” the official said. There is a need for “forward planning,” the official said, to accommodate longer advance notice for staffers and for leases and property agreements. The downsizing decision was first reported by the Wall Street Journal.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...utbreak/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ecc49dc8d9a8

Will Trump work to keep the CDC adequately funded so it can help control outbreaks? My money is on "not likely."

 

[Rexedgar]

Any reports of Leprosy?

 

[Fenton]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...utbreak/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ecc49dc8d9a8

Will Trump work to keep the CDC adequately funded so it can help control outbreaks? My money is on "not likely."

Foreign born individuals represented 66% of the known active cases of TB in 2011, so this was an issue long before Trump entered into office

The majority of active cases of TB in the US started as latent cases. Carriers of latent TB don't exibit symptoms and many don't know now they have it until it progresses into active TB

Obama's catch and release program allowed unvetted Immigrant's into the US and when you consider the sheer number of illegal immigrants it's no wonder why we're seeing a resurgence of these deadly diseases

If the Trump administration even suggested that we start testing foreign born individuals, the MSM and the Democrats would call him a " racist "

 

[Cardinal]

Foreign born individuals represented 66% of the known active cases of TB in 2011, so this was an issue long before Trump entered into office

The majority of active cases of TB in the US started as latent cases. Carriers of latent TB don't exibit symptoms and many don't know now they have it until it progresses into active TB

Obama's catch and release program allowed unvetted Immigrant's into the US and when you consider the sheer number of illegal immigrants it's no wonder why we're seeing a resurgence of these deadly diseases

If the Trump administration even suggested that we start testing foreign born individuals, the MSM and the Democrats would call him a " racist "

I never suggested that contagious diseases didn't exist before Trump, else the CDC wouldn't have existed before Trump. Do you think Trump should work to keep CDC properly funded before they run out of money?

 

[brothern]

In 2016, TB rose in America for the first time in 23 years with 29 States including the District of Columbia reporting increases in TB cases

Your first link shows updated 2017 stats, which demonstrated a decline from both 2016 and 2015.

 

[Moon]

My wife tested positive for TB when we got married. We were told some countries use a live virus vaccine which causes positive results for the rest of their lives. She was treated for a year and declared to be free of TB, though she would still test positive for it today.

 

[Fenton]

I never suggested that contagious diseases didn't exist before Trump, else the CDC wouldn't have existed before Trump. Do you think Trump should work to keep CDC properly funded before they run out of money?

The CDC is doing their jobs, which is working with local Governments to track known cases of TB and promote preparedness and prevention initiaves

The actual testing would be done at a local level, and good luck with getting people that are asymptomatic to show up for free TB test

Trump has done more to address this issue than Obama ever did by trying to secure our borders and stop the influx of illegal immigrants that carry latent TB into the US.

You people attack Trump for it, so don't pretend you give a rats ass about the resurgence of a disease, that according to the World Health Organization in 2015 surpassed AIDS as the most deadliest infectious disease in the world.

 

[Cardinal]

The CDC is doing their jobs, which is working with local Governments to track known cases of TB and promote preparedness and prevention initiaves

The actual testing would be done at a local level, and good luck with getting people that are asymptomatic to show up for free TB test

Trump has done more to address this issue than Obama ever did by trying to secure our borders and stop the influx of illegal immigrants that carry latent TB into the US.

You people attack Trump for it, so don't pretend you give a rats ass about the resurgence of a disease, that according to the World Health Organization in 2015 surpassed AIDS as the most deadliest infectious disease in the world.

Yes, the CDC is doing the best job they can with the funding they have, which is due to run out in 2019. Do you think Trump will work to keep them adequately funded, or do you think he will allow the CDC to continue cutting manpower?

 

[Grand Mal]

Yes, the CDC is doing the best job they can with the funding they have, which is due to run out in 2019. Do you think Trump will work to keep them adequately funded, or do you think he will allow the CDC to continue cutting manpower?

Three.
Third time's a charm? Nah, it's just going to be another dodge, my guess.

 

[Grand Mal]

In 2016, TB rose in America for the first time in 23 years with 29 States including the District of Columbia reporting increases in TB cases

https://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/factsheets/statistics/tbtrends.htm

Foreign born individuals represented the majority of the reported TB cases accounting for 68 % of reported TB cases in 2017..
Refugee populations already resettled in the US had disporortionately high rates of latent TB that ranged from 18% in Arizona to 46 % in San Diego.
US Children born to foreign born parents were 6 times more likely to have TB than US born chilldren and foregn born children were 32 times more likely to have TB than US Born chilldren.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5135007/
The CDC has no data on latent TB cases among illegal Immigrants because they're not evaluated before entering the Country. 80% of active TB cases in the US were attributed to individuals carrying latent TB

Sounds like you need to innoculate people more.
Actually, though, the US has such a low rate of TB it seems like a quibble. Seems like something someone would pile onto a list with other reasons to not allow any immigration. Is that why you brought up such an obscure nothingburger? To make people afraid of immigration?

 

[Fenton]

Your first link shows updated 2017 stats, which demonstrated a decline from both 2016 and 2015.

19 States including Texas, Florida, California and New York saw increases in reported TB cases in 2017. NY saw a 10% increase and it was the first increase in 23 years.

There also have been multiple TB outbreaks in Schools accross Texas, California and Florida this year and the CDC has llittle to no data on latent TB.

In 2015 the world health organization declared that TB surpassed HIV as the world's deadliest infectious disease with a quarter of the world's population infected with latent TB

The USs response for the last 10 years to this growing crisis has been to flood this Nation with as many immigrants both legal and illegal from Nations with high TB burdens as possible. Or knowingly allow in refugees that have disporortionate rates of latent TB which is as high as 43% in Tarrant County.

Why ? Because the Democrats need voters and big business needs cheap labor.

It is sheer lunacy. The CDC has no idea how many foreign born individuals are walking around with latent TB and latent TB is responsible for over 80% of all active TB cases in the US

Can TB be treated ? Treatment for latent TB is a minimum of 3 months of potentially toxic TB medications and treatment for active TB can be as long as 15 months and extends into 2 years for drug resistant forms of the disease, which are also on the rise.

Many people don't continue on with treatment for active TB due to the side effects of the medications and 45% of people who aren't treated with TB die from it.

There isn't even an effective vaccine for TB.

TB has become such a public health threat, some school districts are asking for proof of a negative TB test from foreign born students as a condition of enrollment and mandatory TB test if that student travels back to his County for any reason

Fairfax County in Virginia is one of them. This narrative that it's hard to catch is bull ****. A quarter of the world's population is estimated to be carrying latent TB, it's not hard to catch.
It's airborne and as contagious as the flu or the common cold

The treatment regimen isn't even a guarantee. You might spend months taking potentially toxic liver killing medications and still have latent TB in the end.

Carriers of latent TB are walking talking time bombs, and there's more in this Country now than ever before.

 

[Fenton]

Sounds like you need to innoculate people more.
Actually, though, the US has such a low rate of TB it seems like a quibble. Seems like something someone would pile onto a list with other reasons to not allow any immigration. Is that why you brought up such an obscure nothingburger? To make people afraid of immigration?

That would be great, but there is no effective vaccination for TB, especially among adults.
https://medicine.wustl.edu/news/study-helps-explain-tuberculosis-vaccines-ineffective/

 

[Thoreau72]

In 2016, TB rose in America for the first time in 23 years with 29 States including the District of Columbia reporting increases in TB cases

https://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/factsheets/statistics/tbtrends.htm

Foreign born individuals represented the majority of the reported TB cases accounting for 68 % of reported TB cases in 2017..
Refugee populations already resettled in the US had disporortionately high rates of latent TB that ranged from 18% in Arizona to 46 % in San Diego.
US Children born to foreign born parents were 6 times more likely to have TB than US born chilldren and foregn born children were 32 times more likely to have TB than US Born chilldren.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5135007/
The CDC has no data on latent TB cases among illegal Immigrants because they're not evaluated before entering the Country. 80% of active TB cases in the US were attributed to individuals carrying latent TB

One might argue that these facts offer good reason to let them all in and inoculate or treat them, for the benefit of Public Health.

 

[brothern]

Carriers of latent TB are walking talking time bombs, and there's more in this Country now than ever before.

I'm thrilled that you have interest in infectious diseases and eradication programs. I do too.

However the fact of the matter is that TB is not a massive top priority for eradication within the United States. Like you've indicated, latent TB infections are incredibly common and affect billions of people worldwide. In the USA that is foreign-born populations, certainly, but it is also older generations and those who travel (like me). It is similar to how 10-15% of American-born Baby Boomers (1945-65) have Hepatitis C, but do not know that they do.

Meaning it would be dumb to screen immigrants for TB; just in the same as it would be crazy to screen immigrants for Hepatitis C. These latent infections are very common, and there's little pay-off in spending gobs of money trying to find and eliminate latent cases ... especially when potentially up to 10% Americans already have the infections.

On the other hand WHO does label TB infections as a grave threat, because of the impact that TB has on countries with poor health infrastructures. That is primarily central African and East/Central Asian nations. TB does not pose a threat to our health systems, because we have the capacity and drug availability to handle active TB cases. (Rather the threat that we have to face is where latent TB converts in populations with compromised immune systems (elderly, HIV+, etc.))

Carriers of latent TB are walking talking time bombs, and there's more in this Country now than ever before.

There were far more latent TB and active TB cases in the 50s-70s when modern diagnostics and treatments were not available.
Look at your links.

Edit: And it's the flu (influenza virus) that is infectious disease with the largest impact on morbidity and financial costs in the United States. Not TB.

 

[Fenton]

One might argue that these facts offer good reason to let them all in and inoculate or treat them, for the benefit of Public Health.

There is no such thing as a effective TB inoculation or vaccine.

 

[calamity]

In 2016, TB rose in America for the first time in 23 years with 29 States including the District of Columbia reporting increases in TB cases

https://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/factsheets/statistics/tbtrends.htm

Foreign born individuals represented the majority of the reported TB cases accounting for 68 % of reported TB cases in 2017..
Refugee populations already resettled in the US had disporortionately high rates of latent TB that ranged from 18% in Arizona to 46 % in San Diego.
US Children born to foreign born parents were 6 times more likely to have TB than US born chilldren and foregn born children were 32 times more likely to have TB than US Born chilldren.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5135007/
The CDC has no data on latent TB cases among illegal Immigrants because they're not evaluated before entering the Country. 80% of active TB cases in the US were attributed to individuals carrying latent TB

I smell another "caravan moment" coming on.

 

[Fenton]

I'm thrilled that you have interest in infectious diseases and eradication programs. I do too.

However the fact of the matter is that TB is not a massive top priority for eradication within the United States. Like you've indicated, latent TB infections are incredibly common and affect billions of people worldwide. In the USA that is foreign-born populations, certainly, but it is also older generations and those who travel (like me). It is similar to how 10-15% of American-born Baby Boomers (1945-65) have Hepatitis C, but do not know that they do.

Meaning it would be dumb to screen immigrants for TB; just in the same as it would be crazy to screen immigrants for Hepatitis C. These latent infections are very common, and there's little pay-off in spending gobs of money trying to find and eliminate latent cases ... especially when potentially up to 10% Americans already have the infections.

On the other hand WHO does label TB infections as a grave threat, because of the impact that TB has on countries with poor health infrastructures. That is primarily central African and East/Central Asian nations. TB does not pose a threat to our health systems, because we have the capacity and drug availability to handle active TB cases. (Rather the threat that we have to face is where latent TB converts in populations with compromised immune systems (elderly, HIV+, etc.))



There were far more latent TB and active TB cases in the 50s-70s when modern diagnostics and treatments were not available.
Look at your links.

Edit: And it's the flu (influenza virus) that is infectious disease with the largest impact on morbidity and financial costs in the United States. Not TB.

Here's a link to Fairfax County ISDs 2018 enrollment requirements.
https://www.fcps.edu/registration/general-registration-requirements

School districts are implementing mandatory TB screening requirements of foreign born students from 22 different Countries with high TB burdens as a condition of enrollment, and it applies to students who travel back to their home Countries and then return to the US.
So don't tell me its not a priority, or this threat isn't being taken seriously.

Last year the World's Health Organization called the growing spread of drug resistant strains of TB a Global Emergency and in 2015 claimed TB surpassed AIDS as the worlds deadliest infectious disease

The Lefts response to that is to call for open borders and more refugees. Unbelievable.
They put their agenda and ideology over public safety, and over the safety of both foreign born and US born individuals in the US who aren't TB carriers.

 

[Thoreau72]

There is no such thing as a effective TB inoculation or vaccine.

On a practical level I think you're generally correct, but there is this. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/tb/index.html

 

[Fenton]

On a practical level I think you're generally correct, but there is this. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/tb/index.html

That vaccine is only given to babies who are already at risk for contracting TB and it's effectiveness is 50/50 at best.
It's NOT given to children in the US, and it's not effective at all in adults.
A lot of people in the US think they've been vaccinated for TB, but they haven't.
So we have a resurgence of a deadly and contagious disease in the US. A disease with no effective vaccine and it's making it into Schools accross the Nation

Unfortunately, public health is being superceded by politics