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The Republican News Channel

SixStringHero said:
Um, isn't wikipedia's information user modified?

It''ll be good in a couple days, wikipedia is alright except in the current situation IE an argument on the internet try another I got University E-libraries now but I can't copy/paste to this site. Any want a copy of a maganzine that they missed just ask I'll send it to a hotmail web address of your choosing.
 
It should be stated that although Fox News have more regular viewers, more people tune into CNN casually to be informed about current events. Fox viewers are split between conservative and liberal ideologues who watch only to be infuriated or comforted.

My advice to the left; stop watching Fox as a source of entertainment (kind of like watching David Brents little dance ) and you will see it fade away.

I guess it would be fueling the fire to bring up Chomsky and Hermans Propaganda model in a venue like this so I won't.
 
freethought6t9 said:
I guess it would be fueling the fire to bring up Chomsky and Hermans Propaganda model in a venue like this so I won't.

To late you already did, Chomsky commenting against propaganda is like Hitler commenting against genocide. Tell Chomsky to go kiss Pol-Pots *** some more.
 
Trajan Octavian Titus said:
Mach said:
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Let's find out what these so called "misperceptions" are.


If I recall right, they were that...

1) Fox viewers repeatedly believed we had found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

2) That Iraq and Al-Qaida were closely allied.

3) I don't recall.
 
One reason, in my opinion, that FOX enjoys such high ratings is that their base is not spread as thin.

30 some odd percent of our population are the type that needs to hear the news such as FOX presents it. The other 60 plus percent of the viewers are spread out amongst multiple other networks.

If there was only ONE network, such as FOX, that catered to the center to left portion of television viewers, I submit that FOX would be left in the dust ratings wise.

For example, by comparison, in my town there are hundreds of taverns for straight people. But there are only a handful of gay bars. And even though the gays make up a minority of the population, their bars are always packed wall to wall.

I hope that made sense to everyone.
 
Captain America said:
One reason, in my opinion, that FOX enjoys such high ratings is that their base is not spread as thin.

30 some odd percent of our population are the type that needs to hear the news such as FOX presents it. The other 60 plus percent of the viewers are spread out amongst multiple other networks.

If there was only ONE network, such as FOX, that catered to the center to left portion of television viewers, I submit that FOX would be left in the dust ratings wise.

For example, by comparison, in my town there are hundreds of taverns for straight people. But there are only a handful of gay bars. And even though the gays make up a minority of the population, their bars are always packed wall to wall.

I hope that made sense to everyone.
Here's a little light reading for you....
http://mason.gmu.edu/~atabarro/MediaBias.doc
 
GySgt said:
I thought it was hilarious. I loved how they refrained from asking the correct questions. But in defense of the scripted show, the reporter and commentator probably didn't know the right questions to ask anyway.

But let's all sit back and enjoy our pathetic politicians and media force wreck each other. This is about the time we'll see CNN specials bashing every effort and FOX praising every effort. We'll see every trivial event paraded around for us to scoff at and be entertained. Our politicians will forsake everything important for the simplest vote and then thank America by bickering over everything after they get it.

In the mean time, the "insignificant, poor, and hapless victim of American imperialism" troop abroad will be more focused on the bullets and IED blasts and this "War on Terror" as our nation rips itself apart over partisan slavery and naive ignorance. All of who exploit the troop on every level.
Could agree more Gunny.
Ooh-Rah and Semper Fi brother. I was one of the "insignificant, poor troops" that actually participated in the actual war on terror, rather than the media/partisan war happening in this country.
 
WI Crippler said:
Could agree more Gunny.
Ooh-Rah and Semper Fi brother. I was one of the "insignificant, poor troops" that actually participated in the actual war on terror, rather than the media/partisan war happening in this country.


God Bless you and thank you for your service my friend...........Looking forward to your input...........:2wave:
 
Captain America said:
One reason, in my opinion, that FOX enjoys such high ratings is that their base is not spread as thin.

30 some odd percent of our population are the type that needs to hear the news such as FOX presents it. The other 60 plus percent of the viewers are spread out amongst multiple other networks.

If there was only ONE network, such as FOX, that catered to the center to left portion of television viewers, I submit that FOX would be left in the dust ratings wise.

For example, by comparison, in my town there are hundreds of taverns for straight people. But there are only a handful of gay bars. And even though the gays make up a minority of the population, their bars are always packed wall to wall.

I hope that made sense to everyone.

The only thing I gained from this is, you can't seem to find a good seat at the gay bar.;)

This scenario would only make sense if there were not other cable news programs that didn't lean in the other direction, and there certainly are. Fox is successful because they are talking to their audience, not down to them, as has been the case for far too long. Fox gets so much attention, and especially negative attention, because they are so much different from the norm, and that has some confused, some angry, and some very concerned. Fox has an excellent record for being honest, fair, and balanced, and I would challenge anyone to find an example of any dishonesty in their news reporting.

The problem is with their opinion pieces, hence the rage shown Shawn Hannity, folks on the left just are not used to that on the cable news channel, and this scares the hell out of them for some reason. I never heard a peep about the show on CNN for which the Fox news channel modeled Hannity and Colmes, Crossfire. So I don't see the problem with this program, other then it's on Fox, and many are out to smear their good name?
 
The only thing I gained from this is, you can't seem to find a good seat at the gay bar.
:rofl

Fox has an excellent record for being honest, fair, and balanced,
:rofl

Thanks Dee. I appreciate the humor. I can always count on you for a good laugh.

Keep the faith. ;)
 
Captain America said:
:rofl

:rofl

Thanks Dee. I appreciate the humor. I can always count on you for a good laugh.

Keep the faith. ;)

It's my pleasure;) , but you still seem suspicious, have you an instance of where Fox was not all of these things in their news programming? Now I said their news, not opinion shows, not their guests, and not their own personal bias away from the set? They have never been dishonest in their news, but please, if you have an example, share it with me?
 
Deegan said:
It's my pleasure;) , but you still seem suspicious, have you an instance of where Fox was not all of these things in their news programming? Now I said their news, not opinion shows, not their guests, and not their own personal bias away from the set? They have never been dishonest in their news, but please, if you have an example, share it with me?

Good point bro. I suppose it's easy to get a network titled "FOXNews" confused with a network that actually is about news. Truly, I have no qualms with the news potion of their network I suppose. Actually, I can't think of any portion of their network that is actually news now that you mention it. That is not to say there isn't.

I refer to pundits like O'Reilly and his sort of ilk on FOXNews who present their shows as if they were actually "news."

I admit that I do not watch FOX as much as some do so I must conceed to your point. I am certain you tune into FOX more than I do and have a better idea as to what actually goes on there. I can only stomach so much you know.

All I recall from watching FOX is coming away thinking, "This is DEFINITELY a Republican news channel.":roll:
 
Captain America said:
I refer to pundits like O'Reilly and his sort of ilk on FOXNews who present their shows as if they were actually "news."

you can tell that you do not watch fox
O'Reilly clearly states many times that he is a news Analyst and Commentator
he is not a reporter
 
Captain America said:
All I recall from watching FOX is coming away thinking, "This is DEFINITELY a Republican news channel.":roll:

***Sorry to see that you haven't spent more time listening to the only news that doesn't get a liberal slant to it; that being of course, Fox News station. Oh, excuse me...almost forget that Fox employs Alan Commie...sitting next to Hannity. Just think how much your IQ will rise by watching and listening to the Fox channel. You could even get educated on military manuevers/missions by watching War Stories on Fox every Sunday night--hosted by Ollie North. There is just a plethora of savvy political rhetoric and timely news stories on Fox 24/7. Come on, get with it!
 
Well, I did it folks. I finally watched the actual "news" portion on FOX. I didn't really see any punditry slant to it at all. Certainly no more than any other channel.

I think I might have made my error in judging too quickly the news portion of FOX due to the other shows on that channel which, no doubt we can all pretty much agree, is designed to appease the rightwing GOP kinda people.

It just seems to me, and I could be mistaken, that the actual "news" programming there, timewise, in minimal compared to all the rest of the time they spend on rightwing GOP propaganda.

But you guys were right. The little time they do actually devote to "the news" was pretty much just "the news."

I think, and again this is just my opinion, if they really wanted to gain more credibility regarding their claim to be "fair and balanced" they should make more of an effort to differentiate between their propaganda shows and their actual news. I mean, even when you watch Bill O'Reilly, it has "FOXNews" icon in the lower lefthand part of the screen. And, as you guys pointed out before, O'Reilly is NOT the news. It's propaganda. Republican propaganda.

So, I still am of the opinion that FOX is, in fact, The Republican News Channel......except for their actual news......which is only a fraction of their actual programming.
 
Captain America said:
Well, I did it folks. I finally watched the actual "news" portion on FOX. I didn't really see any punditry slant to it at all. Certainly no more than any other channel.

I think I might have made my error in judging too quickly the news portion of FOX due to the other shows on that channel which, no doubt we can all pretty much agree, is designed to appease the rightwing GOP kinda people.

It just seems to me, and I could be mistaken, that the actual "news" programming there, timewise, in minimal compared to all the rest of the time they spend on rightwing GOP propaganda.

But you guys were right. The little time they do actually devote to "the news" was pretty much just "the news."

I think, and again this is just my opinion, if they really wanted to gain more credibility regarding their claim to be "fair and balanced" they should make more of an effort to differentiate between their propaganda shows and their actual news. I mean, even when you watch Bill O'Reilly, it has "FOXNews" icon in the lower lefthand part of the screen. And, as you guys pointed out before, O'Reilly is NOT the news. It's propaganda. Republican propaganda.

So, I still am of the opinion that FOX is, in fact, The Republican News Channel......except for their actual news......which is only a fraction of their actual programming.

Well atleast they don't mix their editorials with their news reporting like CNN, MSNBC, NYTs et al.
 
Captain America said:
After FOXNews ran their Rumsfeld propaganda piece "Why He Fights" infomercial is there ANY doubt in ANYBODY'S mind that FOX is just a Republican News Channel anymore?

Fair and Balanced...... :lamo :2rofll: :2funny: :rwbelepha
CNN ran a story with the same title.

But, I would point out that Fox is the only news station reporting on Senator Harry Reed's land deal with the mafia... go figure...
 
Captain America said:
Well, I did it folks. I finally watched the actual "news" portion on FOX. I didn't really see any punditry slant to it at all. Certainly no more than any other channel.

I think I might have made my error in judging too quickly the news portion of FOX due to the other shows on that channel which, no doubt we can all pretty much agree, is designed to appease the rightwing GOP kinda people.

It just seems to me, and I could be mistaken, that the actual "news" programming there, timewise, in minimal compared to all the rest of the time they spend on rightwing GOP propaganda.

But you guys were right. The little time they do actually devote to "the news" was pretty much just "the news."

I think, and again this is just my opinion, if they really wanted to gain more credibility regarding their claim to be "fair and balanced" they should make more of an effort to differentiate between their propaganda shows and their actual news. I mean, even when you watch Bill O'Reilly, it has "FOXNews" icon in the lower lefthand part of the screen. And, as you guys pointed out before, O'Reilly is NOT the news. It's propaganda. Republican propaganda.

So, I still am of the opinion that FOX is, in fact, The Republican News Channel......except for their actual news......which is only a fraction of their actual programming.

Well good for you, and see, your eyes didn't leap out of your head, lazers didn't shoot out of Brit Humes ***, and burn you alive, and Bill didn't come to your house to tell you to shut up.:lol:
 
Deegan said:
Well good for you, and see, your eyes didn't leap out of your head, lazers didn't shoot out of Brit Humes ***, and burn you alive, and Bill didn't come to your house to tell you to shut up.:lol:

Don't forget Bill also didn't come over your house and then scream at his techies to cut your mic while he screamed at you and gave you no opportunity to speak for yourself :lol:
 
But, I would point out that Fox is the only news station reporting on Senator Harry Reed's land deal with the mafia... go figure...

because there was no story.

But question to you Fox fanatics.. is Fox and Friends a "news show" or a an editorial?
 
PeteEU said:
because there was no story.

Ya Reid just committed a federal offense no big deal.

But question to you Fox fanatics.. is Fox and Friends a "news show" or a an editorial?

I always just considered it gay, I watch C-SPAN's Washington Journal in the mornings and on my weekdays off I then listen to Glenn Beck, then Rush, then Hannitty, then Savage, then I turn back on the t.v. to listen to O'reilly, then Hannity and Colmes, then the Daily Show, then the Colbert Report, then the second airiing of Keith Olberman. God I gotta kick the habit I'm a political junkie.
 
PeteEU said:
because there was no story.

But question to you Fox fanatics.. is Fox and Friends a "news show" or a an editorial?

fox and friends in the morning is impossible to watch. I don't mind Fox News in general, but its almost painful to watch the morning show. I only did so twice and went back to my other morning show. Sportscenter.
 
Trajan Octavian Titus said:
Ya Reid just committed a federal offense no big deal.



I always just considered it gay, I watch C-SPAN's Washington Journal in the mornings and on my weekdays off I then listen to Glenn Beck, then Rush, then Hannitty, then Savage, then I turn back on the t.v. to listen to O'reilly, then Hannity and Colmes, then the Daily Show, then the Colbert Report, then the second airiing of Keith Olberman. God I gotta kick the habit I'm a political junkie.

At least you take a break for an hour of good comedy :2razz:
 
Not asking if its impossible to watch or crap, asking if in the eyes of the right is a news show or just another "editoral" along the lines of Hanity and wuss or O'Rielly.

You see thats the crud of the whole debate. The anti Fox News people go after the whole station and all the programs because of the clear cut biased nature of everything thats on that channel. The pro Fox News people claim that the shows we all complain about are "editorials" or similar and hence not "news". If this is true then Fox News is an editorial station with small news bulletins once in a while, with most of that taken off the "wires". Hence how can Fox call its self a news channel if it hides behind "editorials"?

Is not the editoral stuff a reflection of the attitude and policy of a news organistaion? So when O'Rielly goes after gays and same sex marriage, he speaks for his station, when he uses missleading and wrong information to prove his points, then his methods and comments reflect the station and what they stand for...... else they would not have him on that station correct?
 
PeteEU said:
Is not the editoral stuff a reflection of the attitude and policy of a news organistaion? So when O'Rielly goes after gays and same sex marriage, he speaks for his station, when he uses missleading and wrong information to prove his points, then his methods and comments reflect the station and what they stand for...... else they would not have him on that station correct?

I could not have put it better myself. :bravo:
 
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