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How do we finish this war.


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tecoyah

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We are in a War against Radical Islam. This entails either figuring out who is, or may become Radical amongst the followers of Islam, and killing them. Or, attempting to come to some level of compromise between Christianity and Islam.

There really is no other final outcome I can see. So, I ask for your perspective on which direction we should go, unless you see something I do not.
 
tecoyah said:
We are in a War against Radical Islam. This entails either figuring out who is, or may become Radical amongst the followers of Islam, and killing them. Or, attempting to come to some level of compromise between Christianity and Islam.

There really is no other final outcome I can see. So, I ask for your perspective on which direction we should go, unless you see something I do not.

There is the option of trying to figure out why folks become radicals and whether we as a nation can do things that make them less likely to do that. If that is part of the compromise option, I vote for that.

The problem with option number one is that potentially every Muslim could potentially become a radical, so killing them would be entail genocide on a mass level, something I don't think is necessary and frankly can't stomach. I'd rather die in a terrorist attack than be responsible for that.
 
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tecoyah said:
We are in a War against Radical Islam. This entails either figuring out who is, or may become Radical amongst the followers of Islam, and killing them. Or, attempting to come to some level of compromise between Christianity and Islam.

There really is no other final outcome I can see. So, I ask for your perspective on which direction we should go, unless you see something I do not.
I don't believe in killing someone merely because they "may become Radical amongst the followers of Islam".
 
The only thing Radical Islamic scum will listen to is violence.
You would have better luck teaching a pig to fly then negotiate peace with them.
Some members of islam you might be able to reach others.........you wont.
 
cherokee said:
The only thing Radical Islamic scum will listen to is violence.
You would have better luck teaching a pig to fly then negotiate peace with them.
Some members of islam you might be able to reach others.........you wont.

Very good reason to not encourage more Muslims to become radicals.
 
It was politically expedient for Bush to call this a "war" but I would argue that it is not a war in the usual sense. There is no sovereign government with a uniformed military to approach with guns or diplomats. Accepting the false construct of "war" is what limits our thinking in potential responses to the threat.

Militant extremists from various nations are performing criminal acts, and "terror" is the means they have chosen. It is an international police/intelligence effort that is needed to identify extremist cells and end their operational ability.

We also *must* stop occupying sovereign nations, under the guise of the war on terror, because we are accomplishing nothing more than provoking people to take an extremist response.
 
tecoyah said:
We are in a War against Radical Islam. This entails either figuring out who is, or may become Radical amongst the followers of Islam, and killing them. Or, attempting to come to some level of compromise between Christianity and Islam.

There really is no other final outcome I can see. So, I ask for your perspective on which direction we should go, unless you see something I do not.
[Fundi Mode=[/B] ON ]
We don't. The radical Islamists will continue striving toward bringing about the apocalypse which will occur in order to bring back their god. This god is the anti-Christ, the beast which enslaves man with a mark.

It is the Beast, not man, who will end the war.....if only for 3.5 years....then it really hits the fan....
[Fundi Mode=[/B] OFF ]
 
Somewhere between the two. We should compromise when we can (Libya, Syria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia), and wage ruthless war without blinking an eye when we can't, assuming the benefits outweigh the costs (Iran, al-Qaeda, Hezbollah).
 
Thus far...I am very impressed with these responces...(save one)....it says much for the people who frequent this site.
 
tecoyah said:
Thus far...I am very impressed with these responces...(save one)....it says much for the people who frequent this site.

Well, now you can add my name to cherokees.

It's okay though. People like us are what will keep people like you from dying under Islam in the future.

We don't expect nor want your thanks.

We care about our children and their children. Not what bedwetters think.

And so do many others. That's why W. got reelected.
 
teacher said:
Well, now you can add my name to cherokees.

It's okay though. People like us are what will keep people like you from dying under Islam in the future.

We don't expect nor want your thanks.

We care about our children and their children. Not what bedwetters think.

And so do many others. That's why W. got reelected.

But not your vote? Living in the basement does not excuse you from bringing the noxious fumes to the surface.
 
Two things have to happen.

  1. A reformation, much like what happened to Christianity, has to take place.
  2. The price paid for engaging in terrorist activity must be greater than the gain.

We are in a clash of cultures. They value death and we value life.
 
Nexus said:
Two things have to happen.

  1. A reformation, much like what happened to Christianity, has to take place.
  2. The price paid for engaging in terrorist activity must be greater than the gain.

We are in a clash of cultures. They value death and we value life.

true-so we have to give them what they hold dear quicker than they can do it to us
 
teacher said:
Well, now you can add my name to cherokees.

It's okay though. People like us are what will keep people like you from dying under Islam in the future.

We don't expect nor want your thanks.

We care about our children and their children. Not what bedwetters think.

And so do many others. That's why W. got reelected.

As usual Teacher....you seem to think your opinion is important, rather than the pointless attempt at Humor it actually is. The "Save One" pointed to the rediculous, inspired God Talk...which had no place in a serious Poll.....much as yours holds a place of uselessness.
In the future please save your idiocy for the Wardenship you are so proud of...and place it in the depths. As much as I find your banter entertaining in those dark stone walls....they hold little appeal in the light of actual debate, and as this is a serious attempt to guage the temper of the membership....you do nothing but interupt useful discussion.

Still....thanks for playin'
 
The last enemy we faced that was as radical as modern day muslem facists was the imperial Japanese.

They at least had enough honor to use their tactics against military targets. Islam cant make the same claim. They are cowards that attack innocent civilians intentionally.

The Japanese however became tame little kittens after they were shown that "The price paid for engaging in terrorist activity was greater than the gain"

so Nexus has it spot on.

The problem is getting the weak kneed people in this country to understand this is what it will take to solve the problem.
 
Originally posted by tecoyah
As usual Teacher....you seem to think your opinion is important, rather than the pointless attempt at Humor it actually is. The "Save One" pointed to the rediculous, inspired God Talk...which had no place in a serious Poll.....much as yours holds a place of uselessness.
In the future please save your idiocy for the Wardenship you are so proud of...and place it in the depths. As much as I find your banter entertaining in those dark stone walls....they hold little appeal in the light of actual debate, and as this is a serious attempt to guage the temper of the membership....you do nothing but interupt useful discussion.

Still....thanks for playin'
If you don't think teacher can seriously debate, why don't you challenge him to one? I guarantee you will get something you didn't expect. I also guarantee you will get something you won't like!
 
Billo_Really said:
If you don't think teacher can seriously debate, why don't you challenge him to one? I guarantee you will get something you didn't expect. I also guarantee you will get something you won't like!

I believe I just did...and the fear is intense. Woe is me in my poor defenseless posture of submission. Bed him already Billo.....you're almost there as it is, and he seems willing.
 
Originally posted by tecoyah
I believe I just did...and the fear is intense. Woe is me in my poor defenseless posture of submission. Bed him already Billo.....you're almost there as it is, and he seems willing.
I'm almost where?
 
4 inches up his....uh....personal acceptance scale
 
Originally posted by tecoyah
4 inches up his....uh....personal acceptance scale
Never heard of it.
 
End of threadjack.....take it downstairs for more.



we now return to the actual poll....please continue.
 
tecoyah said:
As usual Teacher....you seem to think your opinion is important, rather than the pointless attempt at Humor it actually is.

Now I have a standard rant about those thinking they've done something when saying I have no sense-o-humor. But I've been playing with screen capture today, you know, getting better, quicker at yet another tool I use to mow down the pathetic, let's see how long this takes...

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Well, what can I say, what with people giving 31991 tries to see if I've got the humor right yet, I've got to keep attempting.

The "Save One" pointed to the rediculous, inspired God Talk...which had no place in a serious Poll.....much as yours holds a place of uselessness.

Get the fu*k over yourself.

In the future please save your idiocy for the Wardenship you are so proud of...

Wardenship, Monkey Army, Pyramids, swishing around in upstate NY, these things are worth being proud of.

Yea, Warden, YOU are NOT The Warden, are you?

and place it in the depths.

To bad YOU are not The Warden, and could enforce that.

As much as I find your banter entertaining in those dark stone walls....

Gosh...
they hold little appeal in the light of actual debate,
So, basically you're saying a joke gets you distacted? So with some noisy keys and a laser pointer I could steal your boyfriend?


and as this is a serious attempt to guage the temper of the membership....

And you don't now know what my take is? Or is it I did it with a flair that is beyond you?

you do nothing but interupt useful discussion.

Hey, tecoya, look, magic red light on the floor.

"So a Bruce, how long you been with tecoya?"

Still....thanks for playin'

No problem. I really hope you were too. Cause bro, if you weren't, get the fu*k over yourself.

Fish in a barrel.
 

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