paulmarkj
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Aryan Imperium said:No,you started this.You passed judgement on Irving`s work and yet you have never read a single book.Therefore I am forced to surmise that you lack any credibility when discussing Irving or any aspect of historical revisionism.
I have posted all the evidence that I need to on this thread on various aspects of the murder of German people by the allies,whether this be by carpet bombing during the war or massacres and atrocities carried out against men,women and children after the work,ethnic cleansings or planned starvation.The evidence is there,I have no intention of repeating myself just because you are too lazy to read it.
This thread was started by you, in which you support the idea that the bombing of Dresden was the 'Real German Holocaust'. You use Irving’s work to support this, yet Irving himself has changed his mind on two pertinent facts:
He has reduced his Dresden casualty numbers.
He was originally a holocaust denier, but has repented:
David Irving’s own words about Auschwitz said:"I've repented. I've no intention of repeating those views. That would be historically stupid and I am not a stupid man. I full accept this, it's a fact. The discussion on Auschwitz, the gas chambers and the holocaust is finished. It's useless to dispute it."
So, his whole idea of comparing Dresden to the holocaust has been destroyed by Irving, but there are still remnants of his old works that people still read and believe. The number of people killed at Dresden is either 50,000 to 100,000 if you believe Irving’s latest figures or 25,000 to 35,000 if you believe other historians.
He had made the mistake, as pointed out in the court summary, of exaggerating German casualties and reducing German culpability
Court summary: said:In his account of the bombing of Dresden Irving persistently exaggerates the number of casualties, so enabling him to make comparisons between the number of civilians killed in Allied bombing raids with the number of Jews killed in the camps.As for you personal insults: I read a newspaper article by Irving many years ago, and I believed it. It said that 250,000 people died in Dresden. He was then a respected historian. However, since then other historians questioned his data and (because I have an open mind) I was open to other ideas. And (because I am not lazy) I read their books and articles.
I simply will not read a book by an author who admits his works are wrong, not just in the examples I’ve given above, but in other cases at court.