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The real Che Guevara

Lefties who wear the t-shirt bearing his face, see themselves as carrying on the values of resistance to capitalist oppression and solidarity with the working class. In reality, the record shows Che was a totalitarian, mass murderer whose face does not belong on the T-shirts of college students who profess to love liberty.
 
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Due to Che’s own testimonials, and to his thoughts and his deeds. In April 1967, speaking from experience, he summed up his homicidal idea of justice in his “Message to the Tricontinental”: “hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective, and cold-blooded killing machine.” On January 28, 1957, already in the Sierra Maestra, he wrote to his wife: “Here in the Cuban jungle, alive and bloodthirsty.”
 
The “cold-blooded killing machine” did not show the full extent of his rigor until Castro put him in charge of La Cabaña prison. Guevara presided during the first half of 1959 over one of the darkest periods of the revolution. Javier Arzuaga, the Basque chaplain who gave comfort to those sentenced to die and personally witnessed dozens of executions, recalls that: “The revolutionary tribunal was made of militiamen. Che Guevara presided over the appellate court. He never overturned a sentence…. After I left in May, they executed many more, but I personally witnessed fifty-five executions.” Four hundred people were executed between January and the end of June in 1959, when Che ceased to be in charge of La Cabaña.
 
At the end of 1959, as head of the National Bank of Cuba and of the Department of Industry of the National Institute of Agrarian Reform, and in early 1961, as Minister of Industries, Che had a chance to put into practice his economic vision. The period that he was in charge of Cuban economy, saw the near-collapse of sugar production, the failure of industrialization, and the introduction of rationing. By 1963, the Castro regime accepted its role as a colonial provider of sugar to the Soviet bloc in exchange for oil to cover its needs and to re-sell to other countries. For the next three decades, Cuba would survive on a Soviet subsidy of around 80 billion.
 
Guevara's claim to fame was the role he played alongside Fidel and Raul Castro in installing a totalitarian communist regime in Cuba then attempting to spread this model using violent means in Africa and Latin America, to spread his toxic philosophy of political action that others seek to emulate. He embraced hatred and dehumanization of the other as the means to carry out what he called necessary actions.
 
A few years ago we stayed at a casa particulaire in Trinidad de Cuba hosted by a woman who would put her hand over her heart when she said, "Che!". But she was a black woman old enough to remember how it was for black women before the revolution.
 
A few years ago we stayed at a casa particulaire in Trinidad de Cuba hosted by a woman who would put her hand over her heart when she said, "Che!". But she was a black woman old enough to remember how it was for black women before the revolution.
Che’s racism becomes evident in these comments in his travel diary: “The blacks, those magnificent examples of the African race who have maintained their racial purity thanks to their lack of an affinity with bathing, have seen their territory invaded by a new kind of slave: the Portuguese. The contempt and poverty unites them in the daily struggle, but the different way of dealing with life separates them completely; the black is indolent and a dreamer; spending his meager wage on frivolity or drink; the European has a tradition of work and saving, which has pursued him as far as this corner of America and drives him to advance himself, even independently of his own individual aspirations.”
 
Che became a pop culture icon, the patron saint of progressives who wear his picture. Among them, he became a symbol of countercultural rebellion against capitalism. But in an ironic twist of history, Che owes his posthumous pop culture success to old-fashioned property rights.
 
Probably the greatest success story of US Special Forces was the tracking and extermination of this psychotic butcher along with their Bolivian army allies.
 
Probably the greatest success story of US Special Forces was the tracking and extermination of this psychotic butcher along with their Bolivian army allies.
What can you expect from a communist like Che Guevara. He was a murdered that had no personal courage. Justice eventually caught up to Che Guevara, but not before he murdered hundreds of innocent Cubans.
 
The statement about Guevara and courage is idiotic. Guevara can be very criticized as a murderer, but there's a point to understanding him more as well. He was radicalized when he travelled South America and saw great poverty, and when he was working in a hospital in Guatemala in 1954 when the US overthrew the government.

 
So, the people he helped to free in Cuba don’t live in poverty? That’s pure BS. Aside from the elite communists running the country every one else lives in poverty. That’s what communism is good for. Except for the few everyone else lives like a dog hoping for a scrap and are brainwashed into believing they’re toiling for a better future.
 
So, the people he helped to free in Cuba don’t live in poverty?

I didn't say that. Don't misrepresent people's posts.


The system is bad under Castro. It was worse under Batista, most felt. The US makes it a lot worse with an unjustified economic embargo.
 
Che wrote, “we executed many people by firing squad without knowing if they were fully guilty.” Proving guilt or innocence is irrelevant to the left, only that it fits their talking points. The end justify the means.
 
Its been more than a decade since ive seen a Che shirt, just parodies.
 
Also why the **** did you guys necro this thread from 2010? Y’all bored or somethin?
 

The patron saint of progressives? Violent Central and South American socialists and communists perhaps, but I have not seen any progressives who believe in democracy here or elsewhere lauding Che Guevara. Claiming he is the patron saint of progressives is about as accurate and generous as saying Mussolini remains the patron saint of patriotic conservatism.
 
Comandante Ernesto "Che" Guevara is still dead, his ideas are still toxic, and need to be buried along with him.
 
Che Guevara enjoyed killing. Here is Che recounting the execution of Eutimio Guerra: “I fired a 32 caliber bullet into the right hemisphere of his brain which came out through his left temple. He moaned for a few moments, then died.”
 
During the debate in the United Nations General Assembly where Guevara represented de Cuban government, this was severely attacked because of the firing squad executions without any judicial process and evidence as required by the rule of law. Guevara, on his own voiced, responded: “Shooting people yes, we have shoot people and will continue to do so until it will be required.”

Video link: YouTube- che guevara"Che Guevara: AnatomÃa de un mito"
 
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He didn’t deceive anyone.
Can his reputation survive the publication of his own words? In December 1953, he wrote to his aunt from San José, Costa Rica, “I have sworn before a picture of our old, much lamented comrade Stalin that I will not rest until I see these capitalist octopuses annihilated.” Another letter to the same aunt was signed with the words "Stalin II. More important was the fact that when Guevara visited the USSR in his capacity as one of the most important leaders of the victorious Cuban revolution in November of 1960, he insisted on depositing a floral tribute at Stalin's tomb. It is important to remember that this was more than four years after Khrushchev's revelations of Stalin's crimes.
 
Maybe because the bibliography is really about the myth.

Not necessarily, but what happens is that the best known biographers of Che Guevara, such as Lee Anderson or Castañeda do a very poor job with respect to the victims, they dedicate barely two lines to them.
 
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Could it be that this is due precisely to the weight of propaganda, to the power of the myth?
Che Guevara didn't believe in trials or due process of any kind, quote: “Judicial evidence is an archaic bourgeois detail. I don’t need proof to execute a man. I only need proof that it’s necessary to execute him. We execute from revolutionary conviction! To establish Socialism rivers of blood must flow!”
 
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An example of this lack of knowledge was the interview with the actor Benicio del Toro, who played Che. When the interviewer asked him about Che’s crimes, he didn’t know what to say.
Che toll to Duke Ortega, head of La Cabaña's tribunals: “What one need to know is if it is necessary to shoot him. Nothing more. You should always give the accused the possibility to do his discharge before executing him. And this means, understand me well, that the accused should always be executed, without mattering which has been his discharge. Make no mistake about this. Our mission doesn’t consist in giving procedural guarantees to anyone, but to make the revolution, and we must begin by the same procedural guarantees.” What a monster he was.”Terror as a revolutionary weapon is an element of Bolshevism.

Yes, that’s what the man who trained them in Mexico says, that they had this plan to achieve absolute power. And, of course, they get all this inheritance from the KGB and its satellite secret services.
 
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